Anonymous
Post 10/27/2022 16:06     Subject: Yay! Another religious holiday!

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Anonymous wrote:We've had 3 (4?) religious holidays so far this year... and endless more to come.

Liberals fought hard to remove any entanglement between public school and Christian religion, now these hypocrites can't add enough religious holidays to the schedule.

Wish my kids were in school and learning. Wish the School Board even cared about that.


+1. I don't know a single family in my neighborhood that is happy about the calendar. In fact, I know zero parents who appreciate this - my fellow liberals included.
We rightfully expect our kids to be in school. Employers don't give us 9 4 day work weeks in the fall so it is unreasonable to expect that families with young kids can sustain this.

I cannot wait to oust this school board. They have zero interest in bettering the education of our children and spend 100% of their time in performance liberalism.


+2 - Perfectly said! I can't wait to oust this school board either, and give them the finger while they exit the door.


So dumb. This thread is a perfect encapsulation of the crap that the SB has to deal with. There is absolutely no agreement and everyone thinks that they are the smartest in the room.

So here’s my two cents - the current calendar is pretty much as good as it gets and they should lock it in long-term. It is an elegant way to both provide necessary teacher workdays while giving a nod to the diversity of the families that attend FCPS. It provides a traditional winter and spring break while no making the summer break excessively long.

I don’t for a second believe that my kid is being “harmed” by several 4 day weeks. That’s nutty.


The multitude of 4 day school weeks leans wealthy, upper class, which this district caters to. It assumes that parents will be home with kids, take off work and/or pay for back up childcare (not everyone has a HS Sr.). If parents have to take off those days, that's 8 days of PTO and/or vacation. Not all of us are feds. DH and I are not and we don't get fed days off. 8 days is significant. And to boot, my kid also had to take a sick day today so that was another day off for one of us. We know that sick days happen and are prepared for them. But the litany of religious observances backed by teacher workdays is just not in tune with the working world.

The Board assumes that parents don't (need to) work. In an area which is overwhelmingly dual income households, that assumption is incredibly misplaced, and it is a slap in the face to the vast majority of us who do work when the board closes school for each and every minority holiday. It is just not sustainable, no matter how many performance points you think you get.


Kids can stay home alone from 6th grade up. They don't need to be a senior in HS. DH and I work full time and are not feds and we have older kids and appreciate the days off for them. You can't please everyone. 6th-12th graders are just as important as K - 5th. The older kids need the reprieve. You will be there one day and see, if your kid is college bound.


+1 My junior needs every break she can get.

There are also more 6-12th grade students than there are K-5th grade students. If you're going to lean one way, majority should rule. I don't think parents realize how stressful HS is for these kids and their mental health, especially AP or IB classes. They need the breaks and they can't just lighten their schedule or it hurts their college chances. Not just for admittance but merit money. Despite what people think, everyone in FCPS is not rich. Many students are chasing merit because their parents make too much for financial aid but not enough to afford so many of these schools. So the students have to take a lot of tough classes.


If your kids are incapable of going to school 5 days a week and need eight 4-day school weeks in a period of 2.5 months, I would take a look at whether or not they can actually handle college.


Not PP but this makes no sense. College schedules are chosen by students (sometimes you do get stuck with a crap class time). They take 15 credit hours a semester. They don't even have classes every day, on most days. And they certainly do not have class for 6 hours and 45 mins a day. Have YOU even been to college?


Yes, I went to HS, college and law school when academics used to be difficult. Per the moms on DCUM, we cannot even expect our children to go to school 5 days a week because it is too stressful for them. Can't wait to see how prepared these kids are for the working world. I'm sure they'll accomplish loads. Will they need a mid-work day nap, too? No wonder 60% of STEM grad students in this country are foreign born. US kids cannot handle anything remotely challenging - going to school FT for one.



It doesn't sound like you have been to college or law school if you cannot understand how much more free time it offers than HS. Academics are difficult. Even more so than when you went. No one said we can't expect kids to go 5 days a week. Some of us are saying the breaks are welcome. Kids will do what needs to be done. If you asked for 7 days, they'd do it, but the point was as a parent of HS kids, the breaks are appreciated for my already stressed-out teen. I have young adults in the workforce who had breaks in FCPS and somehow have graduated college just fine and are accomplishing "loads." One is in STEM, the other in business school and both are doing just fine. I agree with whoever wrote the above about needed breaks for students and those who agree. If you don't like it, leave. Many of us think it's a welcome reprieve.


+1,000


I had far less free time in engineering school than high school. There were courses where i literally lived in a lab for weeks on end.


Not everyone is studying to be an engineer . . . so there's that.
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2022 13:21     Subject: Yay! Another religious holiday!

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Anonymous wrote:We've had 3 (4?) religious holidays so far this year... and endless more to come.

Liberals fought hard to remove any entanglement between public school and Christian religion, now these hypocrites can't add enough religious holidays to the schedule.

Wish my kids were in school and learning. Wish the School Board even cared about that.


+1. I don't know a single family in my neighborhood that is happy about the calendar. In fact, I know zero parents who appreciate this - my fellow liberals included.
We rightfully expect our kids to be in school. Employers don't give us 9 4 day work weeks in the fall so it is unreasonable to expect that families with young kids can sustain this.

I cannot wait to oust this school board. They have zero interest in bettering the education of our children and spend 100% of their time in performance liberalism.


+2 - Perfectly said! I can't wait to oust this school board either, and give them the finger while they exit the door.


So dumb. This thread is a perfect encapsulation of the crap that the SB has to deal with. There is absolutely no agreement and everyone thinks that they are the smartest in the room.

So here’s my two cents - the current calendar is pretty much as good as it gets and they should lock it in long-term. It is an elegant way to both provide necessary teacher workdays while giving a nod to the diversity of the families that attend FCPS. It provides a traditional winter and spring break while no making the summer break excessively long.

I don’t for a second believe that my kid is being “harmed” by several 4 day weeks. That’s nutty.


The multitude of 4 day school weeks leans wealthy, upper class, which this district caters to. It assumes that parents will be home with kids, take off work and/or pay for back up childcare (not everyone has a HS Sr.). If parents have to take off those days, that's 8 days of PTO and/or vacation. Not all of us are feds. DH and I are not and we don't get fed days off. 8 days is significant. And to boot, my kid also had to take a sick day today so that was another day off for one of us. We know that sick days happen and are prepared for them. But the litany of religious observances backed by teacher workdays is just not in tune with the working world.

The Board assumes that parents don't (need to) work. In an area which is overwhelmingly dual income households, that assumption is incredibly misplaced, and it is a slap in the face to the vast majority of us who do work when the board closes school for each and every minority holiday. It is just not sustainable, no matter how many performance points you think you get.


Kids can stay home alone from 6th grade up. They don't need to be a senior in HS. DH and I work full time and are not feds and we have older kids and appreciate the days off for them. You can't please everyone. 6th-12th graders are just as important as K - 5th. The older kids need the reprieve. You will be there one day and see, if your kid is college bound.


+1 My junior needs every break she can get.

There are also more 6-12th grade students than there are K-5th grade students. If you're going to lean one way, majority should rule. I don't think parents realize how stressful HS is for these kids and their mental health, especially AP or IB classes. They need the breaks and they can't just lighten their schedule or it hurts their college chances. Not just for admittance but merit money. Despite what people think, everyone in FCPS is not rich. Many students are chasing merit because their parents make too much for financial aid but not enough to afford so many of these schools. So the students have to take a lot of tough classes.


If your kids are incapable of going to school 5 days a week and need eight 4-day school weeks in a period of 2.5 months, I would take a look at whether or not they can actually handle college.


Not PP but this makes no sense. College schedules are chosen by students (sometimes you do get stuck with a crap class time). They take 15 credit hours a semester. They don't even have classes every day, on most days. And they certainly do not have class for 6 hours and 45 mins a day. Have YOU even been to college?


Yes, I went to HS, college and law school when academics used to be difficult. Per the moms on DCUM, we cannot even expect our children to go to school 5 days a week because it is too stressful for them. Can't wait to see how prepared these kids are for the working world. I'm sure they'll accomplish loads. Will they need a mid-work day nap, too? No wonder 60% of STEM grad students in this country are foreign born. US kids cannot handle anything remotely challenging - going to school FT for one.



It doesn't sound like you have been to college or law school if you cannot understand how much more free time it offers than HS. Academics are difficult. Even more so than when you went. No one said we can't expect kids to go 5 days a week. Some of us are saying the breaks are welcome. Kids will do what needs to be done. If you asked for 7 days, they'd do it, but the point was as a parent of HS kids, the breaks are appreciated for my already stressed-out teen. I have young adults in the workforce who had breaks in FCPS and somehow have graduated college just fine and are accomplishing "loads." One is in STEM, the other in business school and both are doing just fine. I agree with whoever wrote the above about needed breaks for students and those who agree. If you don't like it, leave. Many of us think it's a welcome reprieve.


+1,000


I had far less free time in engineering school than high school. There were courses where i literally lived in a lab for weeks on end.
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2022 13:19     Subject: Re:Yay! Another religious holiday!

And as usual, this thread becomes a pissing contest as to whose kid is more stressed.
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2022 13:13     Subject: Yay! Another religious holiday!

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Anonymous wrote:Kids do NOT need the breaks. School is already so easy. Academics are at all time low. It's pathetic that parents think their kids can't handle 5 days/week of school.


Speak for yourself. My kid is doing just fine. And I absolutely think they need breaks. You point to academics only but the stress on these kids is at an all time high and that is due to many reasons discussed ad nauseum on here. They need a break and can still have consistency w/o their a---es in a seat 5 days/week. College, grad school . . . they won't be in class 5 days/ week. By HS, they for sure do not need to be 5 days a week all day.


School (FCPS) is not stressful. If your kids are stressed, it's because of something else.


Your kid must go to Mount Vernon or something.


+1


+2. Varsity athlete, 2 Clubs, all honors, 1 AP (in lower grade HS). HW every night plus practice. Kid needs a break. I'm fine with some days off and a longer winter break. But would prefer no explicit recognition (days off) for religious holidays. Religion does not belong in public schools, Christian, Jewish, Muslim or anything else. Re: winter break and Christmas, you can dispense with that if you want, we won't be in school over the holidays and most people want. So your school days won't see much new material anyway. Have at it . . .
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2022 09:36     Subject: Yay! Another religious holiday!

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Anonymous wrote:Kids do NOT need the breaks. School is already so easy. Academics are at all time low. It's pathetic that parents think their kids can't handle 5 days/week of school.


Speak for yourself. My kid is doing just fine. And I absolutely think they need breaks. You point to academics only but the stress on these kids is at an all time high and that is due to many reasons discussed ad nauseum on here. They need a break and can still have consistency w/o their a---es in a seat 5 days/week. College, grad school . . . they won't be in class 5 days/ week. By HS, they for sure do not need to be 5 days a week all day.


School (FCPS) is not stressful. If your kids are stressed, it's because of something else.


Maybe you go to a crappy school or your kid has crappy teachers or a weak schedule. My junior has 5 AP courses - AP Lang, AP Calc BC, AP Physics C, AP US history, and AP French plus some other random classes. He plays 2 Varsity sports and volunteers on weekends. He's stressed. He needs any break he can get to just study or get ahead in reading assignments. It's not like he spends it napping.


My guess is their kid has a very weak schedule.
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2022 09:35     Subject: Yay! Another religious holiday!

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Anonymous wrote:We've had 3 (4?) religious holidays so far this year... and endless more to come.

Liberals fought hard to remove any entanglement between public school and Christian religion, now these hypocrites can't add enough religious holidays to the schedule.

Wish my kids were in school and learning. Wish the School Board even cared about that.


+1. I don't know a single family in my neighborhood that is happy about the calendar. In fact, I know zero parents who appreciate this - my fellow liberals included.
We rightfully expect our kids to be in school. Employers don't give us 9 4 day work weeks in the fall so it is unreasonable to expect that families with young kids can sustain this.

I cannot wait to oust this school board. They have zero interest in bettering the education of our children and spend 100% of their time in performance liberalism.


+2 - Perfectly said! I can't wait to oust this school board either, and give them the finger while they exit the door.


So dumb. This thread is a perfect encapsulation of the crap that the SB has to deal with. There is absolutely no agreement and everyone thinks that they are the smartest in the room.

So here’s my two cents - the current calendar is pretty much as good as it gets and they should lock it in long-term. It is an elegant way to both provide necessary teacher workdays while giving a nod to the diversity of the families that attend FCPS. It provides a traditional winter and spring break while no making the summer break excessively long.

I don’t for a second believe that my kid is being “harmed” by several 4 day weeks. That’s nutty.


The multitude of 4 day school weeks leans wealthy, upper class, which this district caters to. It assumes that parents will be home with kids, take off work and/or pay for back up childcare (not everyone has a HS Sr.). If parents have to take off those days, that's 8 days of PTO and/or vacation. Not all of us are feds. DH and I are not and we don't get fed days off. 8 days is significant. And to boot, my kid also had to take a sick day today so that was another day off for one of us. We know that sick days happen and are prepared for them. But the litany of religious observances backed by teacher workdays is just not in tune with the working world.

The Board assumes that parents don't (need to) work. In an area which is overwhelmingly dual income households, that assumption is incredibly misplaced, and it is a slap in the face to the vast majority of us who do work when the board closes school for each and every minority holiday. It is just not sustainable, no matter how many performance points you think you get.


Kids can stay home alone from 6th grade up. They don't need to be a senior in HS. DH and I work full time and are not feds and we have older kids and appreciate the days off for them. You can't please everyone. 6th-12th graders are just as important as K - 5th. The older kids need the reprieve. You will be there one day and see, if your kid is college bound.


+1 My junior needs every break she can get.

There are also more 6-12th grade students than there are K-5th grade students. If you're going to lean one way, majority should rule. I don't think parents realize how stressful HS is for these kids and their mental health, especially AP or IB classes. They need the breaks and they can't just lighten their schedule or it hurts their college chances. Not just for admittance but merit money. Despite what people think, everyone in FCPS is not rich. Many students are chasing merit because their parents make too much for financial aid but not enough to afford so many of these schools. So the students have to take a lot of tough classes.


If your kids are incapable of going to school 5 days a week and need eight 4-day school weeks in a period of 2.5 months, I would take a look at whether or not they can actually handle college.


Not PP but this makes no sense. College schedules are chosen by students (sometimes you do get stuck with a crap class time). They take 15 credit hours a semester. They don't even have classes every day, on most days. And they certainly do not have class for 6 hours and 45 mins a day. Have YOU even been to college?


Yes, I went to HS, college and law school when academics used to be difficult. Per the moms on DCUM, we cannot even expect our children to go to school 5 days a week because it is too stressful for them. Can't wait to see how prepared these kids are for the working world. I'm sure they'll accomplish loads. Will they need a mid-work day nap, too? No wonder 60% of STEM grad students in this country are foreign born. US kids cannot handle anything remotely challenging - going to school FT for one.



It doesn't sound like you have been to college or law school if you cannot understand how much more free time it offers than HS. Academics are difficult. Even more so than when you went. No one said we can't expect kids to go 5 days a week. Some of us are saying the breaks are welcome. Kids will do what needs to be done. If you asked for 7 days, they'd do it, but the point was as a parent of HS kids, the breaks are appreciated for my already stressed-out teen. I have young adults in the workforce who had breaks in FCPS and somehow have graduated college just fine and are accomplishing "loads." One is in STEM, the other in business school and both are doing just fine. I agree with whoever wrote the above about needed breaks for students and those who agree. If you don't like it, leave. Many of us think it's a welcome reprieve.


+1,000
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2022 09:34     Subject: Yay! Another religious holiday!

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Kids do NOT need the breaks. School is already so easy. Academics are at all time low. It's pathetic that parents think their kids can't handle 5 days/week of school.


Speak for yourself. My kid is doing just fine. And I absolutely think they need breaks. You point to academics only but the stress on these kids is at an all time high and that is due to many reasons discussed ad nauseum on here. They need a break and can still have consistency w/o their a---es in a seat 5 days/week. College, grad school . . . they won't be in class 5 days/ week. By HS, they for sure do not need to be 5 days a week all day.


School (FCPS) is not stressful. If your kids are stressed, it's because of something else.


Your kid must go to Mount Vernon or something.


+1
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2022 22:24     Subject: Yay! Another religious holiday!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids do NOT need the breaks. School is already so easy. Academics are at all time low. It's pathetic that parents think their kids can't handle 5 days/week of school.


Speak for yourself. My kid is doing just fine. And I absolutely think they need breaks. You point to academics only but the stress on these kids is at an all time high and that is due to many reasons discussed ad nauseum on here. They need a break and can still have consistency w/o their a---es in a seat 5 days/week. College, grad school . . . they won't be in class 5 days/ week. By HS, they for sure do not need to be 5 days a week all day.


School (FCPS) is not stressful. If your kids are stressed, it's because of something else.


Your kid must go to Mount Vernon or something.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2022 22:20     Subject: Yay! Another religious holiday!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids do NOT need the breaks. School is already so easy. Academics are at all time low. It's pathetic that parents think their kids can't handle 5 days/week of school.


Speak for yourself. My kid is doing just fine. And I absolutely think they need breaks. You point to academics only but the stress on these kids is at an all time high and that is due to many reasons discussed ad nauseum on here. They need a break and can still have consistency w/o their a---es in a seat 5 days/week. College, grad school . . . they won't be in class 5 days/ week. By HS, they for sure do not need to be 5 days a week all day.


School (FCPS) is not stressful. If your kids are stressed, it's because of something else.


Maybe you go to a crappy school or your kid has crappy teachers or a weak schedule. My junior has 5 AP courses - AP Lang, AP Calc BC, AP Physics C, AP US history, and AP French plus some other random classes. He plays 2 Varsity sports and volunteers on weekends. He's stressed. He needs any break he can get to just study or get ahead in reading assignments. It's not like he spends it napping.


Seriously, please step back and think through the long (hopefully) trajectory of life. You should look into college experience for your child that are employable, enriching, and achieveble with life balance. Look at the "most successful" or richest people in the world...they are/were creative AND smart, which takes mental space that is not constantly stressed by trying to do advanced acacdemic work in EVERY area. Mental health is just as important as physical health. Confidence adds many points to employability/qualification for scholarships/etc. etc.

Stop. Breathe. Think about your kid in relation to the whole wide world, not just the phenomenom of FCPS or NoVA. It's OK. They will be fantastic if you guide them grounded in reality.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2022 21:27     Subject: Yay! Another religious holiday!

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, being an atheist in the US is a very weird experience. I grew up without a religion, as is common back home and I am finding it very difficult to come to grips with how much religion has a hold of life in the US. Why do we need to stop life so people can worship their imaginary friends? And our school just keeps piling the holidays on in the name of equity.


I am also an atheist and decided a long time ago to not let it affect mine. Fill out the survey, get the calendar, fill in dates, get day care, move in with my life. It’s very easy.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2022 21:24     Subject: Yay! Another religious holiday!

Yeah, being an atheist in the US is a very weird experience. I grew up without a religion, as is common back home and I am finding it very difficult to come to grips with how much religion has a hold of life in the US. Why do we need to stop life so people can worship their imaginary friends? And our school just keeps piling the holidays on in the name of equity.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2022 21:01     Subject: Yay! Another religious holiday!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We've had 3 (4?) religious holidays so far this year... and endless more to come.

Liberals fought hard to remove any entanglement between public school and Christian religion, now these hypocrites can't add enough religious holidays to the schedule.

Wish my kids were in school and learning. Wish the School Board even cared about that.


Maybe you should send your kid to private. Homeschooling is also an option.


Maybe Public Schools should have a sensible schedule. I don't think that we have a month left this year were the kids have a full week of school every week. We have a few were there is only one short week but most have 2-3 weeks that are off or shortened. Say what you will about diversity but many kids need a more stable schedule.

Between Teacher Workdays and Religious holidays and Federal Holidays the kids are out of school in a way that is disruptive. Something needs to change. And yes, I filled out the survey. And I have looked at the survey results and it sure as hell looks to me like most parents are not happy with the schedule.


I agree. The number of days off from Oct to return of school after the winter break is ridiculous. In Loudoun there are too many days off in Oct and Nov.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2022 20:59     Subject: Yay! Another religious holiday!

Anonymous wrote:And clearly you are a RASCIST ANTI SEMITE SO GO BACK TO YOUR HOLE.


You must have confused me with Kanye. He’s not on this thread though.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2022 19:20     Subject: Yay! Another religious holiday!

And clearly you are a RASCIST ANTI SEMITE SO GO BACK TO YOUR HOLE.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2022 19:20     Subject: Yay! Another religious holiday!

Anonymous wrote:We've had 3 (4?) religious holidays so far this year... and endless more to come.

Liberals fought hard to remove any entanglement between public school and Christian religion, now these hypocrites can't add enough religious holidays to the schedule.

Wish my kids were in school and learning. Wish the School Board even cared about that.


So give up Christmas break fixed it for you.