Anonymous
03/17/2022 21:26
Subject: Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-enrollment-declines-for-second-consecutive-year-after-decade-of-growth/
And the article says :
Enrollment decreases over the past two years are not unique to MCPS.
Recent research from the Brookings Institute showed that public school enrollment has decreased nationwide, largely in pre-kindergarten and kindergarten. An NPR poll of 60 districts across the country showed an average enrollment drop of 16% in kindergarten.
Anonymous
03/16/2022 20:11
Subject: Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you work hard and get results you are rewarded--URM, Asian , White...does not matter. Excuses are for losers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We left MCPS after the Spring shutdown due to Covid. Went to private where our kids attended in person all year. Learned what we were missing, ranging from smaller class sizes, to attention for all kids (including the high flyers and the quiet ones, not just the trouble makers and those who needed some catching up), teachers who got to know our kids (because they weren't one of 30 in a classroom, one of 150 they saw in a day), a place where our kids who weren't star athletes could still participate in sports and other activities because it's required, and there aren't 100 kids going out for 20 spots.
Long story short, we are not going back to MCPS. HHI is $350k. Our priority is our children's education, and MCPS no longer fits the bill.
We left mcps precovid and moved to a private private boys school in dc that apart from small class sizes and all can participate in sports, the academics have not been better and in classes worse. Moving back to public, can’t justify the annual cost at over $30 grand.
We just left our private and returned to MCPS and couldn't be happier. The AP options in HS seem much better and it's also free.
Until they do away with APs. It is not equitable.
dp.. absolutely zero intent of that happening. If anything, they push more URM to take AP classes/exams.
Really? Not from what I have seen. Give it a year or two. Then we can talk equity.
and what have you seen?
Many, many instances on inequity toward URM. Forget the APs and even things out.
I wish it were that simple.
Maybe you need to scale your expectations to your kid's actual capabilities. This isn't China or the UK, where one end of the year exam determines your socioeconomic fate for life. The USA is a land of entrepreneurs and second, third, and fourth chances. Give your kid a joy for learning and stop chasing brass rings. The rest will come.
I went to school with many high achievers who were pushed by their parents. Graduating class of thirty. Twelve ivy admits and the rest were *second* tier schools like Duke, UVA, etc.
The most successful kid from our year went to Temple. The second most successful? Rutgers. The third? Dropped out of Brown after one year. The rest of us have had varying careers and lives, most faulty middle of the road. The valedictorian (Princeton) is a college professor. In the humanities.
We were supposed to be the best and brightest. We were pushed, collided, tutored and groomed to be. None of us met those expectations, and I don't think more language immersion camp would have helped.
Wise words, and very true to my experience, too.
The school provides the tools, but it's up to the student to use them.
Anonymous
03/16/2022 15:14
Subject: Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?
Yes. The wealthy part of MOCO is much wealthier than it was 40 years ago. So UMC people lived in close in MOCO because they couldn’t afford private (and left DC schools and DC houses) because of it. Now they can afford it and they do it.
Anonymous
03/16/2022 07:39
Subject: Re:Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?
I went to a W school over 30 years ago. The most successful person dropped out of college and is a billionaire. His name is Dan Snyder who went to Charles W Woodward. Many of the top students ended up in academia or working for the government. The wealthiest were fairly mediocre students who took risks in business.
Anonymous
03/16/2022 06:58
Subject: Re:Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?
"collided" was supposed to be "coddled" but actually collided works. We were collided against each other--a lot of fake competition over miniscule differences in GPA and test scores. A lot of "winner-take-all" and Ayn Rand essays. The two highest scorers became total libertarians convinced of their own superiority.
Anonymous
03/16/2022 00:27
Subject: Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:
Maybe you need to scale your expectations to your kid's actual capabilities. This isn't China or the UK, where one end of the year exam determines your socioeconomic fate for life. The USA is a land of entrepreneurs and second, third, and fourth chances. Give your kid a joy for learning and stop chasing brass rings. The rest will come.
I went to school with many high achievers who were pushed by their parents. Graduating class of thirty. Twelve ivy admits and the rest were *second* tier schools like Duke, UVA, etc.
The most successful kid from our year went to Temple. The second most successful? Rutgers. The third? Dropped out of Brown after one year. The rest of us have had varying careers and lives, most faulty middle of the road. The valedictorian (Princeton) is a college professor. In the humanities.
We were supposed to be the best and brightest. We were pushed, collided, tutored and groomed to be. None of us met those expectations, and I don't think more language immersion camp would have helped.
Same here, and I went to a W school 15+ years ago. The most successful now were the B students in high school.
Anonymous
03/16/2022 00:06
Subject: Re:Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?
I have looked at the numbers on which schools lost kids during Covid, and it's not evenly spread around. Somerset lost like a third of their students, far more than other schools with relatively high SES. This is because that school has a very serious leadership problem. I say this because I think that people on both sides are right--MCPS is not "over," affluent parents haven't "fled" etc. But if you are at Somerset it might feel that way!
Anonymous
03/16/2022 00:02
Subject: Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you work hard and get results you are rewarded--URM, Asian , White...does not matter. Excuses are for losers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We left MCPS after the Spring shutdown due to Covid. Went to private where our kids attended in person all year. Learned what we were missing, ranging from smaller class sizes, to attention for all kids (including the high flyers and the quiet ones, not just the trouble makers and those who needed some catching up), teachers who got to know our kids (because they weren't one of 30 in a classroom, one of 150 they saw in a day), a place where our kids who weren't star athletes could still participate in sports and other activities because it's required, and there aren't 100 kids going out for 20 spots.
Long story short, we are not going back to MCPS. HHI is $350k. Our priority is our children's education, and MCPS no longer fits the bill.
We left mcps precovid and moved to a private private boys school in dc that apart from small class sizes and all can participate in sports, the academics have not been better and in classes worse. Moving back to public, can’t justify the annual cost at over $30 grand.
We just left our private and returned to MCPS and couldn't be happier. The AP options in HS seem much better and it's also free.
Until they do away with APs. It is not equitable.
dp.. absolutely zero intent of that happening. If anything, they push more URM to take AP classes/exams.
Really? Not from what I have seen. Give it a year or two. Then we can talk equity.
and what have you seen?
Many, many instances on inequity toward URM. Forget the APs and even things out.
I wish it were that simple.
Maybe you need to scale your expectations to your kid's actual capabilities. This isn't China or the UK, where one end of the year exam determines your socioeconomic fate for life. The USA is a land of entrepreneurs and second, third, and fourth chances. Give your kid a joy for learning and stop chasing brass rings. The rest will come.
I went to school with many high achievers who were pushed by their parents. Graduating class of thirty. Twelve ivy admits and the rest were *second* tier schools like Duke, UVA, etc.
The most successful kid from our year went to Temple. The second most successful? Rutgers. The third? Dropped out of Brown after one year. The rest of us have had varying careers and lives, most faulty middle of the road. The valedictorian (Princeton) is a college professor. In the humanities.
We were supposed to be the best and brightest. We were pushed, collided, tutored and groomed to be. None of us met those expectations, and I don't think more language immersion camp would have helped.
Wise words, and very true to my experience, too.
Anonymous
03/15/2022 11:47
Subject: Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you work hard and get results you are rewarded--URM, Asian , White...does not matter. Excuses are for losers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We left MCPS after the Spring shutdown due to Covid. Went to private where our kids attended in person all year. Learned what we were missing, ranging from smaller class sizes, to attention for all kids (including the high flyers and the quiet ones, not just the trouble makers and those who needed some catching up), teachers who got to know our kids (because they weren't one of 30 in a classroom, one of 150 they saw in a day), a place where our kids who weren't star athletes could still participate in sports and other activities because it's required, and there aren't 100 kids going out for 20 spots.
Long story short, we are not going back to MCPS. HHI is $350k. Our priority is our children's education, and MCPS no longer fits the bill.
We left mcps precovid and moved to a private private boys school in dc that apart from small class sizes and all can participate in sports, the academics have not been better and in classes worse. Moving back to public, can’t justify the annual cost at over $30 grand.
We just left our private and returned to MCPS and couldn't be happier. The AP options in HS seem much better and it's also free.
Until they do away with APs. It is not equitable.
dp.. absolutely zero intent of that happening. If anything, they push more URM to take AP classes/exams.
Really? Not from what I have seen. Give it a year or two. Then we can talk equity.
and what have you seen?
Many, many instances on inequity toward URM. Forget the APs and even things out.
I wish it were that simple.
Maybe you need to scale your expectations to your kid's actual capabilities. This isn't China or the UK, where one end of the year exam determines your socioeconomic fate for life. The USA is a land of entrepreneurs and second, third, and fourth chances. Give your kid a joy for learning and stop chasing brass rings. The rest will come.
I went to school with many high achievers who were pushed by their parents. Graduating class of thirty. Twelve ivy admits and the rest were *second* tier schools like Duke, UVA, etc.
The most successful kid from our year went to Temple. The second most successful? Rutgers. The third? Dropped out of Brown after one year. The rest of us have had varying careers and lives, most faulty middle of the road. The valedictorian (Princeton) is a college professor. In the humanities.
We were supposed to be the best and brightest. We were pushed, collided, tutored and groomed to be. None of us met those expectations, and I don't think more language immersion camp would have helped.
Anonymous
03/15/2022 11:20
Subject: Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We left MCPS after the Spring shutdown due to Covid. Went to private where our kids attended in person all year. Learned what we were missing, ranging from smaller class sizes, to attention for all kids (including the high flyers and the quiet ones, not just the trouble makers and those who needed some catching up), teachers who got to know our kids (because they weren't one of 30 in a classroom, one of 150 they saw in a day), a place where our kids who weren't star athletes could still participate in sports and other activities because it's required, and there aren't 100 kids going out for 20 spots.
Long story short, we are not going back to MCPS. HHI is $350k. Our priority is our children's education, and MCPS no longer fits the bill.
We left mcps precovid and moved to a private private boys school in dc that apart from small class sizes and all can participate in sports, the academics have not been better and in classes worse. Moving back to public, can’t justify the annual cost at over $30 grand.
We just left our private and returned to MCPS and couldn't be happier. The AP options in HS seem much better and it's also free.
Until they do away with APs. It is not equitable.
dp.. absolutely zero intent of that happening. If anything, they push more URM to take AP classes/exams.
Really? Not from what I have seen. Give it a year or two. Then we can talk equity.
and what have you seen?
Many, many instances on inequity toward URM. Forget the APs and even things out.
AP classes are offered in every single HS. What info do you have that indicates MCPS is going to get rid of APs?
Anonymous
03/15/2022 10:07
Subject: Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:If you work hard and get results you are rewarded--URM, Asian , White...does not matter. Excuses are for losers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We left MCPS after the Spring shutdown due to Covid. Went to private where our kids attended in person all year. Learned what we were missing, ranging from smaller class sizes, to attention for all kids (including the high flyers and the quiet ones, not just the trouble makers and those who needed some catching up), teachers who got to know our kids (because they weren't one of 30 in a classroom, one of 150 they saw in a day), a place where our kids who weren't star athletes could still participate in sports and other activities because it's required, and there aren't 100 kids going out for 20 spots.
Long story short, we are not going back to MCPS. HHI is $350k. Our priority is our children's education, and MCPS no longer fits the bill.
We left mcps precovid and moved to a private private boys school in dc that apart from small class sizes and all can participate in sports, the academics have not been better and in classes worse. Moving back to public, can’t justify the annual cost at over $30 grand.
We just left our private and returned to MCPS and couldn't be happier. The AP options in HS seem much better and it's also free.
Until they do away with APs. It is not equitable.
dp.. absolutely zero intent of that happening. If anything, they push more URM to take AP classes/exams.
Really? Not from what I have seen. Give it a year or two. Then we can talk equity.
and what have you seen?
Many, many instances on inequity toward URM. Forget the APs and even things out.
I wish it were that simple.
Anonymous
03/14/2022 23:07
Subject: Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:On the road? They reached the destination when they decided to put themselves first on March 16, 2020 Reap what you sow. All other public employees went to work in person. Nurses, firefighters, police. Teachers could have been heroes and increased their budgets!
Yawnnnn. Get a new song. This one is tired and stale.
Anonymous
03/14/2022 23:04
Subject: Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?
If you work hard and get results you are rewarded--URM, Asian , White...does not matter. Excuses are for losers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We left MCPS after the Spring shutdown due to Covid. Went to private where our kids attended in person all year. Learned what we were missing, ranging from smaller class sizes, to attention for all kids (including the high flyers and the quiet ones, not just the trouble makers and those who needed some catching up), teachers who got to know our kids (because they weren't one of 30 in a classroom, one of 150 they saw in a day), a place where our kids who weren't star athletes could still participate in sports and other activities because it's required, and there aren't 100 kids going out for 20 spots.
Long story short, we are not going back to MCPS. HHI is $350k. Our priority is our children's education, and MCPS no longer fits the bill.
We left mcps precovid and moved to a private private boys school in dc that apart from small class sizes and all can participate in sports, the academics have not been better and in classes worse. Moving back to public, can’t justify the annual cost at over $30 grand.
We just left our private and returned to MCPS and couldn't be happier. The AP options in HS seem much better and it's also free.
Until they do away with APs. It is not equitable.
dp.. absolutely zero intent of that happening. If anything, they push more URM to take AP classes/exams.
Really? Not from what I have seen. Give it a year or two. Then we can talk equity.
and what have you seen?
Many, many instances on inequity toward URM. Forget the APs and even things out.
Anonymous
03/14/2022 19:37
Subject: Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We left MCPS after the Spring shutdown due to Covid. Went to private where our kids attended in person all year. Learned what we were missing, ranging from smaller class sizes, to attention for all kids (including the high flyers and the quiet ones, not just the trouble makers and those who needed some catching up), teachers who got to know our kids (because they weren't one of 30 in a classroom, one of 150 they saw in a day), a place where our kids who weren't star athletes could still participate in sports and other activities because it's required, and there aren't 100 kids going out for 20 spots.
Long story short, we are not going back to MCPS. HHI is $350k. Our priority is our children's education, and MCPS no longer fits the bill.
We left mcps precovid and moved to a private private boys school in dc that apart from small class sizes and all can participate in sports, the academics have not been better and in classes worse. Moving back to public, can’t justify the annual cost at over $30 grand.
We just left our private and returned to MCPS and couldn't be happier. The AP options in HS seem much better and it's also free.
Until they do away with APs. It is not equitable.
dp.. absolutely zero intent of that happening. If anything, they push more URM to take AP classes/exams.
Really? Not from what I have seen. Give it a year or two. Then we can talk equity.
and what have you seen?
Many, many instances on inequity toward URM. Forget the APs and even things out.
Anonymous
03/14/2022 17:14
Subject: Re:Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?
Totally agree. Whitman feeder elementary schools were good in the past...now ok, but obsessed with social justice and being woke.
Pyle is a total disaster. The place looks more like prison than 7 Locks Prison.
quote=Anonymous]
I wish I could scream this from the rooftop.
Our ES experience was incredible.....then everything went turned into dumpster fire almost immediately in MS
Pyle is a total disaster. The place looks more like prison than 7 Locks Prison.
quote=Anonymous]
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our MCPS ES already has small class sizes; DCs' needs are being met in spades; principal and teachers are terrific; family community is great; extracurricular options and aftercare are easy to access; facility is pleasant, comfortable, and walking distance from our home. Why would we go private?
Because what lies ahead in MS is a trash heap? ES is a different animal.
I wish I could scream this from the rooftop.
Our ES experience was incredible.....then everything went turned into dumpster fire almost immediately in MS