Anonymous
01/12/2023 08:52
Subject: interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good discussion going on the local sub reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MontgomeryCountyMD/comments/102jg8a/parents_of_mcps_students_do_you_guys_have_a/
MCPS sound like an absolute disaster. Zero accountability. Zero standards. Rapid decline of quality. How long until people with money stop moving to this county to flee all of the progressivism ruining the schools and county? The only reason property values maintained value in MoCo was always because of the schools. The discussion going on now with messages from insiders is truly shocking. MoCo looks like it is in rapid decline and once the schools go, what reason will there be to stay?
So completely and thoroughly f'ed up. MCPS's been in rapid decline for many years. But if you say anything, then you are a racist. God help us.
LOL, I love these crocodile tears. There is ABSOLUTELY NO DECLINE. What has changed are the demographics of the county. You may have noticed. This means some things are different, but you can get a better education today than in the past.
It's not demographics. Its the curriculum, teaching style and no homework... all things we had prior to the decline.
So you think a poorer, browner system will produce like a richer white one if only they had a better curriculum? Show us one anywhere in the world.
Anonymous
01/12/2023 08:17
Subject: interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand how anyone could get a minimum of 50% for turning in zero HW.
Because it makes no sense. It's a ridiculous policy. But, anyone who is paying attention knows that MCPS loves to implement poorly thought out initiatives in the name of 'equity'.
You forgot to also say "woke".
dp.. yes, it is part of the "woke" culture, and it's stupid. It's not helping those students. Misguided progressive liberals.
Anonymous
01/11/2023 23:07
Subject: interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand how anyone could get a minimum of 50% for turning in zero HW.
Because it makes no sense. It's a ridiculous policy. But, anyone who is paying attention knows that MCPS loves to implement poorly thought out initiatives in the name of 'equity'.
You forgot to also say "woke".
Anonymous
01/11/2023 22:43
Subject: interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools
Anonymous wrote:At this point in time this tread is so dumb.
What do you all think is going to happen in VA with Youngkin and school choice?
People will be flocking to MCPS by 2024.
Buckle up people Republicans are about to ruin schools all over the country and pad their pockets for school choice. Youngkin already has his plan set in motion.
MCPS yeah perfectly good school system the problem is the parents. Grow up.
You’ve lived in Moco too long. Your schools are suboptimal and it has nothing to do with politics in VA. They have schools with children who rank at the top of NAEP. Maryland is struggling to catch up to Florida (in your argument with a similarly minded governor to Youngkin). Don’t let your leaders off the hook Union man because they are in your party, and say they agree with you…
Anonymous
01/11/2023 22:39
Subject: Re:interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"Nope. We read the Hopkins audit and talked with families with kids just a few years older than ours. 90% of them were deeply critical of MCPS."
What is the Hopkins audit?
They evaluated Curriculum 2.0 in 2018:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/instructionalprograms/homepage/ExecutiveSummaryMCPS.pdf
Thank you for posting this - I feel like Cassandra when I post about MCPS. We moved for the schools and left because of the schools. This report is truth. Smith was a nightmare but I’m glad he spent 500,000 for political cover to dump a curriculum so worthless and profit-driven. Seriously, the only thing he did of value - besides retiring.
Anonymous
01/11/2023 22:16
Subject: Re:interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools
Anonymous wrote:"Nope. We read the Hopkins audit and talked with families with kids just a few years older than ours. 90% of them were deeply critical of MCPS."
What is the Hopkins audit?
They evaluated Curriculum 2.0 in 2018:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/instructionalprograms/homepage/ExecutiveSummaryMCPS.pdf
Anonymous
01/11/2023 21:07
Subject: Re:interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools
"Nope. We read the Hopkins audit and talked with families with kids just a few years older than ours. 90% of them were deeply critical of MCPS."
What is the Hopkins audit?
What is the Hopkins audit?
Anonymous
01/11/2023 20:55
Subject: interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:we moved to bethesda for the schools (in advance of kids). Then we had a kid and realized the decline and chose the private/independent route.
how did you "realize the decline?"
They read DCUM naturally.
Nope. We read the Hopkins audit and talked with families with kids just a few years older than ours. 90% of them were deeply critical of MCPS.
What are they NOT deeply critical of, though?
Anonymous
01/11/2023 20:32
Subject: Re:interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools
"I went to MCPS, we rarely had field trips and other things. And, if anything more kids need to be identified, not less as SN and given support. "
100%, same here. Though there were a ton of field trips in 4th grade learning about Maryland history. And, my favorite, the metro! Totally the teacher empowered to be creative. She would be a CEO today.
100%, same here. Though there were a ton of field trips in 4th grade learning about Maryland history. And, my favorite, the metro! Totally the teacher empowered to be creative. She would be a CEO today.
Anonymous
01/11/2023 20:29
Subject: interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good discussion going on the local sub reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MontgomeryCountyMD/comments/102jg8a/parents_of_mcps_students_do_you_guys_have_a/
MCPS sound like an absolute disaster. Zero accountability. Zero standards. Rapid decline of quality. How long until people with money stop moving to this county to flee all of the progressivism ruining the schools and county? The only reason property values maintained value in MoCo was always because of the schools. The discussion going on now with messages from insiders is truly shocking. MoCo looks like it is in rapid decline and once the schools go, what reason will there be to stay?
So completely and thoroughly f'ed up. MCPS's been in rapid decline for many years. But if you say anything, then you are a racist. God help us.
LOL, I love these crocodile tears. There is ABSOLUTELY NO DECLINE. What has changed are the demographics of the county. You may have noticed. This means some things are different, but you can get a better education today than in the past.
It's not demographics. It’s the curriculum, teaching style and no homework... all things we had prior to the decline.
I think it is both. Changing demographics, increased identification of special needs, and unfunded federal mandates that trickled down to individual school budgets created a trifecta of pain for MCPS that has led to decreased enrichment opportunities (tighter sports budgets, fewer field trips, fewer learning materials--like for science labs just to note a few).
Interesting that there is no MCPS administration responsibility. Just all extrinsic factors. Someone else’s fault.
Anonymous
01/11/2023 20:26
Subject: interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:we moved to bethesda for the schools (in advance of kids). Then we had a kid and realized the decline and chose the private/independent route.
how did you "realize the decline?"
They read DCUM naturally.
Nope. We read the Hopkins audit and talked with families with kids just a few years older than ours. 90% of them were deeply critical of MCPS.
Anonymous
01/11/2023 20:10
Subject: interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good discussion going on the local sub reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MontgomeryCountyMD/comments/102jg8a/parents_of_mcps_students_do_you_guys_have_a/
MCPS sound like an absolute disaster. Zero accountability. Zero standards. Rapid decline of quality. How long until people with money stop moving to this county to flee all of the progressivism ruining the schools and county? The only reason property values maintained value in MoCo was always because of the schools. The discussion going on now with messages from insiders is truly shocking. MoCo looks like it is in rapid decline and once the schools go, what reason will there be to stay?
So completely and thoroughly f'ed up. MCPS's been in rapid decline for many years. But if you say anything, then you are a racist. God help us.
LOL, I love these crocodile tears. There is ABSOLUTELY NO DECLINE. What has changed are the demographics of the county. You may have noticed. This means some things are different, but you can get a better education today than in the past.
It's not demographics. Its the curriculum, teaching style and no homework... all things we had prior to the decline.
I think it is both. Changing demographics, increased identification of special needs, and unfunded federal mandates that trickled down to individual school budgets created a trifecta of pain for MCPS that has led to decreased enrichment opportunities (tighter sports budgets, fewer field trips, fewer learning materials--like for science labs just to note a few).
I went to MCPS, we rarely had field trips and other things. And, if anything more kids need to be identified, not less as SN and given support.
Anonymous
01/11/2023 20:06
Subject: Re:interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools
The enrichment opportunities spotlighted today seem somewhat performative and somewhat meaningless. It's something ppl seem to really latch on to, though, trying to identify and get every little thing, without realizing it's kind of a big scam. Teachers could provide all this without calling it "enrichment" if they had agency, were paid well, etc.
Anonymous
01/11/2023 17:50
Subject: interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good discussion going on the local sub reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MontgomeryCountyMD/comments/102jg8a/parents_of_mcps_students_do_you_guys_have_a/
MCPS sound like an absolute disaster. Zero accountability. Zero standards. Rapid decline of quality. How long until people with money stop moving to this county to flee all of the progressivism ruining the schools and county? The only reason property values maintained value in MoCo was always because of the schools. The discussion going on now with messages from insiders is truly shocking. MoCo looks like it is in rapid decline and once the schools go, what reason will there be to stay?
So completely and thoroughly f'ed up. MCPS's been in rapid decline for many years. But if you say anything, then you are a racist. God help us.
LOL, I love these crocodile tears. There is ABSOLUTELY NO DECLINE. What has changed are the demographics of the county. You may have noticed. This means some things are different, but you can get a better education today than in the past.
It's not demographics. Its the curriculum, teaching style and no homework... all things we had prior to the decline.
I think it is both. Changing demographics, increased identification of special needs, and unfunded federal mandates that trickled down to individual school budgets created a trifecta of pain for MCPS that has led to decreased enrichment opportunities (tighter sports budgets, fewer field trips, fewer learning materials--like for science labs just to note a few).
Anonymous
01/11/2023 17:24
Subject: interesting discussion regarding abysmal decline of MoCo schools
Yes, class sizes in areas that don't mandate low class sizes, lack of any agency for many teachers, and YES, pay. Babysitting wages with super high COL.
Decades ago the wages might not have mattered as much. Many folx went into teaching who would be CEOs etc. etc. now, mostly women. Now, you have to be masochistic, without other options, independently wealthy, or young with no family, to live on the salary in Moco.
Decades ago the wages might not have mattered as much. Many folx went into teaching who would be CEOs etc. etc. now, mostly women. Now, you have to be masochistic, without other options, independently wealthy, or young with no family, to live on the salary in Moco.