Anonymous wrote:Apparently reading comprehension escapes some of you. Having drugs in your system ≠ being high. You can have drugs in your system and NOT be under the influence.

No one else finds it suspect that the LAPD released the toxicology report, but not the 7 minutes while they waited for backup? C'mon people.

** Editing to add that the toxicology report wasn't released but preliminary drug test was.

Anonymous wrote:Apparently reading comprehension escapes some of you. Having drugs in your system ≠ being high. You can have drugs in your system and NOT be under the influence.

No one else finds it suspect that the LAPD released the toxicology report, but not the 7 minutes while they waited for backup? C'mon people.

C'mon conspiracy theorist, watch the video and tell me the guy was not 100% high...

Apparently reading comprehension escapes some of you. Having drugs in your system ≠ being high. You can have drugs in your system and NOT be under the influence.

No one else finds it suspect that the LAPD released the toxicology report, but not the 7 minutes while they waited for backup? C'mon people.

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Defund. The. Police.

And let folks buy cocaine and marijuana with food stamps. Only fair.

Nope the opposite - invest much more in police training - they have a difficult job and need adequate training and resources to know when and how to deescalate and when to use lethal force.

The allegations of drug use have not been confirmed by science. His family said that woukd be very out of character and had other possible explanations.

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Another senseless death.

Well, sad but he wasn't helping himself... Also, drugs in his system didn't help either.

Defund. The. Police.

And let folks buy cocaine and marijuana with food stamps. Only fair.

Anonymous wrote:I am not bothered by the cocaine/marijuana use. For all I know it could have been a one time thing where he was tying one on while on vacation.... and then made a REALLY bad decision to drive. I am not watching the video. Tazing someone 6 times seems like a hell of a lot when by all descriptions at some point, he settled down. Cops have to stop acting like responding to situations where someone is acting crazy is rare and they don't know what to do.

One time can still kill.

I am not bothered by the cocaine/marijuana use. For all I know it could have been a one time thing where he was tying one on while on vacation.... and then made a REALLY bad decision to drive. I am not watching the video. Tazing someone 6 times seems like a hell of a lot when by all descriptions at some point, he settled down. Cops have to stop acting like responding to situations where someone is acting crazy is rare and they don't know what to do.

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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.

I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.

But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents

he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.

He was not a threat. AT no time were the officers in danger. They spoke with him and he was non-threatening. Police officers lack training to deal with someone in crisis. There is NO reason that man should've died for this.

He was literally walking out into traffic. Did you even watch the video??!?

An unarmed man walking into traffic is threatening? Sounds like he was only a danger to himself.

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Anonymous wrote:The insinuation of this thread is:

- racism.

But, the officers here were all Black or BIPOC. Please explain how these BIPOC / Black officers are racists?

They are acting white.

And this was before Keenan

Mayor And City Council Members Express Concerns After LAPD Releases Footage Of Fatal Shootings
By 
Robert Garrova
Updated Jan 12, 2023 5:47 PM
Published Jan 11, 2023 7:03 PM



https://laist.com/news/criminal-justice/chief-moore-releases-footage-from-two-fatal-lapd-shootings-and-questions-some-officers-actions


A cousin of a prominent Black Lives Matter founder died after being tased by police

January 14, 20236:00 AM ET

A cousin of Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors died after Los Angeles Police repeatedly tased him in the middle of the street last week, according to police body-camera footage and his family's account.

Keenan Anderson, a 31-year-old high school teacher and father, was trying to get help after a traffic collision when he was chased, held down by multiple officers and tased for over 90 seconds as he begged for help.

Body camera footage shows Anderson pleading for help under police restraint
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The officer found Anderson "running in the middle of the street and exhibiting erratic behavior," the account reads.
Cullors, who watched the video with family just hours before its public release, says she recognized a sense of fear on her cousin's face.

"When you get in a car accident, your body is in shock," she said. "I don't know what my cousin was going through, emotionally and mentally. But what I do know is that he got in a car accident. That's scary. And when you get in a car accident, you need help."

Others involved in the collision said Anderson had caused it, Moore said during a news conference Wednesday. Moore also said that Anderson had committed a felony hit-and-run and that another person involved in the collision said Anderson tried to steal a vehicle.
The released footage starts with the responding officer ordering Anderson to get out of the street and up against a wall. Anderson, looking back at the scene of the accident, initially kneels with his hands up, shouting, "I didn't mean to. I'm sorry."

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Anonymous wrote:If the death occurred several hours after he was tasered, isn't it possible that the tasering did not directly cause his death?

Yeah, like cocaine abuse.

The coroners report is not out and that allegation has not been confirmed.

Also he had no prior history of such behavior and was A beloved teacher and family member. There are medical reasons why people sometimes have unexplained bizarre behavior (side effects of meds to treat other illnesses/ hormonal changes/ th it’s/ electrolyte imbalance etc. there are other possible explanations for his irregular behavior apart from abusing drugs.

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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.

I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.

But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents

he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.

He was not a threat. AT no time were the officers in danger. They spoke with him and he was non-threatening. Police officers lack training to deal with someone in crisis. There is NO reason that man should've died for this.

He was literally walking out into traffic. Did you even watch the video??!?

An unarmed man walking into traffic is threatening? Sounds like he was only a danger to himself.

So you are saying they should have let him walk out into traffic?

They should have stopped traffic so he could safely wander in the road.

Says the person who clearly doesn't work with the mentally ill and drug addicts on a daily basis. Their behavior can be wildly erratic. The poor guy would have been hit by a car before officers could safely enter traffic and stop it without getting themselves killed.

The police acted appropriately and with tremendous patience. They not at fault here. None whatsoever.

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Six armed officers repeatedly tasering an unarmed man who had stopped resisting arrest was clearly way too much force.

Anonymous wrote:Very sad. Double the number of white people get killed by cops every year. I realize that does not mean racism was not involved in incidents, but that the violence cops perpetrate is not just against black people.

Link to credible source ?

Per capita, POC much more likely to die by hands of police and to face harsher prison sentences, including death row.

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Anonymous wrote:This is awful and hard to watch. My heart breaks for that poor man who was terrified that he was going to die at the hands of the police and actually did. Why did they cuff him when it was just a car accident? And he flagged them down? I don't understand any of this. That poor man.

I am going to guess his very erratic behavior, which the officer initially thought might be DUI-related but it turns out was more likely the result of the cocaine and marijuana shown to be in his system. I tend to judge against the police very quickly on these things and wonder why they had to tase him what seemed like 4 times, but I guess the drugs could explain that?

This video from the LAPD and timeline is interesting.

I do feel awful for him, his family and his students.

But he was unarmed and not a threat. There were also 4-5 armed cops vs. 1 unarmed man. He clearly needed help. I don't understand why he had to be tased. It makes no sense in most civilized countries that don't regularly kill people for traffic incidents

he may not have had a gun but a car can be a deadly weapon when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I tho k we can see that from the accident he caused. He’s an adult and should have known better. Did he deserve to die? No. But his decisions got him here.

He was not a threat. AT no time were the officers in danger. They spoke with him and he was non-threatening. Police officers lack training to deal with someone in crisis. There is NO reason that man should've died for this.

He was literally walking out into traffic. Did you even watch the video??!?

An unarmed man walking into traffic is threatening? Sounds like he was only a danger to himself.

So you are saying they should have let him walk out into traffic?

They should have stopped traffic so he could safely wander in the road.

Says the person who clearly doesn't work with the mentally ill and drug addicts on a daily basis. Their behavior can be wildly erratic. The poor guy would have been hit by a car before officers could safely enter traffic and stop it without getting themselves killed.

It's why we need to hospitalize long-term people with these kinds of mental health issues.

Even if we did hospitalize people with mental illness, he would never have been on anyone’s radar screen. He was a beloved teacher and it doesn’t seem like before this anyone had concerns.