Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 22:28     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Rudy bagging against Trump's Russia Ambassador nominee who is currently a Senate Confirmed Assistant Sec State.

That's a winning ploy.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 21:33     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:Disagree. McConnell once again parried an election security bill. They know they are getting "outside" help.



This. I don't believe in conspiracy theories. But there no explanation why most Republican leaders are still riding the Trump train with publicly available facts. Sure Nunes is probably a True Believer. But McConnell? He doesn't do ANYTHING that doesn't benefit him. How does he benefit by passively supporting Trump? Maybe he is blackmailed, paid off or knows it is rigged. We don't have enough info to know which it is. But I would bet money it is one of those.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 21:05     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:Both Rep. Joe Cunningham of SC and Rep. Jared Golden of Maine, freshmen Democrats from districts Trump won, have said they’re voting in favor of the impeachment inquiry tomorrow.

Rep. Kendra Horn of Oklahoma is also in favor. Leaves only three Democratic holdouts.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 21:03     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Morrison is resigning today and testifying tomorrow.

That is strong.


Don't pin your hopes on him.

I don’t think anyone needs to pin all of their hopes on anyone, considering they all have the same story.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 20:59     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:Morrison is resigning today and testifying tomorrow.

That is strong.


Don't pin your hopes on him.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 20:03     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

*Russian-backed* oligarch, I meant
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 20:02     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:President Trump has asked Republicans to stop focusing on process and to focus instead on the facts/substance. What does that mean when we have several key and highly respected witnesses (Bill Taylor, Fiona Hill, Lt. Col Vindeman) all testifying to the same set of facts? I think we got our first hint today with several Republican lawmakers (including Kevin McCarthy) saying that what the President did is not impeachable. So it looks like the new strategy is “Get over it”
So Republicans do not think it is an abuse of power for a President to pressurize a foreign country to produce dirt on a political opponent
They are also fine with a President using military aid funds approved and appropriated by Congress as a tool to shake down an ally
They are also fine with a President imperiling the National security of a key strategic ally that forms a key bulwark against Russian expansion in Europe and the Baltic
For people who are inclined to give him a pass this one time, I will remind you that the infamous phone call to Ukraine occurred the day after Mueller’s lackluster testimony. The President obviously learned from that experience that he would not be held accountable. So what could happen if he gets a pass a second time because Republicans do not think what happened was an abuse of power?


And it's even worse than what went on in the phone call. Our foreign policy toward Ukraine was being dictated by Rudy Giuliani, who was on the payroll of a Soviet-backed Ukrainian oligarch. Total corruption.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 19:33     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Disagree. McConnell once again parried an election security bill. They know they are getting "outside" help.

Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 19:00     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:President Trump has asked Republicans to stop focusing on process and to focus instead on the facts/substance. What does that mean when we have several key and highly respected witnesses (Bill Taylor, Fiona Hill, Lt. Col Vindeman) all testifying to the same set of facts? I think we got our first hint today with several Republican lawmakers (including Kevin McCarthy) saying that what the President did is not impeachable. So it looks like the new strategy is “Get over it”
So Republicans do not think it is an abuse of power for a President to pressurize a foreign country to produce dirt on a political opponent
They are also fine with a President using military aid funds approved and appropriated by Congress as a tool to shake down an ally
They are also fine with a President imperiling the National security of a key strategic ally that forms a key bulwark against Russian expansion in Europe and the Baltic
For people who are inclined to give him a pass this one time, I will remind you that the infamous phone call to Ukraine occurred the day after Mueller’s lackluster testimony. The President obviously learned from that experience that he would not be held accountable. So what could happen if he gets a pass a second time because Republicans do not think what happened was an abuse of power?


I think Republicans are in trouble with this approach. All but the hardest core partisans understand that it is wrong. The 2020 election has the potential to be ugly for those that try to hide behind Trump's skirts.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 18:46     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

President Trump has asked Republicans to stop focusing on process and to focus instead on the facts/substance. What does that mean when we have several key and highly respected witnesses (Bill Taylor, Fiona Hill, Lt. Col Vindeman) all testifying to the same set of facts? I think we got our first hint today with several Republican lawmakers (including Kevin McCarthy) saying that what the President did is not impeachable. So it looks like the new strategy is “Get over it”
So Republicans do not think it is an abuse of power for a President to pressurize a foreign country to produce dirt on a political opponent
They are also fine with a President using military aid funds approved and appropriated by Congress as a tool to shake down an ally
They are also fine with a President imperiling the National security of a key strategic ally that forms a key bulwark against Russian expansion in Europe and the Baltic
For people who are inclined to give him a pass this one time, I will remind you that the infamous phone call to Ukraine occurred the day after Mueller’s lackluster testimony. The President obviously learned from that experience that he would not be held accountable. So what could happen if he gets a pass a second time because Republicans do not think what happened was an abuse of power?
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 18:05     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Morrison is resigning today and testifying tomorrow.

That is strong.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 18:01     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:

It looks like these are depositions, not hearings, consistent with what’s been done so far. They want all the principals on the record so no one is aligning their stories with each other. Public hearings later. Depositions are never public.


This has been the case all along. The GOP complaining about "process" is totally unfounded and meant to be a distraction. They cannot challenge the story, so they challenge the process. They are losing on both counts. You cannot defend the indefensible. The facts of this episode are straightfoward and unassailable. I guess the GOP wants to go down with SS Trump.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 18:01     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:I didn't see the Trump supporters complaining about the so-called Obama "holdovers," who were also heldover by Bush, Clinton, Bush and Reagan.

Do people really not understand how government works at the civil service level? Particularly people who live in the DC area?


No. They don’t. GOP have a vested interest in not understanding anything.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 17:58     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

For the due process complainers, why haven't you asked Trump about the full page ad he took out implicating 5 innocent people for a crime they didn't commit in Central Park?

Talk about due process.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 17:41     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Both Rep. Joe Cunningham of SC and Rep. Jared Golden of Maine, freshmen Democrats from districts Trump won, have said they’re voting in favor of the impeachment inquiry tomorrow.