Anonymous wrote:Celebrities are getting coronavirus tests faster than everyone else

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/celebrities-are-getting-coronavirus-tests-faster-than-everyone-else/ar-BB1198o2?li=BBnbfcL

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-military-brought-coronavirus-to-wuhan-chinese-diplomat-claims/ar-BB117L5m

US military brought coronavirus to Wuhan, Chinese diplomat claims

Well Spanish Flu did start in Kansas.

But this is probably tit for tat.

PR game- https://thehill.com/policy/international/487308-china-pushing-conspiracy-theory-us-army-bringing-coronavirus-wuhan?amp

China, pushing conspiracy theory, accuses US Army of bringing coronavirus to Wuhan

Yup. I said this days ago. After a statement like this, you’d think that the media would stop going after the President and realize where the real issues are. Nope.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe the U.K. still has normal international travel, isn’t banning large gatherings, and has stopped testing unless you are severely ill in the hospital. WTH!!!

The virus is there stopping travel won’t stop the virus.

We are seeing clusters here in the US right now. You can say were are not testing enough, but the reality is, if that were the case, our hospitals across the country would overflowing with very sick and dying people, which means if it IS widespread, then it’s mild for most people, i.e. does not require hospitalization. That’s a very good thing. Stopping travel helps to stop new clusters as it’s quite clear per the CDC that it got here that way.

I agree the UK should be encouraging more social isolation. I told my older kids that their older brother is at risk, so they must be more careful about where/who they socialize. I put up a sanitation station by the main entrance so they can sanitize their hands BEFORE entering the house, cutting down on sanitation freakouts INSIDE the house. Non-ill friends can come in so long as they sanitize, but not in large groups. Go take a walk with your friends - the weather is getting nice! Precautions not complete isolation. My husband and I will practice a more austere form of social isolation, because we are in our late 50s.

My kid got pissed at me yesterday because he had to make two trips into his dorm room to get the things he is taking home. I didn’t want to go into the dorms, as it was a large group of potential carriers. My response to him was essentially GFY and get your stuff

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Anonymous wrote:I know this isn't helpful, but maybe if I vent here, I will feel better.

Is anyone else mad at China? All this death and suffering because of unsanitary markets that should have been shut down after SARS. Plus initial government dishonesty.

Just seems so unnecessary .

I am.

Omg me too. F^ck China and their dirty meat markets.

Yeah DH and I were just talking about this. I’m not upset with the Chinese people. If anything, I feel bad for them. I’m so angry at the awful Chinese government. They knew these markets were a breeding ground for new viruses and did nothing to regulate or shut them down even though we’ve had close calls before. And they weren’t immediately honest with the rest of the world causing us to lose precious time preparing elsewhere. Once this is all over, I hope the rest of the world demands they become a better global citizen, and frankly we need to stop relying on them for the import of so many goods. Sure, we’ve gotten a lot of things for cheap, but it comes at the expense of a vulnerable supply chain for important things like medicines.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder why more states aren’t cancelling school. Michigan and Ohio have for the next few weeks and they don’t have many cases (12 and 5). Why aren’t Washington state, Oregon, California, and those states with much higher numbers doing the same?

Michigan officials may be working on the assumption that they have a particularly large number of untested CV cases because of the auto industry. Wuhan is the center of auto parts manufacturing. There is a ton of travel by executives in auto industry-related businesses between the two countries. My brother is one of them, and said they've been teleworking for a while now. It sounds like they've maybe been a little ahead of everyone else is realizing the need for social distancing.

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Anonymous wrote:I know this isn't helpful, but maybe if I vent here, I will feel better.

Is anyone else mad at China? All this death and suffering because of unsanitary markets that should have been shut down after SARS. Plus initial government dishonesty.

Just seems so unnecessary .

I am.

Omg me too. F^ck China and their dirty meat markets.

Yeah DH and I were just talking about this. I’m not upset with the Chinese people. If anything, I feel bad for them. I’m so angry at the awful Chinese government. They knew these markets were a breeding ground for new viruses and did nothing to regulate or shut them down even though we’ve had close calls before. And they weren’t immediately honest with the rest of the world causing us to lose precious time preparing elsewhere. Once this is all over, I hope the rest of the world demands they become a better global citizen, and frankly we need to stop relying on them for the import of so many goods. Sure, we’ve gotten a lot of things for cheap, but it comes at the expense of a vulnerable supply chain for important things like medicines.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder why more states aren’t cancelling school. Michigan and Ohio have for the next few weeks and they don’t have many cases (12 and 5). Why aren’t Washington state, Oregon, California, and those states with much higher numbers doing the same?

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Anonymous wrote:A ray of hope for the US, our high number of critical care beds.

Lol, I wish.

That’s not even close to remotely accurate.

See: https://data.oecd.org/healtheqt/hospital-beds.htm

That’s a different metric. Your numbers show hospital beds per thousand. The chart shows critical care beds (which is what matters most now) per 100,000. I’ve seen the same numbers cited by multiple sources.

There are a total of 46,500 ICU beds in this country. Total, not currently empty. If 30% of americans get the virus then by current estimates that means 5 million will need intensive care.

According to this, the number is 94,000+. And the point of social distancing is to spread out the infection curve, so everyone who needs to go to ICU doesn’t do it all at the same time. Most Doctors don’t really want to say this out loud, but we’re not going to stop this virus, and it’s not really a good idea to try. People have to come out of quarantine eventually, and the virus will just explode again. We need to slow it down, to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed, but we’ve got to build up herd immunity, and right now, the only way is for “some” people to get the virus.

You're right about 94k i just looked it up. Math is still terrible and I'm very unsure what you're saying with your last point. Should we send out a first wave of people to become infected?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-military-brought-coronavirus-to-wuhan-chinese-diplomat-claims/ar-BB117L5m

US military brought coronavirus to Wuhan, Chinese diplomat claims

Well Spanish Flu did start in Kansas.

But this is probably tit for tat.

Why doesn’t the Spanish flu have another name like Clovid-#.

Anonymous wrote:I wonder why more states aren’t cancelling school. Michigan and Ohio have for the next few weeks and they don’t have many cases (12 and 5). Why aren’t Washington state, Oregon, California, and those states with much higher numbers doing the same?

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Anonymous wrote:A ray of hope for the US, our high number of critical care beds.

Lol, I wish.

That’s not even close to remotely accurate.

See: https://data.oecd.org/healtheqt/hospital-beds.htm

That’s a different metric. Your numbers show hospital beds per thousand. The chart shows critical care beds (which is what matters most now) per 100,000. I’ve seen the same numbers cited by multiple sources.

There are a total of 46,500 ICU beds in this country. Total, not currently empty. If 30% of americans get the virus then by current estimates that means 5 million will need intensive care.

According to this, the number is 94,000+. And the point of social distancing is to spread out the infection curve, so everyone who needs to go to ICU doesn’t do it all at the same time. Most Doctors don’t really want to say this out loud, but we’re not going to stop this virus, and it’s not really a good idea to try. People have to come out of quarantine eventually, and the virus will just explode again. We need to slow it down, to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed, but we’ve got to build up herd immunity, and right now, the only way is for “some” people to get the virus.

Anonymous wrote:So CV can survive in the air for 3 hours??