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Anonymous wrote:The PP who talks about propaganda is just so wrong. I am also from one of the former communist countries (like the two PPs above me) and I don’t consume any conservative news. But it’s enough for me to listen to NPR to have a perfect deja vu.

One is supposed to follow the party line, and god forbid they disagree or just have a shadow of a doubt. It’s not the right wing press that writes about cancellations!

Then, there are certain minorities who are preferred to other minorities. It reminds me of how back in the day one had to be of “worker or peasant descent” to be eligible for things.

Trust me we have seen it all. We don’t need propaganda to see where all this is going.

The propaganda is not fed to you through conservative TV it’s fed to you through TV in the language of your country of origin.

I am one of the EE PPs and I don’t watch or read news sources from my country of origin nor do I watch fox or newsmax or breitbart. I don’t watch any news but I read plenty, mainly NY Times and WaPo but a bunch of others most of which are either left or center-left. About the only publication I regularly read that wouldn’t qualify for that label is The Economist. And yet somehow I am still not a Democrat! I know it’s hard to believe but people can come to different conclusions than you without being brainwashed. Shocking!

Okay define the major tenets of conservative a Republican vs alt right vs Tea party. Which are you?

Wikipedia is right there, you can look it up for yourself. Moreover, you are not my teacher giving me a quiz for credit and I am not obligated to prove my bona fides to you. And that is why I tend not to discuss politics even in as cursory a fashion as I’ve done on this thread - any time you do so, people try to either prove to you how misguided you are or want to have a pointless time of a feedback loop of agreement. FWIW I am largely a libertarian politically. Republicans bother me less than Democrats.

PP and before you come back with your “but Trumpppppp” complaints, I loathe the man and did not vote for him. Nonetheless, between the two main parties, I skew Republican. If you are looking to convert or convince any of the former communist country posters by your tirades, I am afraid you will be disappointed. I’ve been harangued about the glories of one true path so many times in my former country, it really doesn’t stick any more.

The bolded is where you stop making sense. Only the Republicans think there is one true path. The Democrats are for "all in this together, don't suppress other peoples rights" -- and before you say it, they people they fight against are the ones trying suppress others' rights so they can to keep their one way of being the only way allowed in this country. Its really obvious.

You mean the people they fight against are the ones who aren't in lock and step with their point of view.

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Anonymous wrote:The PP who talks about propaganda is just so wrong. I am also from one of the former communist countries (like the two PPs above me) and I don’t consume any conservative news. But it’s enough for me to listen to NPR to have a perfect deja vu.

One is supposed to follow the party line, and god forbid they disagree or just have a shadow of a doubt. It’s not the right wing press that writes about cancellations!

Then, there are certain minorities who are preferred to other minorities. It reminds me of how back in the day one had to be of “worker or peasant descent” to be eligible for things.

Trust me we have seen it all. We don’t need propaganda to see where all this is going.

The propaganda is not fed to you through conservative TV it’s fed to you through TV in the language of your country of origin.

I am one of the EE PPs and I don’t watch or read news sources from my country of origin nor do I watch fox or newsmax or breitbart. I don’t watch any news but I read plenty, mainly NY Times and WaPo but a bunch of others most of which are either left or center-left. About the only publication I regularly read that wouldn’t qualify for that label is The Economist. And yet somehow I am still not a Democrat! I know it’s hard to believe but people can come to different conclusions than you without being brainwashed. Shocking!

Okay define the major tenets of conservative a Republican vs alt right vs Tea party. Which are you?

Wikipedia is right there, you can look it up for yourself. Moreover, you are not my teacher giving me a quiz for credit and I am not obligated to prove my bona fides to you. And that is why I tend not to discuss politics even in as cursory a fashion as I’ve done on this thread - any time you do so, people try to either prove to you how misguided you are or want to have a pointless time of a feedback loop of agreement. FWIW I am largely a libertarian politically. Republicans bother me less than Democrats.

PP and before you come back with your “but Trumpppppp” complaints, I loathe the man and did not vote for him. Nonetheless, between the two main parties, I skew Republican. If you are looking to convert or convince any of the former communist country posters by your tirades, I am afraid you will be disappointed. I’ve been harangued about the glories of one true path so many times in my former country, it really doesn’t stick any more.

The bolded is where you stop making sense. Only the Republicans think there is one true path. The Democrats are for "all in this together, don't suppress other peoples rights" -- and before you say it, they people they fight against are the ones trying suppress others' rights so they can to keep their one way of being the only way allowed in this country. Its really obvious.

What are you talking about? Democrats are very much into virtue signaling and cancel culture.

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Anonymous wrote:The PP who talks about propaganda is just so wrong. I am also from one of the former communist countries (like the two PPs above me) and I don’t consume any conservative news. But it’s enough for me to listen to NPR to have a perfect deja vu.

One is supposed to follow the party line, and god forbid they disagree or just have a shadow of a doubt. It’s not the right wing press that writes about cancellations!

Then, there are certain minorities who are preferred to other minorities. It reminds me of how back in the day one had to be of “worker or peasant descent” to be eligible for things.

Trust me we have seen it all. We don’t need propaganda to see where all this is going.

The propaganda is not fed to you through conservative TV it’s fed to you through TV in the language of your country of origin.

I am one of the EE PPs and I don’t watch or read news sources from my country of origin nor do I watch fox or newsmax or breitbart. I don’t watch any news but I read plenty, mainly NY Times and WaPo but a bunch of others most of which are either left or center-left. About the only publication I regularly read that wouldn’t qualify for that label is The Economist. And yet somehow I am still not a Democrat! I know it’s hard to believe but people can come to different conclusions than you without being brainwashed. Shocking!

Okay define the major tenets of conservative a Republican vs alt right vs Tea party. Which are you?

Wikipedia is right there, you can look it up for yourself. Moreover, you are not my teacher giving me a quiz for credit and I am not obligated to prove my bona fides to you. And that is why I tend not to discuss politics even in as cursory a fashion as I’ve done on this thread - any time you do so, people try to either prove to you how misguided you are or want to have a pointless time of a feedback loop of agreement. FWIW I am largely a libertarian politically. Republicans bother me less than Democrats.

PP and before you come back with your “but Trumpppppp” complaints, I loathe the man and did not vote for him. Nonetheless, between the two main parties, I skew Republican. If you are looking to convert or convince any of the former communist country posters by your tirades, I am afraid you will be disappointed. I’ve been harangued about the glories of one true path so many times in my former country, it really doesn’t stick any more.

The bolded is where you stop making sense. Only the Republicans think there is one true path. The Democrats are for "all in this together, don't suppress other peoples rights" -- and before you say it, they people they fight against are the ones trying suppress others' rights so they can to keep their one way of being the only way allowed in this country. Its really obvious.

Anonymous wrote:This one is easy > When they are resistant to change. 🤨

This one is quite close!! but too general to be true. If by resistance to change you mean having valuing traditions maybe. But someone mentioned above they value that too. Lol this is tier 2 propaganda. All the conservatives don’t do therapy and never move thing. They probably never try sky diving or new habits. You know progress and generational bonds only are broken when you are progressive and green hair hahaha. Kind of how Biden is so progressive with his insults to blacks calling them boy on national camera. He’s so changed from a southern boy. It’s weird but just as many people have crappy parents/husbands on the other side. The reasons again above while you will never be right is because Dem and Rep isn’t tied to a socioeconomic class! So while jeans work for a certain subset, they won’t represent some billionaire. For example (cant confirm this but can guesstimate). Bezos could be a Dem while fiscally Elon could be conservative. Does Elon have a Dixie flag? See doesn’t work. I can’t think of a another Rich Rep but there are just as many as Dem. But there are multiple levels of grouping US citizens, this one is quite off imo.

What’s it called if you’re an alcoholic and are a Dem? Resistant to change 🧐.

To answer OP’s question. The one people who flat out put themselves are people (on both sides) who value a label over getting to know people. If you people believe everything you read via media. Full stop. She’s thinks you’re like her because you don’t fit all the stereotypes in the media.
If someone is so loud to put a number sticker that’s how they will be in real life. I do think that’s a socioeconomic class. Paul Fusell comes to mind rather than Dem vs Rep.

This one is easy > When they are resistant to change. 🤨

On men, I always assume they're conservative if they're wearing jeans with contrast stitching. All the conservative guys at work seem to favor these for casual wear.

Anonymous wrote:The PP who talks about propaganda is just so wrong. I am also from one of the former communist countries (like the two PPs above me) and I don’t consume any conservative news. But it’s enough for me to listen to NPR to have a perfect deja vu.

One is supposed to follow the party line, and god forbid they disagree or just have a shadow of a doubt. It’s not the right wing press that writes about cancellations!

Then, there are certain minorities who are preferred to other minorities. It reminds me of how back in the day one had to be of “worker or peasant descent” to be eligible for things.

Trust me we have seen it all. We don’t need propaganda to see where all this is going.

+1

You can’t really tell. Maybe from some that in fact have been duped by propaganda! I’m going to dye my hair green/post my black square to show I’m a good person or I’m going to raise my back the blue to show I’m a good person.

I’m super conservative. College educated. I don’t watch tv or read news. I don’t have social media unless DCUM counts. I think the R party is full of rhinos. The Overton window. In 10 years Fox will be saying oh we only want immigrants flying in but not first class. Both parties need to exist to legitimatize each other. It’s quite the show.

The dems are also their own clown show. Because there’s a huge disconnect from libertarianism/pro social programs and just flat out politics/scary removing liberties from people. There’s the people who just want to help people via social programs and laws (I consider just normal) and then Harris/Pelosi/AOC. So much to unpack.

In this case some evil people are behind the insane part of the Dem party. These are the people calling to make the unvaccinated suffer. They get joy out of this. This is the type of thing that makes people just turn. It’s not a Dem thing but rather an evil thing and can easily be turned on in people. Just like eating junk food for your mind. The media is complicit. This is the trans movement too. Normalize it when it’s not normal. I think gay has been around since biblical times but trans is not. Marketing to kids with surgery/hormones is evil. Removing the words mother that part of the party (Pelosi).

My parents also came from a communist government that’s still communist but now looks socialistic. But they are pro families. Which in my opinion is why I vote R. I would vote Libertarian but it’s never going to win.

To be in politics you almost have to be an opportunist. Good people don’t run. This is the opposite of what the founding fathers had in mind. I don’t feel I first our elections/institutions which again I think is on purpose. Demoralizing that occurs via propaganda so people give up. I see this country broken and headed in bad directions repeating history. Russian Holmodor getting rid of political opponents and doxing them out of society. I had the vaccine but the way hospitals are losing people when we are on the middle of the pandemic makes you think.

The poster above is naive that’s its propaganda when the people lived it exactly. You have China and Russia promoting strong families and the US breaking them apart. It’s quite intentional. But Biden policies are definitely going down a certain track. Our production shortages are now fully his. He makes Clinton look conservative.

Anonymous wrote:The PP who talks about propaganda is just so wrong. I am also from one of the former communist countries (like the two PPs above me) and I don’t consume any conservative news. But it’s enough for me to listen to NPR to have a perfect deja vu.

One is supposed to follow the party line, and god forbid they disagree or just have a shadow of a doubt. It’s not the right wing press that writes about cancellations!

Then, there are certain minorities who are preferred to other minorities. It reminds me of how back in the day one had to be of “worker or peasant descent” to be eligible for things.

Trust me we have seen it all. We don’t need propaganda to see where all this is going.

+1000
I am not from an EE country but had substantial exposure to that world. Major deja vu.

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Anonymous wrote:The PP who talks about propaganda is just so wrong. I am also from one of the former communist countries (like the two PPs above me) and I don’t consume any conservative news. But it’s enough for me to listen to NPR to have a perfect deja vu.

One is supposed to follow the party line, and god forbid they disagree or just have a shadow of a doubt. It’s not the right wing press that writes about cancellations!

Then, there are certain minorities who are preferred to other minorities. It reminds me of how back in the day one had to be of “worker or peasant descent” to be eligible for things.

Trust me we have seen it all. We don’t need propaganda to see where all this is going.

The propaganda is not fed to you through conservative TV it’s fed to you through TV in the language of your country of origin.

I am one of the EE PPs and I don’t watch or read news sources from my country of origin nor do I watch fox or newsmax or breitbart. I don’t watch any news but I read plenty, mainly NY Times and WaPo but a bunch of others most of which are either left or center-left. About the only publication I regularly read that wouldn’t qualify for that label is The Economist. And yet somehow I am still not a Democrat! I know it’s hard to believe but people can come to different conclusions than you without being brainwashed. Shocking!

Okay define the major tenets of conservative a Republican vs alt right vs Tea party. Which are you?

Wikipedia is right there, you can look it up for yourself. Moreover, you are not my teacher giving me a quiz for credit and I am not obligated to prove my bona fides to you. And that is why I tend not to discuss politics even in as cursory a fashion as I’ve done on this thread - any time you do so, people try to either prove to you how misguided you are or want to have a pointless time of a feedback loop of agreement. FWIW I am largely a libertarian politically. Republicans bother me less than Democrats.

PP and before you come back with your “but Trumpppppp” complaints, I loathe the man and did not vote for him. Nonetheless, between the two main parties, I skew Republican. If you are looking to convert or convince any of the former communist country posters by your tirades, I am afraid you will be disappointed. I’ve been harangued about the glories of one true path so many times in my former country, it really doesn’t stick any more.

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Anonymous wrote:You would never guess I am by all the things discussed as markers here. I am a libertarian kind of republican - didn’t like Trump and didn’t vote for him but tend to vote Republican otherwise.

Not Christian, immigrant (I am an immigrant from a former communist country and myself and majority of immigrants from said country I’ve met tend to skew conservative), graduate degree, not SAHM, don’t care if my kids turn out to be gay (trans is a separate issue because it’s a form of body dysmorphia and thus not healthy but I’d still support them if they turned out to be trans since transitioning is the best treatment.) I don’t care whether other people want to do with themselves as long as they let me be my boring self but dislike the need to praise various identities or behaviors instead of just saying “I don’t care one way or another or even don’t think it’s great but it’s none of my business.” I dislike the social spending programs and various cultural policies put forward by Democrats which is why I tend to vote Republican.

No acquaintance has ever guessed my views in RL. I don’t hide them but I never discuss politics outside of my family and certainly not on social media because I do not find the topic something I find interesting to talk about and see no point in either getting into a debate or a circular agreement session.

^^^ Cuban

Sad.

This is PP. Nope, I am from one of the former Eastern Block countries and I am more the rule than the exception for fellow immigrants from that background. In talking to a lot of people over the years, you tend to find that immigrants from communist/former communist countries tend to skew conservative whether they are Cuban, EE, Vietnamese, Chinese etc.

Not so fast with the Vietnamese. You should check the California recall results in Westminster and Garden Grove.

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Anonymous wrote:The PP who talks about propaganda is just so wrong. I am also from one of the former communist countries (like the two PPs above me) and I don’t consume any conservative news. But it’s enough for me to listen to NPR to have a perfect deja vu.

One is supposed to follow the party line, and god forbid they disagree or just have a shadow of a doubt. It’s not the right wing press that writes about cancellations!

Then, there are certain minorities who are preferred to other minorities. It reminds me of how back in the day one had to be of “worker or peasant descent” to be eligible for things.

Trust me we have seen it all. We don’t need propaganda to see where all this is going.

The propaganda is not fed to you through conservative TV it’s fed to you through TV in the language of your country of origin.

I am one of the EE PPs and I don’t watch or read news sources from my country of origin nor do I watch fox or newsmax or breitbart. I don’t watch any news but I read plenty, mainly NY Times and WaPo but a bunch of others most of which are either left or center-left. About the only publication I regularly read that wouldn’t qualify for that label is The Economist. And yet somehow I am still not a Democrat! I know it’s hard to believe but people can come to different conclusions than you without being brainwashed. Shocking!

Okay define the major tenets of conservative a Republican vs alt right vs Tea party. Which are you?

Wikipedia is right there, you can look it up for yourself. Moreover, you are not my teacher giving me a quiz for credit and I am not obligated to prove my bona fides to you. And that is why I tend not to discuss politics even in as cursory a fashion as I’ve done on this thread - any time you do so, people try to either prove to you how misguided you are or want to have a pointless time of a feedback loop of agreement. FWIW I am largely a libertarian politically. Republicans bother me less than Democrats.

Anonymous wrote:The PP who talks about propaganda is just so wrong. I am also from one of the former communist countries (like the two PPs above me) and I don’t consume any conservative news. But it’s enough for me to listen to NPR to have a perfect deja vu.

One is supposed to follow the party line, and god forbid they disagree or just have a shadow of a doubt. It’s not the right wing press that writes about cancellations!

Then, there are certain minorities who are preferred to other minorities. It reminds me of how back in the day one had to be of “worker or peasant descent” to be eligible for things.

Trust me we have seen it all. We don’t need propaganda to see where all this is going.

And then you voted for a dictator who tried to overthrow an election. So no you didn’t see where all this is going.

Anonymous wrote:The PP who talks about propaganda is just so wrong. I am also from one of the former communist countries (like the two PPs above me) and I don’t consume any conservative news. But it’s enough for me to listen to NPR to have a perfect deja vu.

One is supposed to follow the party line, and god forbid they disagree or just have a shadow of a doubt. It’s not the right wing press that writes about cancellations!

Then, there are certain minorities who are preferred to other minorities. It reminds me of how back in the day one had to be of “worker or peasant descent” to be eligible for things.

Trust me we have seen it all. We don’t need propaganda to see where all this is going.

Yep, another former comrade here. We've been through political informations sessions at work, we've been called in school to raise the political consciousness of our parents (and report on those parents who don't rise to the ideals), we've joined youth organizations under the threat of being locked out of college degree, and we've marched and donated to causes under the threat of being fired. In other words, we've been there. OTOH, it's US, and things are vegetarian, relatively speaking; we know that too.

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Anonymous wrote:The PP who talks about propaganda is just so wrong. I am also from one of the former communist countries (like the two PPs above me) and I don’t consume any conservative news. But it’s enough for me to listen to NPR to have a perfect deja vu.

One is supposed to follow the party line, and god forbid they disagree or just have a shadow of a doubt. It’s not the right wing press that writes about cancellations!

Then, there are certain minorities who are preferred to other minorities. It reminds me of how back in the day one had to be of “worker or peasant descent” to be eligible for things.

Trust me we have seen it all. We don’t need propaganda to see where all this is going.

The propaganda is not fed to you through conservative TV it’s fed to you through TV in the language of your country of origin.

I am one of the EE PPs and I don’t watch or read news sources from my country of origin nor do I watch fox or newsmax or breitbart. I don’t watch any news but I read plenty, mainly NY Times and WaPo but a bunch of others most of which are either left or center-left. About the only publication I regularly read that wouldn’t qualify for that label is The Economist. And yet somehow I am still not a Democrat! I know it’s hard to believe but people can come to different conclusions than you without being brainwashed. Shocking!

Okay define the major tenets of conservative a Republican vs alt right vs Tea party. Which are you?