Anonymous
05/19/2022 14:52
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Serious question: what's the approved DCUM view about replacement theory, is it just right-wing fear and white supremacy, or does it also include the well-established and often touted fact that the US population is quickly moving towards being primarily minorities.
It's de facto not a "theory," if you're just rationally talking about data and statistics.
It becomes a "theory" when you try to attribute malice and blame to the changing data. And even worse, when you try to "stop the change"...presumably through murder and deportation of American citizens.
I'm sympathetic to this view that discussing demographic shifts in terms of data and statistics should not be criticized. I agree that attributing fears to the shift is problematic. But what about attributing hope to the shift? I feel that these are flip sides of the same coin. For someone to be happy about a different demographic mix in the future must mean they view the current mix to be inferior in comparison.
Framing like this denies that there is a power dynamic at play. As a non-white person married to a white person, I don't think that one particular ethnic/racial mix is fundamentally better than another. But I do think that there is a power asymmetry in the US, and our laws, systems, and institutions favor white people...though most do so indirectly these days. In a democracy, demographic shifts that give non-white people more electoral power give me hope that we can start passing laws and building institutions that are more equitable. Too many people (and not even just white people, also non-white people who've managed to eke out some privilege) want to jump to race neutral without recognizing that we're still living with the legacy of racist policies that disadvantage non-white people.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 14:33
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Republicans have let Internet trolls take over their party.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 14:26
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:10 dead in Buffalo. The loser who did this was radicalized by the "great replacement" conspiracy enthusiastically promoted by various right wing media types and elected republicans.
Since the shooting occur, the response from that side has been (un)surprisingly muted.
Do you think they will ever admit that it is a bad idea to promote that sort of thing given the number of mash shootings that it has led to or will they remain silent while the killings continue?
Republicans never admit anything, ever. When caught out in an error or (more typically) a lie, they either ignore it or double down. That's like, Rule One in their rhetorical playbook.
Anonymous
05/19/2022 13:56
Subject: Re:When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous
05/19/2022 10:47
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:10 dead in Buffalo. The loser who did this was radicalized by the "great replacement" conspiracy enthusiastically promoted by various right wing media types and elected republicans.
Since the shooting occur, the response from that side has been (un)surprisingly muted.
Do you think they will ever admit that it is a bad idea to promote that sort of thing given the number of mash shootings that it has led to or will they remain silent while the killings continue?
Some in Congressman are still crying about a stolen election. They do not care about their country and as long as it's only people of color being murdered, they do not care! So the answer is NEVER!
Anonymous
05/19/2022 10:32
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Serious question: what's the approved DCUM view about replacement theory, is it just right-wing fear and white supremacy, or does it also include the well-established and often touted fact that the US population is quickly moving towards being primarily minorities.
It's de facto not a "theory," if you're just rationally talking about data and statistics.
It becomes a "theory" when you try to attribute malice and blame to the changing data. And even worse, when you try to "stop the change"...presumably through murder and deportation of American citizens.
I'm sympathetic to this view that discussing demographic shifts in terms of data and statistics should not be criticized. I agree that attributing fears to the shift is problematic. But what about attributing hope to the shift? I feel that these are flip sides of the same coin. For someone to be happy about a different demographic mix in the future must mean they view the current mix to be inferior in comparison.
Also apply the necessary monetary costs of incorporating uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking immigrants into the schools, driving education, concept of insurance, paying taxes, preventative healthcare and all the other things they’ve never heard of or understand.
Every immigrant around me pays taxes for schools for starters with that list. Our schools are funded by property taxes and every person living in the district is paying property tax to fund it. There is no way out so I don't know what you talking about on this issue in places where the property taxes fund the schools.
Immigrants are a net benefit to government programs. They pay in far more than they get out of them.
So all of the Boomers should be thanking undocumented immigrants who prop up Social Security for them.
They should be thanking immigrants, period. They take all the dirty jobs, like wiping the bottoms off of the elderly, cleaning people's homes, and picking your produce.
This a fascinating map, but are there really states with more immigrant college teachers than immigrant doctors? that is hard to believe. I don't think I've ever been treated by a doctor born in this country.
Just four states and think how you, as an adult (and not, presumably, a college student) interact with immigrants. Adults are more likely to see doctors than they are to see “college teachers,” a phrase that leaves open a lot of room for TAs and such. I would say that 50-75% of my TAs at my big state school were foreign born (though it’s been a minute since I graduated so memory might fail me here).
Anonymous
05/18/2022 23:55
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Serious question: what's the approved DCUM view about replacement theory, is it just right-wing fear and white supremacy, or does it also include the well-established and often touted fact that the US population is quickly moving towards being primarily minorities.
It's de facto not a "theory," if you're just rationally talking about data and statistics.
It becomes a "theory" when you try to attribute malice and blame to the changing data. And even worse, when you try to "stop the change"...presumably through murder and deportation of American citizens.
I'm sympathetic to this view that discussing demographic shifts in terms of data and statistics should not be criticized. I agree that attributing fears to the shift is problematic. But what about attributing hope to the shift? I feel that these are flip sides of the same coin. For someone to be happy about a different demographic mix in the future must mean they view the current mix to be inferior in comparison.
Also apply the necessary monetary costs of incorporating uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking immigrants into the schools, driving education, concept of insurance, paying taxes, preventative healthcare and all the other things they’ve never heard of or understand.
Every immigrant around me pays taxes for schools for starters with that list. Our schools are funded by property taxes and every person living in the district is paying property tax to fund it. There is no way out so I don't know what you talking about on this issue in places where the property taxes fund the schools.
Immigrants are a net benefit to government programs. They pay in far more than they get out of them.
So all of the Boomers should be thanking undocumented immigrants who prop up Social Security for them.
They should be thanking immigrants, period. They take all the dirty jobs, like wiping the bottoms off of the elderly, cleaning people's homes, and picking your produce.
This a fascinating map, but are there really states with more immigrant college teachers than immigrant doctors? that is hard to believe. I don't think I've ever been treated by a doctor born in this country.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 23:53
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Serious question: what's the approved DCUM view about replacement theory, is it just right-wing fear and white supremacy, or does it also include the well-established and often touted fact that the US population is quickly moving towards being primarily minorities.
It's de facto not a "theory," if you're just rationally talking about data and statistics.
It becomes a "theory" when you try to attribute malice and blame to the changing data. And even worse, when you try to "stop the change"...presumably through murder and deportation of American citizens.
I'm sympathetic to this view that discussing demographic shifts in terms of data and statistics should not be criticized. I agree that attributing fears to the shift is problematic. But what about attributing hope to the shift? I feel that these are flip sides of the same coin. For someone to be happy about a different demographic mix in the future must mean they view the current mix to be inferior in comparison.
Also apply the necessary monetary costs of incorporating uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking immigrants into the schools, driving education, concept of insurance, paying taxes, preventative healthcare and all the other things they’ve never heard of or understand.
This is a fascinating map, but I'm really surprised there are states dominated by college teachers. I would have thought medical doctors would be more than college teachers. I don't think I've ever been treated by a doctor that was born in this country.
Every immigrant around me pays taxes for schools for starters with that list. Our schools are funded by property taxes and every person living in the district is paying property tax to fund it. There is no way out so I don't know what you talking about on this issue in places where the property taxes fund the schools.
Immigrants are a net benefit to government programs. They pay in far more than they get out of them.
So all of the Boomers should be thanking undocumented immigrants who prop up Social Security for them.
They should be thanking immigrants, period. They take all the dirty jobs, like wiping the bottoms off of the elderly, cleaning people's homes, and picking your produce.
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05/18/2022 18:10
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Serious question: what's the approved DCUM view about replacement theory, is it just right-wing fear and white supremacy, or does it also include the well-established and often touted fact that the US population is quickly moving towards being primarily minorities.
It's de facto not a "theory," if you're just rationally talking about data and statistics.
It becomes a "theory" when you try to attribute malice and blame to the changing data. And even worse, when you try to "stop the change"...presumably through murder and deportation of American citizens.
I'm sympathetic to this view that discussing demographic shifts in terms of data and statistics should not be criticized. I agree that attributing fears to the shift is problematic. But what about attributing hope to the shift? I feel that these are flip sides of the same coin. For someone to be happy about a different demographic mix in the future must mean they view the current mix to be inferior in comparison.
Also apply the necessary monetary costs of incorporating uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking immigrants into the schools, driving education, concept of insurance, paying taxes, preventative healthcare and all the other things they’ve never heard of or understand.
Every immigrant around me pays taxes for schools for starters with that list. Our schools are funded by property taxes and every person living in the district is paying property tax to fund it. There is no way out so I don't know what you talking about on this issue in places where the property taxes fund the schools.
Immigrants are a net benefit to government programs. They pay in far more than they get out of them.
So all of the Boomers should be thanking undocumented immigrants who prop up Social Security for them.
They should be thanking immigrants, period. They take all the dirty jobs, like wiping the bottoms off of the elderly, cleaning people's homes, and picking your produce.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 17:28
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Republicans aren’t going to examine their white supremacy no matter how many people get killed in service to their hateful ideology.
"examine their white supremacy"
No, they aren't going to, you can bet even many democrats won't be "examining" their "whiteness"-associated "sins"
Anonymous
05/18/2022 17:20
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Serious question: what's the approved DCUM view about replacement theory, is it just right-wing fear and white supremacy, or does it also include the well-established and often touted fact that the US population is quickly moving towards being primarily minorities.
It's de facto not a "theory," if you're just rationally talking about data and statistics.
It becomes a "theory" when you try to attribute malice and blame to the changing data. And even worse, when you try to "stop the change"...presumably through murder and deportation of American citizens.
I'm sympathetic to this view that discussing demographic shifts in terms of data and statistics should not be criticized. I agree that attributing fears to the shift is problematic. But what about attributing hope to the shift? I feel that these are flip sides of the same coin. For someone to be happy about a different demographic mix in the future must mean they view the current mix to be inferior in comparison.
Also apply the necessary monetary costs of incorporating uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking immigrants into the schools, driving education, concept of insurance, paying taxes, preventative healthcare and all the other things they’ve never heard of or understand.
Every immigrant around me pays taxes for schools for starters with that list. Our schools are funded by property taxes and every person living in the district is paying property tax to fund it. There is no way out so I don't know what you talking about on this issue in places where the property taxes fund the schools.
Immigrants are a net benefit to government programs. They pay in far more than they get out of them.
So all of the Boomers should be thanking undocumented immigrants who prop up Social Security for them.