Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 17:36     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now is a good reminder of Robert Gates famous quote... "Joe Biden has been on the wrong side of every major foreign policy in his 40 plus years as a public servant".


And this:

"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f- things up."
-Obama


- via a single media outlet that cited some alleged unnamed Obama aide, with no context given, never confirmed by anyone else
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 17:34     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kicking them off SWIFT should do the trick.


Yeah?

So I guess you’re all-in for sending your precious little Larlo over there to fight it out with Ivan, eh?

Or will you leave that to all those red-state kids…. again.


Exactly.


Red state kids?
Two of the top states contributing the most troops are New York (blue) and California (blue).

Get over your dumb selves.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 17:33     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get it. NATO doesn’t even want Ukraine to join. China is the existential threat. We should be a quasi - ally of Russia like we were in WW2.

The DC crew is really stupid. As soon as Trump leaves they screw literally everything up in a year.


This.

I cannot even fathom how fast the wheels came off as soon as the Biden clownshow took over. 366 days in and we’re seriously contemplating a war with Russia. UFB. And China IS going for Taiwan, probably in April. They see the chaos and for them, this is THE moment to strike. They’ll never have a better opportunity than right now.


All brought to the world by Joe.


+100
I can't even believe the Biden administration is preparing to send OUR troops in to fight someone else's war. Did we not learn our lesson in Afghanistan? Biden is such an idiot.


As opposed to Republicans who had us in a forever war in Afghanistan. And Trump's withdrawal that would undeniably have been more chaotic than Bidens, like Trump's botched withdrawal from Syria that left bases and equipment behind to be captured by Russians along with abandoning our Kurd allies who fought by our sides.

Puh-leeeeze. You don't have a leg to stand on.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 17:22     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:Now is a good reminder of Robert Gates famous quote... "Joe Biden has been on the wrong side of every major foreign policy in his 40 plus years as a public servant".


And this:

"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f- things up."
-Obama
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 17:21     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kicking them off SWIFT should do the trick.


Yeah?

So I guess you’re all-in for sending your precious little Larlo over there to fight it out with Ivan, eh?

Or will you leave that to all those red-state kids…. again.


Exactly.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 17:16     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t get it. NATO doesn’t even want Ukraine to join. China is the existential threat. We should be a quasi - ally of Russia like we were in WW2.

The DC crew is really stupid. As soon as Trump leaves they screw literally everything up in a year.


This.

I cannot even fathom how fast the wheels came off as soon as the Biden clownshow took over. 366 days in and we’re seriously contemplating a war with Russia. UFB. And China IS going for Taiwan, probably in April. They see the chaos and for them, this is THE moment to strike. They’ll never have a better opportunity than right now.


All brought to the world by Joe.


+100
I can't even believe the Biden administration is preparing to send OUR troops in to fight someone else's war. Did we not learn our lesson in Afghanistan? Biden is such an idiot.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 16:47     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now is a good reminder of Robert Gates famous quote... "Joe Biden has been on the wrong side of every major foreign policy in his 40 plus years as a public servant".


Obama knew Joe pretty well, too

“Never underestimate Joe’s ability to f**k things up”

-Barack Obama


But the context matters. That Obama quote was referring to the episode when VP Biden was lobbying internally for William Morris, known colloquially as Corn Pop, to head HHS. Obama opposed it, but Biden continued to push for it, causing a small kerfuffle.


Huh? Conflating a bunch of different things there. The story about Obama saying "never underestimate Joe's ability" quote was cited as allegedly coming from some unnamed aide. Nobody knows if it's legit.

As for "Corn Pop" he was a real guy. But obvs never a nominee for HHS. https://heavy.com/news/2019/09/joe-biden-corn-pop-william-morris/
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 16:01     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now is a good reminder of Robert Gates famous quote... "Joe Biden has been on the wrong side of every major foreign policy in his 40 plus years as a public servant".


So you think we should preemptively surrender and disband NATO. Interesting. That seems like an amazingly stupid and poorly thought out strategy but whatever.


NATO doesn’t even want Ukraine to join. We have no interests in Ukraine. All these idiots
trying to start a war are the same lying Iraq crew of dummies.


Russia demanded Romania and Bulgaria as well. Even Ukraine knows that NATO will not defend them militarily. There's only one person trying to start a war and he is indeed an idiot (short too). But, I wouldn't tell him that if I were you. Building standards involving windows are very poor in Russia. On a personal note, human to human, I hope you've been able to set up an offshore hard currency account. Between the ruble and bitcoin things are going to get difficult.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 16:01     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now is a good reminder of Robert Gates famous quote... "Joe Biden has been on the wrong side of every major foreign policy in his 40 plus years as a public servant".


Obama knew Joe pretty well, too

“Never underestimate Joe’s ability to f**k things up”

-Barack Obama


But the context matters. That Obama quote was referring to the episode when VP Biden was lobbying internally for William Morris, known colloquially as Corn Pop, to head HHS. Obama opposed it, but Biden continued to push for it, causing a small kerfuffle.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 16:00     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

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I don’t think people realize just how weak Russia’s economy really is.


Russia's GDP is about 80% of Canada's and about 7.2% of ours.


Now do per capita


US - $69,000
Canada - $53,000
Russia - $11,000

So: Russia's GDP per capita is about 21% of Canada's and about 16% of ours.



The Russia military is a joke but they are slightly ok at computer warfare.


The conventional forces aren't the best, but as we know, illiterates with AKs didn't have much trouble holding off the most advanced military in the world for a couple decades. Resources AND will.



Meanwhile other illiterates with AK’s drove the most modern military on earth out of Afghanistan.



Yes asymmetrical terrorist tactics works against a big modern military sometimes.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 15:53     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Now is a good reminder of Robert Gates famous quote... "Joe Biden has been on the wrong side of every major foreign policy in his 40 plus years as a public servant".


So you think we should preemptively surrender and disband NATO. Interesting. That seems like an amazingly stupid and poorly thought out strategy but whatever.


NATO doesn’t even want Ukraine to join. We have no interests in Ukraine. All these idiots trying to start a war are the same lying Iraq crew of dummies.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 15:48     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:Now is a good reminder of Robert Gates famous quote... "Joe Biden has been on the wrong side of every major foreign policy in his 40 plus years as a public servant".


Obama knew Joe pretty well, too

“Never underestimate Joe’s ability to f**k things up”

-Barack Obama
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 15:43     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:Now is a good reminder of Robert Gates famous quote... "Joe Biden has been on the wrong side of every major foreign policy in his 40 plus years as a public servant".


It appears that Gates is on the same page as Biden with regards to Ukraine. https://www.ft.com/content/31a6f5b0-402d-4a84-bf3b-8c72a254eb81
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 15:41     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:Now is a good reminder of Robert Gates famous quote... "Joe Biden has been on the wrong side of every major foreign policy in his 40 plus years as a public servant".


So you think we should preemptively surrender and disband NATO. Interesting. That seems like an amazingly stupid and poorly thought out strategy but whatever.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2022 15:40     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

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I don’t think people realize just how weak Russia’s economy really is.


Russia's GDP is about 80% of Canada's and about 7.2% of ours.


Now do per capita


US - $69,000
Canada - $53,000
Russia - $11,000

So: Russia's GDP per capita is about 21% of Canada's and about 16% of ours.



The Russia military is a joke but they are slightly ok at computer warfare.


Yeah, Russia is pretty good at information warfare. You all have done a fantastic job. But social media is not reality. Russia is bluffing and demanding surrender. That's not goong to happen. Go ahead, invade Ukraine right before the Beijing Olympics. You'll destroy your day economy, kill thousands of your own citizens, entrench NATO in Poland and Romania, force Sweden to join NATO, and piss off China. We're not afraid of Russia and we're not as hopelessly divided as you think.



Agree! It won’t be Afghanistan. It will be quick and easy victory against Russia. The oligarchs have bled that country dry.



It’s fascinating watching all the leftist doves here putting on their hawk costumes, knowing they won’t be doing the fighting.



We know the MAGA crowd love Putin. You already told us you would rather be Russian than a liberal. We got it. You support Russia and think they’re powerful.



Where will you bury what’s left of your son after he gets shipped home from Biden’s war of distraction?