Anonymous wrote:Just OK for all the hype about Latin academics.

No school admitting in the single digits on the list...Stanford, MIT, Cal Tech, private Ivies (one student to Ivy-public Cornell), Univ Chicago, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Bowdoin, Northwestern, Pomona, military academies etc.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/lowest-acceptance-rate

I wasn’t aware that there was any hype about Latin academics (other than from Latin boosters here).

For example, USN&WR ranks it the #14 public middle school in DC behind KIPP Aim Academy.

https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/middle-schools/district-of-columbia

Anonymous wrote:One of the (IMO) positives of the Latin college counseling office is that they strive to help kids find the right "fit" for the right price, instead of trying to push kids into taking on large amounts of debt at high profile schools. They do a lot of counseling about which schools are "no loan" schools, and which schools offer great aid options, as well as being very on top of the DC TAG program. The college counselors also spend a lot of time educating students on potential scholarship opportunities. For parents who have $300k+ per kid socked away in 529s to cover HYP, that might not matter, but to many Latin families it does.

We found the college counseling office to be excellent. And our DD got much more support than our friends' kids at private schools. We were so impressed.

One of the (IMO) positives of the Latin college counseling office is that they strive to help kids find the right "fit" for the right price, instead of trying to push kids into taking on large amounts of debt at high profile schools. They do a lot of counseling about which schools are "no loan" schools, and which schools offer great aid options, as well as being very on top of the DC TAG program. The college counselors also spend a lot of time educating students on potential scholarship opportunities. For parents who have $300k+ per kid socked away in 529s to cover HYP, that might not matter, but to many Latin families it does.

Anonymous wrote:Just OK for all the hype about Latin academics.

No school admitting in the single digits on the list...Stanford, MIT, Cal Tech, private Ivies (one student to Ivy-public Cornell), Univ Chicago, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Bowdoin, Northwestern, Pomona, military academies etc.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/lowest-acceptance-rate

Cornell is private.

Just OK for all the hype about Latin academics.

No school admitting in the single digits on the list...Stanford, MIT, Cal Tech, private Ivies (one student to Ivy-public Cornell), Univ Chicago, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Bowdoin, Northwestern, Pomona, military academies etc.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/lowest-acceptance-rate

Ugh. Not great.

Anonymous wrote:What are Latin's admissions actually like? I've seen BASIS (and Walls & Wilson) have admits to top schools, but haven't heard anything about Latin. If my kids want to go for a public "ivy" or a 4-10 SLAC, that's totally fine... but I want them to have at least a shot at HYPS if they want it.

Here is the list of acceptances for the Latin Class of 2020:

Agnes Scott College
Albright College
AMDA College and Conservatory of the Performing Arts, Los Angeles Campus
American University
Amherst College
Arizona State University – Tempe (Honors College)
Auburn University
Bard College
Bard College Berlin
Bates College
Belmont Abbey College
Benedict College
Blinn College
Boston University (Kilachand Honors College)
Bowie State University
Brandeis University
Brigham Young University – Idaho
Bucknell University
California Polytechnic State University – San Luis Obispo
Capitol Technology University
Catholic University of America
Chatham University
Clark Atlanta University
Clark University
Colgate University
College of William and Mary
Cooper Union For The Advancement of Science and Art
Coppin State University
Cornell University
D.C. MPD Cadet Corps
Davidson College
Delaware State University
Delaware Valley University
DePaul University
Dickinson College
Drexel University
East Carolina University
Elizabeth City State University
Fayetteville State University
Fisk University
Florida A&M University
Franklin & Marshall College
Frostburg State University
George Mason University
Georgetown University
Georgia Institute of Technology – Main Campus
Georgia State University
Grinnell College
Guilford College
Hamilton College
Hampton University
Harrisburg University of Science & Technology
Hartwick College
Hilbert College
Hobart William Smith Colleges
Hollins University
Hood College
Howard University
Ithaca College
Johnson & Wales University – Providence
Juniata College
Kalamazoo College
Kent State University at Kent
Lawrence University
Le Moyne College
Lewis & Clark College
Lincoln University of Pennsylvania
Livingstone College
Longwood University
Longwood University (Honors College)
Louisiana State University (Honors College)
Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College
Loyola University New Orleans
Marshall University
Mary Baldwin University
Maryland Institute College of Art
Massachusetts College of Art and Design
Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts
McGill University
Michigan State University
Middlebury College
Montgomery College
Morgan State University
Mount Holyoke College
Norfolk State University
North Carolina A&T State University
North Carolina Central University
North Carolina State University at Raleigh
Northeastern University
Northern Virginia Community College
Oberlin College
Oglethorpe University
Old Dominion University
Pace University – New York City
Pennsylvania State University – Main Campus
Pepperdine University
Prince George’s Community College
Radford University
Randolph College
Reed College
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Rider University
Rochester Institute of Technology
Saint Louis University
Salisbury University
Santa Clara University
Savannah College of Art and Design
School of the Art Institute of Chicago
Shepherd University
Simmons College
Skidmore College
Smith College
Southern Methodist University
Spelman College
St. John’s University – New York
Stockton University
SUNY Buffalo State
SUNY Morrisville State College
Swarthmore College
Syracuse University
Temple University
Texas A&M University – College Station
The American University of Paris
The American University of Rome
The Evergreen State College
The University of Alabama
The University of Findlay
The University of Tennessee – Knoxville
Trinity College
Trinity Washington University
Tuskegee University
Union College
University of California – Berkeley
University of California – Irvine
University of California – Los Angeles
University of California – San Diego
University of California – Santa Barbara
University of Colorado – Boulder
University of Connecticut
University of Hartford
University of Kentucky
University of Maryland – Baltimore (Honors College)
University of Maryland – College Park (Honors College)
University of Maryland – Eastern Shore
University of Massachusetts – Amherst (Honors College)
University of Massachusetts – Boston
University of New Hampshire – Main Campus
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
University of North Carolina at Greensboro
University of North Carolina at Pembroke
University of North Texas
University of Pittsburgh – Pittsburgh Campus
University of Rochester
University of San Diego
University of San Francisco
University of the District of Columbia
University of Vermont
University of Virginia – Main Campus (Echols Scholars Program)
University of Washington – Seattle Campus
University of Wisconsin – Stout
University of Wisconsin – Madison
Ursinus College
Vassar College
Virginia Commonwealth University
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
Virginia State University
Washington College
Washington University in St. Louis
Wellesley College
Wentworth Institute of Technology
Wesleyan University
Whittier College
Winston-Salem State University
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Xavier University
Xavier University of Louisiana
York College of Pennsylvania

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, it's not just one person on this thread who had their doubts about Latin's academics, extra-curriculars, college admissions and so forth.

We didn't put in for Latin in the 5th grade lottery after visiting pre-Covid and neither did some of our Capitol Hill parent friends with children in our oldest child's 5th grade cohort. Extra-curricular options seemed very weak for the younger middle school student, and want our children studying a modern language in middle school, not Latin. The school's emphasis was clearly on the high school experience.

Um, okay, Capitol Hill parents. Tell me, are you all going to Jefferson? Applying to BASIS? Or private? ‘Cause this CH parent and ever other parent I know would be delighted to match with Latin, especially the main campus.

I know lots of CH parents who rank BASIS over Latin. It’s not the norm, but it’s not unusual either. I know a couple who decided to stick with SH rather than lottery, but those are outliers for sure.

We live on CH and didn't even bother to lottery for Latin; we just put down Basis. If your kid is at all into academics, the choice is clear.

But the same can be true for most schools. Even if a Middle, like Deal, offers Chinese, most schools lack offerings beyond AP. Latin offers some Language classes beyond AP. Latin is certainly not worse than Walls, which started the school year off without any French teacher. And even at DCI, students adopt a more traditional schedule with 1 language class a day. plus an elective if they want.

Yes, but language instruction at Latin isn't a selling point. If a kid is coming out of a DC public language immersion elementary school, Latin is happy to let their skills in Spanish, Chinese or French lapse between 5th and 8th grades. Families have to keep up with modern languages on their own in middle school, high school instruction could hardly be described as advanced, and Latin students seldom knock it out of the park on AP language tests.

Latin students can start taking a foreign language in 8th grade if their grades are good enough (I think you need to have a B average, but am not sure.

+1. Latin is hardly the be and end all for CH families after ES.

We know many Cap Hill public school families who didn't put in for Latin or BASIS for MS. They went in various directions. Those who could afford to generally selected expensive private middle schools. Others stuck with in-boundary schools, Eliot-Hine, Stuart Hobson or Jefferson or lotteried into Hardy. Some chose parochial schools in NW or Arlington (10-15K), or the Friends Community School in College Park (less than 20K). Others homeschooled. Some went for other charters, Inspired Teaching, Two Rivers, DCI. Some simply moved out of the area, at least for MS, including by taking overseas assignments with government agencies or the military.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, it's not just one person on this thread who had their doubts about Latin's academics, extra-curriculars, college admissions and so forth.

We didn't put in for Latin in the 5th grade lottery after visiting pre-Covid and neither did some of our Capitol Hill parent friends with children in our oldest child's 5th grade cohort. Extra-curricular options seemed very weak for the younger middle school student, and want our children studying a modern language in middle school, not Latin. The school's emphasis was clearly on the high school experience.

Um, okay, Capitol Hill parents. Tell me, are you all going to Jefferson? Applying to BASIS? Or private? ‘Cause this CH parent and ever other parent I know would be delighted to match with Latin, especially the main campus.

I know lots of CH parents who rank BASIS over Latin. It’s not the norm, but it’s not unusual either. I know a couple who decided to stick with SH rather than lottery, but those are outliers for sure.

Anonymous wrote:Come on, it's not just one person on this thread who had their doubts about Latin's academics, extra-curriculars, college admissions and so forth.

We didn't put in for Latin in the 5th grade lottery after visiting pre-Covid and neither did some of our Capitol Hill parent friends with children in our oldest child's 5th grade cohort. Extra-curricular options seemed very weak for the younger middle school student, and want our children studying a modern language in middle school, not Latin. The school's emphasis was clearly on the high school experience.

Um, okay, Capitol Hill parents. Tell me, are you all going to Jefferson? Applying to BASIS? Or private? ‘Cause this CH parent and ever other parent I know would be delighted to match with Latin, especially the main campus.