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Anonymous wrote:A former Vegan now vegetarian; I used to get the looks whenever I said I was vegan, some people took it well some others kind of told me that I didn’t know what I was missing. I married a wonderful man that loves his meats and I happily cook them for him since I LOVE cooking. He now eats a well balanced diet that includes veggies and clean/lean protein. His family although…old’ good folks will never understand that I do t like meat. My mother-in-law to this day offers me bacon ..I keep reminding her that I don’t eat meat(been telling her this the past 10 years.) I hardly ever accept invitations to eat at friends house not just because I’m vegetarian, but also because I have food sensitivities and a GI issue (and I admit, I’m a picky eater.) Nevertheless, if I have a gathering I bring a homemade dish that both my husband and I can eat, and another for folks that don’t have any food intolerance issues. Problem solve. I simply careless what people think about my ‘uniqueness’ diet as some of them call it.

Vegan, vegetarian, “food sensitivities,” “a GI issue,” an admitted picky eater—in other words, you have disordered eating habits and a weird relationship with food. Proving the point.

Not according to global nutrition goals. We will definitely be moving toward a more plant based diet, and have started to do so.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-02409-7

https://www.agrinews-pubs.com/2020/03/22/plant-based-eating-trend-growing/a3qtsc5/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3662288/
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/16/climate/meat-environment-climate-change.html

Anonymous wrote:I’m a pescatarian, that was a vegetarian for 20 years. I don’t have a problem making vegan dishes, since I probably eat vegan 30% of the time anyway. But almost all of my vegan friends are vegan + something else, and that’s really challenging. Vegan + gluten free; vegan + no soy; vegan + prefers raw; vegan + allergic to nightshades. So, we up getting take-our from the same three places a lot. We can’t go to new restaurants, even on my birthday, I can’t select a restaurant. It’s taken all of the joy out of food. And none of them cook, either.

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Anonymous wrote:A former Vegan now vegetarian; I used to get the looks whenever I said I was vegan, some people took it well some others kind of told me that I didn’t know what I was missing. I married a wonderful man that loves his meats and I happily cook them for him since I LOVE cooking. He now eats a well balanced diet that includes veggies and clean/lean protein. His family although…old’ good folks will never understand that I do t like meat. My mother-in-law to this day offers me bacon ..I keep reminding her that I don’t eat meat(been telling her this the past 10 years.) I hardly ever accept invitations to eat at friends house not just because I’m vegetarian, but also because I have food sensitivities and a GI issue (and I admit, I’m a picky eater.) Nevertheless, if I have a gathering I bring a homemade dish that both my husband and I can eat, and another for folks that don’t have any food intolerance issues. Problem solve. I simply careless what people think about my ‘uniqueness’ diet as some of them call it.

Vegan, vegetarian, “food sensitivities,” “a GI issue,” an admitted picky eater—in other words, you have disordered eating habits and a weird relationship with food. Proving the point.

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Anonymous wrote:A former Vegan now vegetarian; I used to get the looks whenever I said I was vegan, some people took it well some others kind of told me that I didn’t know what I was missing. I married a wonderful man that loves his meats and I happily cook them for him since I LOVE cooking. He now eats a well balanced diet that includes veggies and clean/lean protein. His family although…old’ good folks will never understand that I do t like meat. My mother-in-law to this day offers me bacon ..I keep reminding her that I don’t eat meat(been telling her this the past 10 years.) I hardly ever accept invitations to eat at friends house not just because I’m vegetarian, but also because I have food sensitivities and a GI issue (and I admit, I’m a picky eater.) Nevertheless, if I have a gathering I bring a homemade dish that both my husband and I can eat, and another for folks that don’t have any food intolerance issues. Problem solve. I simply careless what people think about my ‘uniqueness’ diet as some of them call it.

Vegan, vegetarian, “food sensitivities,” “a GI issue,” an admitted picky eater—in other words, you have disordered eating habits and a weird relationship with food. Proving the point.

Anonymous wrote:A former Vegan now vegetarian; I used to get the looks whenever I said I was vegan, some people took it well some others kind of told me that I didn’t know what I was missing. I married a wonderful man that loves his meats and I happily cook them for him since I LOVE cooking. He now eats a well balanced diet that includes veggies and clean/lean protein. His family although…old’ good folks will never understand that I do t like meat. My mother-in-law to this day offers me bacon ..I keep reminding her that I don’t eat meat(been telling her this the past 10 years.) I hardly ever accept invitations to eat at friends house not just because I’m vegetarian, but also because I have food sensitivities and a GI issue (and I admit, I’m a picky eater.) Nevertheless, if I have a gathering I bring a homemade dish that both my husband and I can eat, and another for folks that don’t have any food intolerance issues. Problem solve. I simply careless what people think about my ‘uniqueness’ diet as some of them call it.

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Anonymous wrote:The vegan hate is really big in the boomer crowd that grew up learning to cook by adding butter, cream and bacon to everything. I personally love bacon but it’s a PITA to make. I’ve found that butter and cream really don’t make vegetables taste better at all. They basically mask bad cooking and make something meh.

Poor you. Must be so difficult to live so oppressed. Btw I do not hate vegans but we is me is tiring

Anonymous wrote:Not hate, and not even high on my list:

Worst Guests Ever:
1. GF “by choice;”
2. Men Who Don’t Cook But Criticize
3. Nightshade Avoiders
4. Keto Devotees
5. Intermittent Fasters who Sit at Table, Don’t Eat, and Talk About Fasting
6. GF by Necessity But Also Avoid Lactose/Soy
7. Midwesterners Who Don’t Do “Spicy;”
8. Midwesterner’s Who Don’t Do “Vegetables;”
9. Guests Who Claim all Foods are “Inflammatory” Yet Eat Flaming Hot Cheetos in Car Out Of Bag;
10. Vegans

Anonymous wrote:The vegan hate is really big in the boomer crowd that grew up learning to cook by adding butter, cream and bacon to everything. I personally love bacon but it’s a PITA to make. I’ve found that butter and cream really don’t make vegetables taste better at all. They basically mask bad cooking and make something meh.

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Anonymous wrote:Inspired by the other thread on having vegans over for thanksgiving:

I’m trying to understand the intensely personal dislike that some people seem to harbor toward vegans.

Is the problem that:
- you dislike it when vegans try to push their lifestyle onto you, or
- you have some problem with the actual diet itself, or
- something else

I write this as a vegan myself, but one who has no issue with others eating meat. You want your burger, eat your burger. Does not matter to me at all. Just as I respect others’ choices, why can they not respect mine?

I haven't seen the other thread, and I imagine this has been covered both here and there. I don't hate vegans in a vacuum, but having them attend Thanksgiving would be a significant inconvenience. I can't think of one thing I typically serve for Thanksgiving that is vegan - maybe the cranberry sauce, and perhaps a salad, depending on which salad I make. My entire menu would have to be modified, and most of it would taste a lot worse than it does now. I have enough to do both before and on Thanksgiving to relish doing that (oh, yeah, they can eat the relish tray).

Also, Anthony Bourdain referred to vegans as a Hezbollah-like splinter group of vegetarians. I think that's apt.

He actually slaughtered a baby lamb and pig himself, the reasoning being that he should be able to do it if he was going to eat it. I have maintained that everyone should actually be a part of the slaughter process. Spend time in an industrial processing plant, do the deed yourself before you ever eat another meat meal. If you can do it- great . Most people compartmentalize their food sources.

Anthony Bourdain is a POS who glorified death. His friends said he had a long-time fascination with suicide -- not that that is not the same as being suicidal. He left behind a child. He sucks. I do not admire him in the least.

Think you missed the point. This isn't a commentary about him personally. It's about a chef who engaged in the reality of his food source. This isn't about him, his suicide, or anything. It's about food- that's all. Try to keep up.

No, that is completely missing the point. It IS about death. It is about killing an animal yourself. Most people don't want to kill. Most people choose to avoid it. He didn't. He sought it out and pretended that was somehow noble. Because he was a chef? Gimme a break. He was a sick, sick man. That is clear to all to see now.

Oh, so you are not sick because you have other people slaughter your food? Is that correct?

Yes, that is correct. Seeking out something rightfully horrifying is sick. Sticking one's head in the sand is the cultural norm.

DP. Well, there it is.

+10000

Well you are playing the same game. The truth is that 99.9% of people who eat meat are sticking their heads in the sand on a daily basis. You're doing the same to pretend that's not happening. Why not say it out loud.

You are so preciously divorced from history, nature, and reality. Are you implying humans around the world today and throughout history were sick psychos for slaughtering meat to feed themselves and their families? Are you even for real?

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Anonymous wrote:Inspired by the other thread on having vegans over for thanksgiving:

I’m trying to understand the intensely personal dislike that some people seem to harbor toward vegans.

Is the problem that:
- you dislike it when vegans try to push their lifestyle onto you, or
- you have some problem with the actual diet itself, or
- something else

I write this as a vegan myself, but one who has no issue with others eating meat. You want your burger, eat your burger. Does not matter to me at all. Just as I respect others’ choices, why can they not respect mine?

I haven't seen the other thread, and I imagine this has been covered both here and there. I don't hate vegans in a vacuum, but having them attend Thanksgiving would be a significant inconvenience. I can't think of one thing I typically serve for Thanksgiving that is vegan - maybe the cranberry sauce, and perhaps a salad, depending on which salad I make. My entire menu would have to be modified, and most of it would taste a lot worse than it does now. I have enough to do both before and on Thanksgiving to relish doing that (oh, yeah, they can eat the relish tray).

Also, Anthony Bourdain referred to vegans as a Hezbollah-like splinter group of vegetarians. I think that's apt.

He actually slaughtered a baby lamb and pig himself, the reasoning being that he should be able to do it if he was going to eat it. I have maintained that everyone should actually be a part of the slaughter process. Spend time in an industrial processing plant, do the deed yourself before you ever eat another meat meal. If you can do it- great . Most people compartmentalize their food sources.

Anthony Bourdain is a POS who glorified death. His friends said he had a long-time fascination with suicide -- not that that is not the same as being suicidal. He left behind a child. He sucks. I do not admire him in the least.

Think you missed the point. This isn't a commentary about him personally. It's about a chef who engaged in the reality of his food source. This isn't about him, his suicide, or anything. It's about food- that's all. Try to keep up.

No, that is completely missing the point. It IS about death. It is about killing an animal yourself. Most people don't want to kill. Most people choose to avoid it. He didn't. He sought it out and pretended that was somehow noble. Because he was a chef? Gimme a break. He was a sick, sick man. That is clear to all to see now.

Oh, so you are not sick because you have other people slaughter your food? Is that correct?

Yes, that is correct. Seeking out something rightfully horrifying is sick. Sticking one's head in the sand is the cultural norm.

DP. Well, there it is.

+10000

Well you are playing the same game. The truth is that 99.9% of people who eat meat are sticking their heads in the sand on a daily basis. You're doing the same to pretend that's not happening. Why not say it out loud.