Anonymous
Post 11/25/2022 16:42     Subject: Re:USA only country in the world where life does not come to a halt when it's soccer team plays in WC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When I saw the result today was a nil nil draw, after a 1-1 draw, I immediately thought of this thread and chuckled. Why don’t Americans love this boring-ass game? Why? I just can’t figure it out! 🧐


+1

Many years ago, the NFL changed rules to increase scoring after doing a study that revealed viewer interest increased with increased scoring.


Yes I thought about that too when reading this thread earlier in the week. American football has changed a lot in order to make the game more dynamic snd fun to watch. It was originally illegal to throw the ball and it was more akin to rugby. But they discovered that a game that incorporated passing, running, and kicking the ball, that enables teams to score several different ways, was more engaging for fans. The games complexity can sometimes be a barrier to fandom for newbies, but the game actually goes to extensive efforts to make it as transparent as possible — the on field cumbersome snd markings, the clear order of downs, and the fact that any point you can look at the screen or scoreboard and know who has possession, what down they are on, and how many yards they need to first down. It makes for a quick learning curve.

MLB and NBA have also made rules changes or other adjustments to ensure competition, scoring, fairness, etc. Sometimes this tinkering backfires, as with play review which has made NFL and MLB tedious and too long. But changes like allowing passing or changing the height of the pitching mound or addressing defensive shifts are done with the entertainment quality in mind.

Soccer has stayed basically the same (except, maddeningly, for the stupid scoring reviews!) forever. Scoring is rare and hard, flopping common, there are minimal natural breaks in play for eating, going to the bathroom, or catching up with your seat mate. Soccer does not reward casual fans. That limits its appeal, at least in the US. And American football, basketball, and baseball have growing fandoms outside the US.


Putting a player in the penalty box has increased scoring in the NHL (National Hockey League). Maybe soccer should consider adding a penalty box & enforcers just like ice hockey in the US.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2022 16:35     Subject: Re:USA only country in the world where life does not come to a halt when it's soccer team plays in WC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When I saw the result today was a nil nil draw, after a 1-1 draw, I immediately thought of this thread and chuckled. Why don’t Americans love this boring-ass game? Why? I just can’t figure it out! 🧐


+1

Many years ago, the NFL changed rules to increase scoring after doing a study that revealed viewer interest increased with increased scoring.


Yes I thought about that too when reading this thread earlier in the week. American football has changed a lot in order to make the game more dynamic snd fun to watch. It was originally illegal to throw the ball and it was more akin to rugby. But they discovered that a game that incorporated passing, running, and kicking the ball, that enables teams to score several different ways, was more engaging for fans. The games complexity can sometimes be a barrier to fandom for newbies, but the game actually goes to extensive efforts to make it as transparent as possible — the on field cumbersome snd markings, the clear order of downs, and the fact that any point you can look at the screen or scoreboard and know who has possession, what down they are on, and how many yards they need to first down. It makes for a quick learning curve.

MLB and NBA have also made rules changes or other adjustments to ensure competition, scoring, fairness, etc. Sometimes this tinkering backfires, as with play review which has made NFL and MLB tedious and too long. But changes like allowing passing or changing the height of the pitching mound or addressing defensive shifts are done with the entertainment quality in mind.

Soccer has stayed basically the same (except, maddeningly, for the stupid scoring reviews!) forever. Scoring is rare and hard, flopping common, there are minimal natural breaks in play for eating, going to the bathroom, or catching up with your seat mate. Soccer does not reward casual fans. That limits its appeal, at least in the US. And American football, basketball, and baseball have growing fandoms outside the US.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2022 16:18     Subject: Re:USA only country in the world where life does not come to a halt when it's soccer team plays in WC
Anonymous wrote:When I saw the result today was a nil nil draw, after a 1-1 draw, I immediately thought of this thread and chuckled. Why don’t Americans love this boring-ass game? Why? I just can’t figure it out! 🧐


+1

Many years ago, the NFL changed rules to increase scoring after doing a study that revealed viewer interest increased with increased scoring.
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2022 16:15     Subject: Re:USA only country in the world where life does not come to a halt when it's soccer team plays in WC
When I saw the result today was a nil nil draw, after a 1-1 draw, I immediately thought of this thread and chuckled. Why don’t Americans love this boring-ass game? Why? I just can’t figure it out! 🧐
Anonymous
Post 11/25/2022 16:06     Subject: USA only country in the world where life does not come to a halt when it's soccer team plays in WC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel like the African national teams always play the most entertaining soccer. Portugal/Ghana in the group round is probably going to be a good game.

US-England will play to a tedious 0-0 tie, book it.


Unironically, that would be amazing for the US


Quoting you because I did, in fact, predict a 0-0 tie for todays match LOL.

It was a good game though, not tedious after the US got it together after the first 20 minutes or so which was a slow start for them.
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2022 16:45     Subject: USA only country in the world where life does not come to a halt when it's soccer team plays in WC
The media hasn't really accurately represented the issues in Qatar at all.

This report is a more realistic discussion about human rights in Qatar.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2022/03/dialogue-qatar-experts-human-rights-committee-commend-legislative-revision-efforts-and

There are human rights issues everywhere. In Qatar everyone is housed and has access to free healthcare. Not all countries see housing or healthcare as a human right.
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2022 16:32     Subject: USA only country in the world where life does not come to a halt when it's soccer team plays in WC
Anonymous wrote:This whole argument is ridiculous. That most other countries in the world watch it does not make them superior. Neither does the US relative lack of interest make it superior. I either do or do not watch it, and that’s the best way.

The one point I will agree with is that US child travel soccer is ridiculous and it’s about separating parents from their money,



You’re right about travel teams but that’s often the only way the kids who like soccer can actually learn to play and compete with other kids who like to play. Rec soccer doesn’t even resemble soccer most of the time and many schools don’t have soccer teams.
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2022 16:27     Subject: USA only country in the world where life does not come to a halt when it's soccer team plays in WC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm disappointed that the USA team even went, they should have boycotted due to the horrible slave labor like work conditions and women rights in Qatar.



Ahhh the double standards from western moralists. Maybe the world should boycott any international sporting events held by the USA for I dunno, all of the deaths from guns that are a violation of human rights, US interference in the Middle East causing over a million deaths, US interference in Indonesia that led to a million deaths, US bombs in Laos that kill children to this day.....the list will go on.

Heck, Europe shouldn't be off the hook either. Belgium has never apologized for killing a million in Africa and cutting off the hands of many Africans. Spain, France, Portugal, England,.....they're all mass oppressors who killed millions of people. The hypocrisy is really kinda astounding. Westerners lecture on lbgtq rights while they simultaneously have killed millions in the 20th century.


There isn't much the average citizen can do about the atrocities you list, aside from voting for candidates who do not support it. One thing I can do though is not watch or support a stupid sporting event that is taking place in stadiums built by slaves.



Vastly more people in the US die from guns every year than the number of slaves harmed that built the stadium in Qatar. The US did nothing after what, hundreds of deaths in Las Vegas and a classroom full of 8 years olds was shot up at Sandy Hook? 1000+ minorities have been murdered up in Baltimore in only 3 years. Which country has worse human rights violations? Qatar because of their stadium or the US where 10,000+ murders per year with guns. A bigger human rights violation is the fact that US children cannot go to school without being gunned down.


You should stick to talking about soccer. There is a difference between governments violating human rights and citizens of a country committing crimes against each other.
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2022 16:18     Subject: USA only country in the world where life does not come to a halt when it's soccer team plays in WC
Pretty sure it’s not the only country. I doubt things stop in Benin or New Guinea.
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2022 15:47     Subject: Re:USA only country in the world where life does not come to a halt when it's soccer team plays in WC
How exciting for Ronaldo to score in five World Cups.
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2022 10:41     Subject: Re:USA only country in the world where life does not come to a halt when it's soccer team plays in WC
What an upset Japan over Germany 2-1!
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2022 10:23     Subject: USA only country in the world where life does not come to a halt when it's soccer team plays in WC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm disappointed that the USA team even went, they should have boycotted due to the horrible slave labor like work conditions and women rights in Qatar.



Ahhh the double standards from western moralists. Maybe the world should boycott any international sporting events held by the USA for I dunno, all of the deaths from guns that are a violation of human rights, US interference in the Middle East causing over a million deaths, US interference in Indonesia that led to a million deaths, US bombs in Laos that kill children to this day.....the list will go on.

Heck, Europe shouldn't be off the hook either. Belgium has never apologized for killing a million in Africa and cutting off the hands of many Africans. Spain, France, Portugal, England,.....they're all mass oppressors who killed millions of people. The hypocrisy is really kinda astounding. Westerners lecture on lbgtq rights while they simultaneously have killed millions in the 20th century.


There isn't much the average citizen can do about the atrocities you list, aside from voting for candidates who do not support it. One thing I can do though is not watch or support a stupid sporting event that is taking place in stadiums built by slaves.



Vastly more people in the US die from guns every year than the number of slaves harmed that built the stadium in Qatar. The US did nothing after what, hundreds of deaths in Las Vegas and a classroom full of 8 years olds was shot up at Sandy Hook? 1000+ minorities have been murdered up in Baltimore in only 3 years. Which country has worse human rights violations? Qatar because of their stadium or the US where 10,000+ murders per year with guns. A bigger human rights violation is the fact that US children cannot go to school without being gunned down.


When did this happen?
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2022 10:06     Subject: USA only country in the world where life does not come to a halt when it's soccer team plays in WC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm disappointed that the USA team even went, they should have boycotted due to the horrible slave labor like work conditions and women rights in Qatar.



Ahhh the double standards from western moralists. Maybe the world should boycott any international sporting events held by the USA for I dunno, all of the deaths from guns that are a violation of human rights, US interference in the Middle East causing over a million deaths, US interference in Indonesia that led to a million deaths, US bombs in Laos that kill children to this day.....the list will go on.

Heck, Europe shouldn't be off the hook either. Belgium has never apologized for killing a million in Africa and cutting off the hands of many Africans. Spain, France, Portugal, England,.....they're all mass oppressors who killed millions of people. The hypocrisy is really kinda astounding. Westerners lecture on lbgtq rights while they simultaneously have killed millions in the 20th century.


There isn't much the average citizen can do about the atrocities you list, aside from voting for candidates who do not support it. One thing I can do though is not watch or support a stupid sporting event that is taking place in stadiums built by slaves.



Vastly more people in the US die from guns every year than the number of slaves harmed that built the stadium in Qatar. The US did nothing after what, hundreds of deaths in Las Vegas and a classroom full of 8 years olds was shot up at Sandy Hook? 1000+ minorities have been murdered up in Baltimore in only 3 years. Which country has worse human rights violations? Qatar because of their stadium or the US where 10,000+ murders per year with guns. A bigger human rights violation is the fact that US children cannot go to school without being gunned down.
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2022 09:23     Subject: USA only country in the world where life does not come to a halt when it's soccer team plays in WC
This Kor/URU match is fantastic. So hard fought. Such a contrast to the GER/JPN game.
Anonymous
Post 11/24/2022 09:07     Subject: USA only country in the world where life does not come to a halt when it's soccer team plays in WC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm disappointed that the USA team even went, they should have boycotted due to the horrible slave labor like work conditions and women rights in Qatar.



Ahhh the double standards from western moralists. Maybe the world should boycott any international sporting events held by the USA for I dunno, all of the deaths from guns that are a violation of human rights, US interference in the Middle East causing over a million deaths, US interference in Indonesia that led to a million deaths, US bombs in Laos that kill children to this day.....the list will go on.

Heck, Europe shouldn't be off the hook either. Belgium has never apologized for killing a million in Africa and cutting off the hands of many Africans. Spain, France, Portugal, England,.....they're all mass oppressors who killed millions of people. The hypocrisy is really kinda astounding. Westerners lecture on lbgtq rights while they simultaneously have killed millions in the 20th century.


There isn't much the average citizen can do about the atrocities you list, aside from voting for candidates who do not support it. One thing I can do though is not watch or support a stupid sporting event that is taking place in stadiums built by slaves.