Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 16:32     Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS

FCPS and MCPS have much more relaxed and fair evaluations - no impact type evaluations - and their teacher quality is probably better than DCPS. DCPS pays higher but is a crap district to work for in so many ways
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 16:27     Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think there are some teachers and a small group of parents who are VERY VERY angry at DCPS. Then there are others who see things that could be improved. The V.V. Angry people place all blame on the mayor, but don't really have any comprehension of how changing mayoral control would solve any of the problems. They are just mad. It's like the people that were so mad that there was a Black president that they voted for Trump. It's not like he solved any problem at all, but that vote satisfied their need to "stick it to authority" or something.


You’re missing some key parts of the puzzle. The people behind “End Mayoral Control” are the ones who are very unhappy about educational reforms that allowed for charters in DC and accountability for DC teachers, in the form of standardized assessments (PARCC) and IMPACT, which rates teachers on their effectiveness. These are seen as outgrowths of mayoral control and other reforms accelerated by Fenty/Rhee. One big unhappy group is the WTU.

The other piece of the puzzle is the mayor race. CM Robert White is running against Bowser and is using “end mayoral control” as a way to gain points against her by hand-waving about what a terrible job she is doing.

So yeah - If you want to go back to the days when we had no charter options, no way to measure the effectiveness of instruction, and no way to fire bad teachers … end mayoral control!


Ma’am sir are you an educator or in education? If not, then you have no platform to stand on in regards to Impact and PARCC


Do you have an actual argument?


Sure. You can read the 50+ page American university study on Impact, or any literature on PARCC.

Or you could spend six months in any DCPS school and see how biased IMPACT is depending on the admin.

Or you could continue to bury your head in the sand and think teachers are idiots who should be told what to do by a mayoral system that dehumanizes them.

But thanks for checking. I don’t really know why I bothered responding the DCUM tea leaves make it very clear where you all stand


I get rated every year at my job. almost everyone does.


Do you get rated on stuff that you have absolutely no control over? Why do you think Ballou, Woodson and Anacostia HS keep losing math teachers? One reason is that they get rated on impact for how well they are teaching grade level math (9th, 10th, or whatever grade level they teach) when the reality is that kids often come into HS at a 4th or 5th grade math level.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 09:02     Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS

wasn't IMPACT a system negotiated by the unnamed organization? And it provides bonuses to teachers for performing well?

It seems like those that are opposed to a system that was negotiated by their representatives are the ones that are not performing well in that system.

Why wouldn't those who take issue with IMPACT be angry with the representative body that negotiated it?
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2021 08:17     Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think there are some teachers and a small group of parents who are VERY VERY angry at DCPS. Then there are others who see things that could be improved. The V.V. Angry people place all blame on the mayor, but don't really have any comprehension of how changing mayoral control would solve any of the problems. They are just mad. It's like the people that were so mad that there was a Black president that they voted for Trump. It's not like he solved any problem at all, but that vote satisfied their need to "stick it to authority" or something.


You’re missing some key parts of the puzzle. The people behind “End Mayoral Control” are the ones who are very unhappy about educational reforms that allowed for charters in DC and accountability for DC teachers, in the form of standardized assessments (PARCC) and IMPACT, which rates teachers on their effectiveness. These are seen as outgrowths of mayoral control and other reforms accelerated by Fenty/Rhee. One big unhappy group is the WTU.

The other piece of the puzzle is the mayor race. CM Robert White is running against Bowser and is using “end mayoral control” as a way to gain points against her by hand-waving about what a terrible job she is doing.

So yeah - If you want to go back to the days when we had no charter options, no way to measure the effectiveness of instruction, and no way to fire bad teachers … end mayoral control!


Ma’am sir are you an educator or in education? If not, then you have no platform to stand on in regards to Impact and PARCC


Do you have an actual argument?


Sure. You can read the 50+ page American university study on Impact, or any literature on PARCC.

Or you could spend six months in any DCPS school and see how biased IMPACT is depending on the admin.

Or you could continue to bury your head in the sand and think teachers are idiots who should be told what to do by a mayoral system that dehumanizes them.

But thanks for checking. I don’t really know why I bothered responding the DCUM tea leaves make it very clear where you all stand


I get rated every year at my job. almost everyone does.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2021 22:51     Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think there are some teachers and a small group of parents who are VERY VERY angry at DCPS. Then there are others who see things that could be improved. The V.V. Angry people place all blame on the mayor, but don't really have any comprehension of how changing mayoral control would solve any of the problems. They are just mad. It's like the people that were so mad that there was a Black president that they voted for Trump. It's not like he solved any problem at all, but that vote satisfied their need to "stick it to authority" or something.


You’re missing some key parts of the puzzle. The people behind “End Mayoral Control” are the ones who are very unhappy about educational reforms that allowed for charters in DC and accountability for DC teachers, in the form of standardized assessments (PARCC) and IMPACT, which rates teachers on their effectiveness. These are seen as outgrowths of mayoral control and other reforms accelerated by Fenty/Rhee. One big unhappy group is the WTU.

The other piece of the puzzle is the mayor race. CM Robert White is running against Bowser and is using “end mayoral control” as a way to gain points against her by hand-waving about what a terrible job she is doing.

So yeah - If you want to go back to the days when we had no charter options, no way to measure the effectiveness of instruction, and no way to fire bad teachers … end mayoral control!


Ma’am sir are you an educator or in education? If not, then you have no platform to stand on in regards to Impact and PARCC


Do you have an actual argument?


Sure. You can read the 50+ page American university study on Impact, or any literature on PARCC.

Or you could spend six months in any DCPS school and see how biased IMPACT is depending on the admin.

Or you could continue to bury your head in the sand and think teachers are idiots who should be told what to do by a mayoral system that dehumanizes them.

But thanks for checking. I don’t really know why I bothered responding the DCUM tea leaves make it very clear where you all stand
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2021 17:47     Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think there are some teachers and a small group of parents who are VERY VERY angry at DCPS. Then there are others who see things that could be improved. The V.V. Angry people place all blame on the mayor, but don't really have any comprehension of how changing mayoral control would solve any of the problems. They are just mad. It's like the people that were so mad that there was a Black president that they voted for Trump. It's not like he solved any problem at all, but that vote satisfied their need to "stick it to authority" or something.


You’re missing some key parts of the puzzle. The people behind “End Mayoral Control” are the ones who are very unhappy about educational reforms that allowed for charters in DC and accountability for DC teachers, in the form of standardized assessments (PARCC) and IMPACT, which rates teachers on their effectiveness. These are seen as outgrowths of mayoral control and other reforms accelerated by Fenty/Rhee. One big unhappy group is the WTU.

The other piece of the puzzle is the mayor race. CM Robert White is running against Bowser and is using “end mayoral control” as a way to gain points against her by hand-waving about what a terrible job she is doing.

So yeah - If you want to go back to the days when we had no charter options, no way to measure the effectiveness of instruction, and no way to fire bad teachers … end mayoral control!


Ma’am sir are you an educator or in education? If not, then you have no platform to stand on in regards to Impact and PARCC


Do you have an actual argument?
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2021 17:46     Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think there are some teachers and a small group of parents who are VERY VERY angry at DCPS. Then there are others who see things that could be improved. The V.V. Angry people place all blame on the mayor, but don't really have any comprehension of how changing mayoral control would solve any of the problems. They are just mad. It's like the people that were so mad that there was a Black president that they voted for Trump. It's not like he solved any problem at all, but that vote satisfied their need to "stick it to authority" or something.


You’re missing some key parts of the puzzle. The people behind “End Mayoral Control” are the ones who are very unhappy about educational reforms that allowed for charters in DC and accountability for DC teachers, in the form of standardized assessments (PARCC) and IMPACT, which rates teachers on their effectiveness. These are seen as outgrowths of mayoral control and other reforms accelerated by Fenty/Rhee. One big unhappy group is the WTU.

The other piece of the puzzle is the mayor race. CM Robert White is running against Bowser and is using “end mayoral control” as a way to gain points against her by hand-waving about what a terrible job she is doing.

So yeah - If you want to go back to the days when we had no charter options, no way to measure the effectiveness of instruction, and no way to fire bad teachers … end mayoral control!


+1. An unmentionable organization would strongly prefer that it becomes harder to fire any teachers. And of course they would prefer to eliminate a non-unionized competing workforce. Bad for students, good for unnamed organization.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2021 17:46     Subject: testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS

Anonymous wrote:Really incredible to see teachers portrayed at villains
now.

What a world we live in.


I don’t think teachers are villains. I just don’t think a school board controlled by a teacher’s union is a good way to run DC schools. My kid is still struggling to recover from school closures.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2021 16:24     Subject: testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS

Really incredible to see teachers portrayed at villains
now.

What a world we live in.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2021 15:53     Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think there are some teachers and a small group of parents who are VERY VERY angry at DCPS. Then there are others who see things that could be improved. The V.V. Angry people place all blame on the mayor, but don't really have any comprehension of how changing mayoral control would solve any of the problems. They are just mad. It's like the people that were so mad that there was a Black president that they voted for Trump. It's not like he solved any problem at all, but that vote satisfied their need to "stick it to authority" or something.


You’re missing some key parts of the puzzle. The people behind “End Mayoral Control” are the ones who are very unhappy about educational reforms that allowed for charters in DC and accountability for DC teachers, in the form of standardized assessments (PARCC) and IMPACT, which rates teachers on their effectiveness. These are seen as outgrowths of mayoral control and other reforms accelerated by Fenty/Rhee. One big unhappy group is the WTU.

The other piece of the puzzle is the mayor race. CM Robert White is running against Bowser and is using “end mayoral control” as a way to gain points against her by hand-waving about what a terrible job she is doing.

So yeah - If you want to go back to the days when we had no charter options, no way to measure the effectiveness of instruction, and no way to fire bad teachers … end mayoral control!


Ma’am sir are you an educator or in education? If not, then you have no platform to stand on in regards to Impact and PARCC


lol! we’ll, thanks for letting us know how you think schools should run - by teachers, for teachers.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2021 15:52     Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think there are some teachers and a small group of parents who are VERY VERY angry at DCPS. Then there are others who see things that could be improved. The V.V. Angry people place all blame on the mayor, but don't really have any comprehension of how changing mayoral control would solve any of the problems. They are just mad. It's like the people that were so mad that there was a Black president that they voted for Trump. It's not like he solved any problem at all, but that vote satisfied their need to "stick it to authority" or something.


? The mayor framed mayoral control as important bc “schools weren’t getting textbooks on time.”

This year alone:
Many schools don’t have functioning hvac
Many schools don’t have water
Many schools have staffing shortages
Teachers can’t get access to their contractual supply funds bc OCTO can’t figure out how to distribute without getting hacked

These are four major problems that could probably be satisfied if it wasn’t one big circle of people being appointed into patronage jobs by a mayor, and instead a system of checks and balances.


Much prefer patronage jobs as opposed to a union-controlled OSSE and/or DCPS. In case you missed it the union shut down the schools. That’s kinda a bigger deal than anything else.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2021 15:46     Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think there are some teachers and a small group of parents who are VERY VERY angry at DCPS. Then there are others who see things that could be improved. The V.V. Angry people place all blame on the mayor, but don't really have any comprehension of how changing mayoral control would solve any of the problems. They are just mad. It's like the people that were so mad that there was a Black president that they voted for Trump. It's not like he solved any problem at all, but that vote satisfied their need to "stick it to authority" or something.


You’re missing some key parts of the puzzle. The people behind “End Mayoral Control” are the ones who are very unhappy about educational reforms that allowed for charters in DC and accountability for DC teachers, in the form of standardized assessments (PARCC) and IMPACT, which rates teachers on their effectiveness. These are seen as outgrowths of mayoral control and other reforms accelerated by Fenty/Rhee. One big unhappy group is the WTU.

The other piece of the puzzle is the mayor race. CM Robert White is running against Bowser and is using “end mayoral control” as a way to gain points against her by hand-waving about what a terrible job she is doing.

So yeah - If you want to go back to the days when we had no charter options, no way to measure the effectiveness of instruction, and no way to fire bad teachers … end mayoral control!


Ma’am sir are you an educator or in education? If not, then you have no platform to stand on in regards to Impact and PARCC
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2021 15:45     Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS

Anonymous wrote:I think there are some teachers and a small group of parents who are VERY VERY angry at DCPS. Then there are others who see things that could be improved. The V.V. Angry people place all blame on the mayor, but don't really have any comprehension of how changing mayoral control would solve any of the problems. They are just mad. It's like the people that were so mad that there was a Black president that they voted for Trump. It's not like he solved any problem at all, but that vote satisfied their need to "stick it to authority" or something.


? The mayor framed mayoral control as important bc “schools weren’t getting textbooks on time.”

This year alone:
Many schools don’t have functioning hvac
Many schools don’t have water
Many schools have staffing shortages
Teachers can’t get access to their contractual supply funds bc OCTO can’t figure out how to distribute without getting hacked

These are four major problems that could probably be satisfied if it wasn’t one big circle of people being appointed into patronage jobs by a mayor, and instead a system of checks and balances.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2021 15:42     Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS

Anonymous wrote:I think there are some teachers and a small group of parents who are VERY VERY angry at DCPS. Then there are others who see things that could be improved. The V.V. Angry people place all blame on the mayor, but don't really have any comprehension of how changing mayoral control would solve any of the problems. They are just mad. It's like the people that were so mad that there was a Black president that they voted for Trump. It's not like he solved any problem at all, but that vote satisfied their need to "stick it to authority" or something.


You’re missing some key parts of the puzzle. The people behind “End Mayoral Control” are the ones who are very unhappy about educational reforms that allowed for charters in DC and accountability for DC teachers, in the form of standardized assessments (PARCC) and IMPACT, which rates teachers on their effectiveness. These are seen as outgrowths of mayoral control and other reforms accelerated by Fenty/Rhee. One big unhappy group is the WTU.

The other piece of the puzzle is the mayor race. CM Robert White is running against Bowser and is using “end mayoral control” as a way to gain points against her by hand-waving about what a terrible job she is doing.

So yeah - If you want to go back to the days when we had no charter options, no way to measure the effectiveness of instruction, and no way to fire bad teachers … end mayoral control!
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2021 12:40     Subject: Re:testify to SAVE Mayoral control of DCPS

I think there are some teachers and a small group of parents who are VERY VERY angry at DCPS. Then there are others who see things that could be improved. The V.V. Angry people place all blame on the mayor, but don't really have any comprehension of how changing mayoral control would solve any of the problems. They are just mad. It's like the people that were so mad that there was a Black president that they voted for Trump. It's not like he solved any problem at all, but that vote satisfied their need to "stick it to authority" or something.