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Anonymous wrote:This is op. I did not know what that calls in English, and I google up, and yes, I did "coining". I was worried and left a message for the regular pediatrician to tell her what has happened and what I did. My kid does not take any herbal medicine and broths that I boiled for hours. I have not got any call from CPS, and I have learned my lesson. But you know what, coining does help to improve better health.

OP your pediatrician is a mandated reporter too. If the pediatrician disagrees with your cultural practices you will now have multiple people reporting you. You really need a lawyer. You can lose your kids this way.

OP is almost certainly not going to lose her kids over this one incident. CPS is loathe to remove kids from custody, well beyond the point when they should.

That said, OP, please don’t do this again. You can’t deliberately and repeatedly bruise your kids in this country, regardless of your personal cultural beliefs.

Absolutely she can. CPS can determine that because she insists on performing this abusive act and doesn't see it as abusive, they can make the determination to remove the children. The OP is now calling more mandated reporters to likely get her reported again. CPS has a ton of power. Anyone that deals with CPS knows that you take them 100% seriously.

Having been a CPS worker, I had one family who engaged in coining but those kids were not in care because of the coining but because of mental health and substance abuse as well as severe neglect. The mom wasn't able to care for the kids. These kind of things get called in regularly. They are no abusive in and of itself. Stop being dramatic. It was appropriate for the day care to call but more than likely, worst case CPS will come in, talk to her, do a safety plan and help her understand why not to do it (but she can tell the worker she didn't know and has since spoken to others who explained its not an ok practice here) and then do a follow up visit or two. It would be very unlikely that CPS would provide ongoing services and even less likely to remove a child over this.

OP made a mistake. It is a well known cultural practice in some parts of Asia. Stop scaring them when its probably just ruled out. If CPS was going to remove or really concerned they would have come same day/next day. We live in a very diverse area.

At no time has the OP stated that it was a mistake. The OP is insisting that it is a part of her culture. If she continues down this path how would you handle it in CPS? Allow the child to continue to be bruised?

It is part of her culture.

Female genital cutting is also a part of some cultures. I guess CPS should allow that as well?

Male genital cutting is part of American culture and CPS does absolutely nothing about it, so get off your high horse.

Right. Because they’re exactly the same.

Are you actually trying to minimize how horrifying circumcision is? Admit it, it is a barbaric practice done just for cultural reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:This is op. I did not know what that calls in English, and I google up, and yes, I did "coining". I was worried and left a message for the regular pediatrician to tell her what has happened and what I did. My kid does not take any herbal medicine and broths that I boiled for hours. I have not got any call from CPS, and I have learned my lesson. But you know what, coining does help to improve better health.

OP your pediatrician is a mandated reporter too. If the pediatrician disagrees with your cultural practices you will now have multiple people reporting you. You really need a lawyer. You can lose your kids this way.

OP is almost certainly not going to lose her kids over this one incident. CPS is loathe to remove kids from custody, well beyond the point when they should.

That said, OP, please don’t do this again. You can’t deliberately and repeatedly bruise your kids in this country, regardless of your personal cultural beliefs.

Absolutely she can. CPS can determine that because she insists on performing this abusive act and doesn't see it as abusive, they can make the determination to remove the children. The OP is now calling more mandated reporters to likely get her reported again. CPS has a ton of power. Anyone that deals with CPS knows that you take them 100% seriously.

Having been a CPS worker, I had one family who engaged in coining but those kids were not in care because of the coining but because of mental health and substance abuse as well as severe neglect. The mom wasn't able to care for the kids. These kind of things get called in regularly. They are no abusive in and of itself. Stop being dramatic. It was appropriate for the day care to call but more than likely, worst case CPS will come in, talk to her, do a safety plan and help her understand why not to do it (but she can tell the worker she didn't know and has since spoken to others who explained its not an ok practice here) and then do a follow up visit or two. It would be very unlikely that CPS would provide ongoing services and even less likely to remove a child over this.

OP made a mistake. It is a well known cultural practice in some parts of Asia. Stop scaring them when its probably just ruled out. If CPS was going to remove or really concerned they would have come same day/next day. We live in a very diverse area.

At no time has the OP stated that it was a mistake. The OP is insisting that it is a part of her culture. If she continues down this path how would you handle it in CPS? Allow the child to continue to be bruised?

It is part of her culture.

Female genital cutting is also a part of some cultures. I guess CPS should allow that as well?

I think Botox should be outlawed. People should not be allowed to inject poison into other people.

Botox is used for children and adults with cerebral palsy and other disorders to free up muscle groups and allow walking and ease of movement. It has medical uses. Please stop talking out of your ass.

Its also used a lot for migraines and tjm (as is acupuncture and cupping).

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Anonymous wrote:This is op. I did not know what that calls in English, and I google up, and yes, I did "coining". I was worried and left a message for the regular pediatrician to tell her what has happened and what I did. My kid does not take any herbal medicine and broths that I boiled for hours. I have not got any call from CPS, and I have learned my lesson. But you know what, coining does help to improve better health.

OP your pediatrician is a mandated reporter too. If the pediatrician disagrees with your cultural practices you will now have multiple people reporting you. You really need a lawyer. You can lose your kids this way.

OP is almost certainly not going to lose her kids over this one incident. CPS is loathe to remove kids from custody, well beyond the point when they should.

That said, OP, please don’t do this again. You can’t deliberately and repeatedly bruise your kids in this country, regardless of your personal cultural beliefs.

Absolutely she can. CPS can determine that because she insists on performing this abusive act and doesn't see it as abusive, they can make the determination to remove the children. The OP is now calling more mandated reporters to likely get her reported again. CPS has a ton of power. Anyone that deals with CPS knows that you take them 100% seriously.

Having been a CPS worker, I had one family who engaged in coining but those kids were not in care because of the coining but because of mental health and substance abuse as well as severe neglect. The mom wasn't able to care for the kids. These kind of things get called in regularly. They are no abusive in and of itself. Stop being dramatic. It was appropriate for the day care to call but more than likely, worst case CPS will come in, talk to her, do a safety plan and help her understand why not to do it (but she can tell the worker she didn't know and has since spoken to others who explained its not an ok practice here) and then do a follow up visit or two. It would be very unlikely that CPS would provide ongoing services and even less likely to remove a child over this.

OP made a mistake. It is a well known cultural practice in some parts of Asia. Stop scaring them when its probably just ruled out. If CPS was going to remove or really concerned they would have come same day/next day. We live in a very diverse area.

At no time has the OP stated that it was a mistake. The OP is insisting that it is a part of her culture. If she continues down this path how would you handle it in CPS? Allow the child to continue to be bruised?

It is part of her culture.

Female genital cutting is also a part of some cultures. I guess CPS should allow that as well?

Male genital cutting is part of American culture and CPS does absolutely nothing about it, so get off your high horse.

Right. Because they’re exactly the same.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no cultural thing that leaves a deep purple bruise on your child. Good for them for reporting. CPS will contact you and go from there.

Yes there is. It’s called cupping and is practiced in China and perhaps other countries. It does not actually have any health benefits—sorry OP—but many people innocently believe it does. They need to be educated that it is folk medicine not real medicine but many times it does not stop them. But it is not intentional child abuse. It’s a cultural problem.

Cupping is a form of massage. It used by many athletes. It helps my muscular pain after a hard workout, and it is offered at many massage/chiro/acupuncture clinics/gyms. No it's not a drug and won't mask pain like OTCs, but that doesn't mean it's not effective for muscle pain.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no cultural thing that leaves a deep purple bruise on your child. Good for them for reporting. CPS will contact you and go from there.

Yes there is. It’s called cupping and is practiced in China and perhaps other countries. It does not actually have any health benefits—sorry OP—but many people innocently believe it does. They need to be educated that it is folk medicine not real medicine but many times it does not stop them. But it is not intentional child abuse. It’s a cultural problem.

Anonymous wrote:This is the first time ever I got reported to child protection service in Montgomery county from a daycare. I have a few children. I don't want to reveal too much details in case I am not supposed to ask/share on this forum or affect possible investigation. What happens is daycare did their due responsibilities and called CPS because they saw deep purple bruises on my child's body part. And, I left a note in his backpack upon dropoff that it was a cultural thing that's for good health (look terrible but actually painless), and my child is fine. I swear it is not physical abuse and I love my child to death. The reason I knew because daycare notified me about that. I called DH to tell him about that, and he is not worried at all. I am really worried about it. What will I expect? Are they planning to do home visit, call pediatrician or asking me to get my child checked out, or nothing will happen? Anyone has gone through that before?

Anonymous wrote:There is no cultural thing that leaves a deep purple bruise on your child. Good for them for reporting. CPS will contact you and go from there.

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Anonymous wrote:This is op. I did not know what that calls in English, and I google up, and yes, I did "coining". I was worried and left a message for the regular pediatrician to tell her what has happened and what I did. My kid does not take any herbal medicine and broths that I boiled for hours. I have not got any call from CPS, and I have learned my lesson. But you know what, coining does help to improve better health.

OP your pediatrician is a mandated reporter too. If the pediatrician disagrees with your cultural practices you will now have multiple people reporting you. You really need a lawyer. You can lose your kids this way.

OP is almost certainly not going to lose her kids over this one incident. CPS is loathe to remove kids from custody, well beyond the point when they should.

That said, OP, please don’t do this again. You can’t deliberately and repeatedly bruise your kids in this country, regardless of your personal cultural beliefs.

Absolutely she can. CPS can determine that because she insists on performing this abusive act and doesn't see it as abusive, they can make the determination to remove the children. The OP is now calling more mandated reporters to likely get her reported again. CPS has a ton of power. Anyone that deals with CPS knows that you take them 100% seriously.

Having been a CPS worker, I had one family who engaged in coining but those kids were not in care because of the coining but because of mental health and substance abuse as well as severe neglect. The mom wasn't able to care for the kids. These kind of things get called in regularly. They are no abusive in and of itself. Stop being dramatic. It was appropriate for the day care to call but more than likely, worst case CPS will come in, talk to her, do a safety plan and help her understand why not to do it (but she can tell the worker she didn't know and has since spoken to others who explained its not an ok practice here) and then do a follow up visit or two. It would be very unlikely that CPS would provide ongoing services and even less likely to remove a child over this.

OP made a mistake. It is a well known cultural practice in some parts of Asia. Stop scaring them when its probably just ruled out. If CPS was going to remove or really concerned they would have come same day/next day. We live in a very diverse area.

At no time has the OP stated that it was a mistake. The OP is insisting that it is a part of her culture. If she continues down this path how would you handle it in CPS? Allow the child to continue to be bruised?

It is part of her culture.

Female genital cutting is also a part of some cultures. I guess CPS should allow that as well?

Male genital cutting is part of American culture and CPS does absolutely nothing about it, so get off your high horse.

Right. Because they’re exactly the same.

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Anonymous wrote:How inexperienced are they that they have never heard on mongolian spots!!

These spots appear at birth or soon after. They go away within a few months. One of my kids had it on his tailbone area. He didn't start daycare until 6 months, so no issues there. Is this what op was talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:This is op. I did not know what that calls in English, and I google up, and yes, I did "coining". I was worried and left a message for the regular pediatrician to tell her what has happened and what I did. My kid does not take any herbal medicine and broths that I boiled for hours. I have not got any call from CPS, and I have learned my lesson. But you know what, coining does help to improve better health.

OP your pediatrician is a mandated reporter too. If the pediatrician disagrees with your cultural practices you will now have multiple people reporting you. You really need a lawyer. You can lose your kids this way.

OP is almost certainly not going to lose her kids over this one incident. CPS is loathe to remove kids from custody, well beyond the point when they should.

That said, OP, please don’t do this again. You can’t deliberately and repeatedly bruise your kids in this country, regardless of your personal cultural beliefs.

Absolutely she can. CPS can determine that because she insists on performing this abusive act and doesn't see it as abusive, they can make the determination to remove the children. The OP is now calling more mandated reporters to likely get her reported again. CPS has a ton of power. Anyone that deals with CPS knows that you take them 100% seriously.

Having been a CPS worker, I had one family who engaged in coining but those kids were not in care because of the coining but because of mental health and substance abuse as well as severe neglect. The mom wasn't able to care for the kids. These kind of things get called in regularly. They are no abusive in and of itself. Stop being dramatic. It was appropriate for the day care to call but more than likely, worst case CPS will come in, talk to her, do a safety plan and help her understand why not to do it (but she can tell the worker she didn't know and has since spoken to others who explained its not an ok practice here) and then do a follow up visit or two. It would be very unlikely that CPS would provide ongoing services and even less likely to remove a child over this.

OP made a mistake. It is a well known cultural practice in some parts of Asia. Stop scaring them when its probably just ruled out. If CPS was going to remove or really concerned they would have come same day/next day. We live in a very diverse area.

At no time has the OP stated that it was a mistake. The OP is insisting that it is a part of her culture. If she continues down this path how would you handle it in CPS? Allow the child to continue to be bruised?

It is part of her culture.

Female genital cutting is also a part of some cultures. I guess CPS should allow that as well?

Male genital cutting is part of American culture and CPS does absolutely nothing about it, so get off your high horse.

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Anonymous wrote:This is op. I did not know what that calls in English, and I google up, and yes, I did "coining". I was worried and left a message for the regular pediatrician to tell her what has happened and what I did. My kid does not take any herbal medicine and broths that I boiled for hours. I have not got any call from CPS, and I have learned my lesson. But you know what, coining does help to improve better health.

OP your pediatrician is a mandated reporter too. If the pediatrician disagrees with your cultural practices you will now have multiple people reporting you. You really need a lawyer. You can lose your kids this way.

OP is almost certainly not going to lose her kids over this one incident. CPS is loathe to remove kids from custody, well beyond the point when they should.

That said, OP, please don’t do this again. You can’t deliberately and repeatedly bruise your kids in this country, regardless of your personal cultural beliefs.

Absolutely she can. CPS can determine that because she insists on performing this abusive act and doesn't see it as abusive, they can make the determination to remove the children. The OP is now calling more mandated reporters to likely get her reported again. CPS has a ton of power. Anyone that deals with CPS knows that you take them 100% seriously.

Having been a CPS worker, I had one family who engaged in coining but those kids were not in care because of the coining but because of mental health and substance abuse as well as severe neglect. The mom wasn't able to care for the kids. These kind of things get called in regularly. They are no abusive in and of itself. Stop being dramatic. It was appropriate for the day care to call but more than likely, worst case CPS will come in, talk to her, do a safety plan and help her understand why not to do it (but she can tell the worker she didn't know and has since spoken to others who explained its not an ok practice here) and then do a follow up visit or two. It would be very unlikely that CPS would provide ongoing services and even less likely to remove a child over this.

OP made a mistake. It is a well known cultural practice in some parts of Asia. Stop scaring them when its probably just ruled out. If CPS was going to remove or really concerned they would have come same day/next day. We live in a very diverse area.

At no time has the OP stated that it was a mistake. The OP is insisting that it is a part of her culture. If she continues down this path how would you handle it in CPS? Allow the child to continue to be bruised?

It is part of her culture.

Female genital cutting is also a part of some cultures. I guess CPS should allow that as well?

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Anonymous wrote:This is op. I did not know what that calls in English, and I google up, and yes, I did "coining". I was worried and left a message for the regular pediatrician to tell her what has happened and what I did. My kid does not take any herbal medicine and broths that I boiled for hours. I have not got any call from CPS, and I have learned my lesson. But you know what, coining does help to improve better health.

OP your pediatrician is a mandated reporter too. If the pediatrician disagrees with your cultural practices you will now have multiple people reporting you. You really need a lawyer. You can lose your kids this way.

OP is almost certainly not going to lose her kids over this one incident. CPS is loathe to remove kids from custody, well beyond the point when they should.

That said, OP, please don’t do this again. You can’t deliberately and repeatedly bruise your kids in this country, regardless of your personal cultural beliefs.

Absolutely she can. CPS can determine that because she insists on performing this abusive act and doesn't see it as abusive, they can make the determination to remove the children. The OP is now calling more mandated reporters to likely get her reported again. CPS has a ton of power. Anyone that deals with CPS knows that you take them 100% seriously.

Having been a CPS worker, I had one family who engaged in coining but those kids were not in care because of the coining but because of mental health and substance abuse as well as severe neglect. The mom wasn't able to care for the kids. These kind of things get called in regularly. They are no abusive in and of itself. Stop being dramatic. It was appropriate for the day care to call but more than likely, worst case CPS will come in, talk to her, do a safety plan and help her understand why not to do it (but she can tell the worker she didn't know and has since spoken to others who explained its not an ok practice here) and then do a follow up visit or two. It would be very unlikely that CPS would provide ongoing services and even less likely to remove a child over this.

OP made a mistake. It is a well known cultural practice in some parts of Asia. Stop scaring them when its probably just ruled out. If CPS was going to remove or really concerned they would have come same day/next day. We live in a very diverse area.

At no time has the OP stated that it was a mistake. The OP is insisting that it is a part of her culture. If she continues down this path how would you handle it in CPS? Allow the child to continue to be bruised?

It is part of her culture.

Female genital cutting is also a part of some cultures. I guess CPS should allow that as well?

I think Botox should be outlawed. People should not be allowed to inject poison into other people.

Botox is used for children and adults with cerebral palsy and other disorders to free up muscle groups and allow walking and ease of movement. It has medical uses. Please stop talking out of your ass.