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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

SLHS is at a reasonable capacity level after the move. There has been a lot of new housing in the area, to include apartments and townhouses and single family homes. It also shares borders with Oakton and can take students from Oakton if needed. I know that there are Crossfield families that hate hearing this, but Crossfield is likely to be moved to SLHS in a few years when Oakton is well over capacity.

SLHS has a great community and is a good school. It's biggest downside is IB but the School Board doesn't want to hear that. They could easily set up an IB academy or two in the county and bus kids who want IB to those schools and probably have a pretty robust IB program. The way they run IB right now, they can't even get the equivalent of one HS graduating class out of all the IB Diplomas across all the IB schools. I am not counting the specialized IB certificates that they have brought in to make the IB numbers look better but the actual IB diplomas.

SLHS share borders with 5 other pyramids

There are ES at all of those schools that could be moved to SLHS but the main one that I hear about is Oakton. Crossfield is at Oakton and already has students at SLHS so it makes sense that those kids would shift to SLHS when Oakton is deemed too over crowded. Madison and Marshall are close enough that I can see them swapping schools, I know that some just moved between the two but it seems like that caused some controversy. Langley is most likely to send kids to Herndon if it becomes too overcrowded. Herndon is not going to have to worry about getting to capacity any time soon and already sends a bunch of kids to SLHS for IB.

If Crossfield kids zoned to Oakton get moved to Franklin right now and then South Lakes in the future, where would they attend Middle School? Make Franklin into a three way split?

Based on what they are trying to do in this rezoning, I would imagine they would get moved to Hughes to avoid a split feeder.

Yes, move an ES to two different middle schools in a five-year period seems likely...

Doesn't Crossfield already have some kids at Hughes? Moving the rest there would eliminate another split feeder.

There is no room to do so, and that area of Crossfield is in Reston.

Just eliminate AAP center. There will be room.

You make a good point. Here's my prediction:

In 4-5 years (just in time for another comprehensive boundary review) AAP centers will be at all middle schools, meaning (1) Hughes will have capacity because the Herndon kids will be back at Herndon and (2) Franklin will be overcapacity because the Navy and Waples kids will return from Carson. Guess what the perfect school to move out of Franklin into Hughes-South Lakes will be? Crossfield!

At the same time, Carson will be well under capacity and overcapacity elementary schools like Floris, McNair, and Coates will be in the perfect position to move their 6th graders into a 6-8 middle school at Carson.

Carson will not be underserved. There will be plenty of kids there. Five elementary schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

SLHS is at a reasonable capacity level after the move. There has been a lot of new housing in the area, to include apartments and townhouses and single family homes. It also shares borders with Oakton and can take students from Oakton if needed. I know that there are Crossfield families that hate hearing this, but Crossfield is likely to be moved to SLHS in a few years when Oakton is well over capacity.

SLHS has a great community and is a good school. It's biggest downside is IB but the School Board doesn't want to hear that. They could easily set up an IB academy or two in the county and bus kids who want IB to those schools and probably have a pretty robust IB program. The way they run IB right now, they can't even get the equivalent of one HS graduating class out of all the IB Diplomas across all the IB schools. I am not counting the specialized IB certificates that they have brought in to make the IB numbers look better but the actual IB diplomas.

SLHS share borders with 5 other pyramids

There are ES at all of those schools that could be moved to SLHS but the main one that I hear about is Oakton. Crossfield is at Oakton and already has students at SLHS so it makes sense that those kids would shift to SLHS when Oakton is deemed too over crowded. Madison and Marshall are close enough that I can see them swapping schools, I know that some just moved between the two but it seems like that caused some controversy. Langley is most likely to send kids to Herndon if it becomes too overcrowded. Herndon is not going to have to worry about getting to capacity any time soon and already sends a bunch of kids to SLHS for IB.

If Crossfield kids zoned to Oakton get moved to Franklin right now and then South Lakes in the future, where would they attend Middle School? Make Franklin into a three way split?

Based on what they are trying to do in this rezoning, I would imagine they would get moved to Hughes to avoid a split feeder.

Yes, move an ES to two different middle schools in a five-year period seems likely...

Doesn't Crossfield already have some kids at Hughes? Moving the rest there would eliminate another split feeder.

There is no room to do so, and that area of Crossfield is in Reston.

Just eliminate AAP center. There will be room.

You make a good point. Here's my prediction:

In 4-5 years (just in time for another comprehensive boundary review) AAP centers will be at all middle schools, meaning (1) Hughes will have capacity because the Herndon kids will be back at Herndon and (2) Franklin will be overcapacity because the Navy and Waples kids will return from Carson. Guess what the perfect school to move out of Franklin into Hughes-South Lakes will be? Crossfield!

At the same time, Carson will be well under capacity and overcapacity elementary schools like Floris, McNair, and Coates will be in the perfect position to move their 6th graders into a 6-8 middle school at Carson.

Nope to 6-8. The Silver Line ES will address the Floris etc over capacity.

Fox Mill has capacity and can take some Floris kids. That's what the consultants originally proposed.

Fox Mill can take some Floris kids, there are kids in neighborhoods that attend Floris while their friends are at Fox Mill. I think the school is at 85% utilization.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

SLHS is at a reasonable capacity level after the move. There has been a lot of new housing in the area, to include apartments and townhouses and single family homes. It also shares borders with Oakton and can take students from Oakton if needed. I know that there are Crossfield families that hate hearing this, but Crossfield is likely to be moved to SLHS in a few years when Oakton is well over capacity.

SLHS has a great community and is a good school. It's biggest downside is IB but the School Board doesn't want to hear that. They could easily set up an IB academy or two in the county and bus kids who want IB to those schools and probably have a pretty robust IB program. The way they run IB right now, they can't even get the equivalent of one HS graduating class out of all the IB Diplomas across all the IB schools. I am not counting the specialized IB certificates that they have brought in to make the IB numbers look better but the actual IB diplomas.

SLHS share borders with 5 other pyramids

There are ES at all of those schools that could be moved to SLHS but the main one that I hear about is Oakton. Crossfield is at Oakton and already has students at SLHS so it makes sense that those kids would shift to SLHS when Oakton is deemed too over crowded. Madison and Marshall are close enough that I can see them swapping schools, I know that some just moved between the two but it seems like that caused some controversy. Langley is most likely to send kids to Herndon if it becomes too overcrowded. Herndon is not going to have to worry about getting to capacity any time soon and already sends a bunch of kids to SLHS for IB.

If Crossfield kids zoned to Oakton get moved to Franklin right now and then South Lakes in the future, where would they attend Middle School? Make Franklin into a three way split?

Based on what they are trying to do in this rezoning, I would imagine they would get moved to Hughes to avoid a split feeder.

Yes, move an ES to two different middle schools in a five-year period seems likely...

Doesn't Crossfield already have some kids at Hughes? Moving the rest there would eliminate another split feeder.

There is no room to do so, and that area of Crossfield is in Reston.

Just eliminate AAP center. There will be room.

You make a good point. Here's my prediction:

In 4-5 years (just in time for another comprehensive boundary review) AAP centers will be at all middle schools, meaning (1) Hughes will have capacity because the Herndon kids will be back at Herndon and (2) Franklin will be overcapacity because the Navy and Waples kids will return from Carson. Guess what the perfect school to move out of Franklin into Hughes-South Lakes will be? Crossfield!

At the same time, Carson will be well under capacity and overcapacity elementary schools like Floris, McNair, and Coates will be in the perfect position to move their 6th graders into a 6-8 middle school at Carson.

Nope to 6-8. The Silver Line ES will address the Floris etc over capacity.

Fox Mill has capacity and can take some Floris kids. That's what the consultants originally proposed.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

SLHS is at a reasonable capacity level after the move. There has been a lot of new housing in the area, to include apartments and townhouses and single family homes. It also shares borders with Oakton and can take students from Oakton if needed. I know that there are Crossfield families that hate hearing this, but Crossfield is likely to be moved to SLHS in a few years when Oakton is well over capacity.

SLHS has a great community and is a good school. It's biggest downside is IB but the School Board doesn't want to hear that. They could easily set up an IB academy or two in the county and bus kids who want IB to those schools and probably have a pretty robust IB program. The way they run IB right now, they can't even get the equivalent of one HS graduating class out of all the IB Diplomas across all the IB schools. I am not counting the specialized IB certificates that they have brought in to make the IB numbers look better but the actual IB diplomas.

SLHS share borders with 5 other pyramids

There are ES at all of those schools that could be moved to SLHS but the main one that I hear about is Oakton. Crossfield is at Oakton and already has students at SLHS so it makes sense that those kids would shift to SLHS when Oakton is deemed too over crowded. Madison and Marshall are close enough that I can see them swapping schools, I know that some just moved between the two but it seems like that caused some controversy. Langley is most likely to send kids to Herndon if it becomes too overcrowded. Herndon is not going to have to worry about getting to capacity any time soon and already sends a bunch of kids to SLHS for IB.

If Crossfield kids zoned to Oakton get moved to Franklin right now and then South Lakes in the future, where would they attend Middle School? Make Franklin into a three way split?

Based on what they are trying to do in this rezoning, I would imagine they would get moved to Hughes to avoid a split feeder.

Yes, move an ES to two different middle schools in a five-year period seems likely...

Doesn't Crossfield already have some kids at Hughes? Moving the rest there would eliminate another split feeder.

There is no room to do so, and that area of Crossfield is in Reston.

Just eliminate AAP center. There will be room.

You make a good point. Here's my prediction:

In 4-5 years (just in time for another comprehensive boundary review) AAP centers will be at all middle schools, meaning (1) Hughes will have capacity because the Herndon kids will be back at Herndon and (2) Franklin will be overcapacity because the Navy and Waples kids will return from Carson. Guess what the perfect school to move out of Franklin into Hughes-South Lakes will be? Crossfield!

At the same time, Carson will be well under capacity and overcapacity elementary schools like Floris, McNair, and Coates will be in the perfect position to move their 6th graders into a 6-8 middle school at Carson.

Nope to 6-8. The Silver Line ES will address the Floris etc over capacity.

Fox Mill has capacity and can take some Floris kids. That's what the consultants originally proposed.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

SLHS is at a reasonable capacity level after the move. There has been a lot of new housing in the area, to include apartments and townhouses and single family homes. It also shares borders with Oakton and can take students from Oakton if needed. I know that there are Crossfield families that hate hearing this, but Crossfield is likely to be moved to SLHS in a few years when Oakton is well over capacity.

SLHS has a great community and is a good school. It's biggest downside is IB but the School Board doesn't want to hear that. They could easily set up an IB academy or two in the county and bus kids who want IB to those schools and probably have a pretty robust IB program. The way they run IB right now, they can't even get the equivalent of one HS graduating class out of all the IB Diplomas across all the IB schools. I am not counting the specialized IB certificates that they have brought in to make the IB numbers look better but the actual IB diplomas.

SLHS share borders with 5 other pyramids

There are ES at all of those schools that could be moved to SLHS but the main one that I hear about is Oakton. Crossfield is at Oakton and already has students at SLHS so it makes sense that those kids would shift to SLHS when Oakton is deemed too over crowded. Madison and Marshall are close enough that I can see them swapping schools, I know that some just moved between the two but it seems like that caused some controversy. Langley is most likely to send kids to Herndon if it becomes too overcrowded. Herndon is not going to have to worry about getting to capacity any time soon and already sends a bunch of kids to SLHS for IB.

If Crossfield kids zoned to Oakton get moved to Franklin right now and then South Lakes in the future, where would they attend Middle School? Make Franklin into a three way split?

Based on what they are trying to do in this rezoning, I would imagine they would get moved to Hughes to avoid a split feeder.

Yes, move an ES to two different middle schools in a five-year period seems likely...

Doesn't Crossfield already have some kids at Hughes? Moving the rest there would eliminate another split feeder.

There is no room to do so, and that area of Crossfield is in Reston.

Just eliminate AAP center. There will be room.

You make a good point. Here's my prediction:

In 4-5 years (just in time for another comprehensive boundary review) AAP centers will be at all middle schools, meaning (1) Hughes will have capacity because the Herndon kids will be back at Herndon and (2) Franklin will be overcapacity because the Navy and Waples kids will return from Carson. Guess what the perfect school to move out of Franklin into Hughes-South Lakes will be? Crossfield!

At the same time, Carson will be well under capacity and overcapacity elementary schools like Floris, McNair, and Coates will be in the perfect position to move their 6th graders into a 6-8 middle school at Carson.

Nope to 6-8. The Silver Line ES will address the Floris etc over capacity.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

SLHS is at a reasonable capacity level after the move. There has been a lot of new housing in the area, to include apartments and townhouses and single family homes. It also shares borders with Oakton and can take students from Oakton if needed. I know that there are Crossfield families that hate hearing this, but Crossfield is likely to be moved to SLHS in a few years when Oakton is well over capacity.

SLHS has a great community and is a good school. It's biggest downside is IB but the School Board doesn't want to hear that. They could easily set up an IB academy or two in the county and bus kids who want IB to those schools and probably have a pretty robust IB program. The way they run IB right now, they can't even get the equivalent of one HS graduating class out of all the IB Diplomas across all the IB schools. I am not counting the specialized IB certificates that they have brought in to make the IB numbers look better but the actual IB diplomas.

SLHS share borders with 5 other pyramids

There are ES at all of those schools that could be moved to SLHS but the main one that I hear about is Oakton. Crossfield is at Oakton and already has students at SLHS so it makes sense that those kids would shift to SLHS when Oakton is deemed too over crowded. Madison and Marshall are close enough that I can see them swapping schools, I know that some just moved between the two but it seems like that caused some controversy. Langley is most likely to send kids to Herndon if it becomes too overcrowded. Herndon is not going to have to worry about getting to capacity any time soon and already sends a bunch of kids to SLHS for IB.

If Crossfield kids zoned to Oakton get moved to Franklin right now and then South Lakes in the future, where would they attend Middle School? Make Franklin into a three way split?

Based on what they are trying to do in this rezoning, I would imagine they would get moved to Hughes to avoid a split feeder.

Yes, move an ES to two different middle schools in a five-year period seems likely...

Doesn't Crossfield already have some kids at Hughes? Moving the rest there would eliminate another split feeder.

There is no room to do so, and that area of Crossfield is in Reston.

Just eliminate AAP center. There will be room.

You make a good point. Here's my prediction:

In 4-5 years (just in time for another comprehensive boundary review) AAP centers will be at all middle schools, meaning (1) Hughes will have capacity because the Herndon kids will be back at Herndon and (2) Franklin will be overcapacity because the Navy and Waples kids will return from Carson. Guess what the perfect school to move out of Franklin into Hughes-South Lakes will be? Crossfield!

At the same time, Carson will be well under capacity and overcapacity elementary schools like Floris, McNair, and Coates will be in the perfect position to move their 6th graders into a 6-8 middle school at Carson.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

SLHS is at a reasonable capacity level after the move. There has been a lot of new housing in the area, to include apartments and townhouses and single family homes. It also shares borders with Oakton and can take students from Oakton if needed. I know that there are Crossfield families that hate hearing this, but Crossfield is likely to be moved to SLHS in a few years when Oakton is well over capacity.

SLHS has a great community and is a good school. It's biggest downside is IB but the School Board doesn't want to hear that. They could easily set up an IB academy or two in the county and bus kids who want IB to those schools and probably have a pretty robust IB program. The way they run IB right now, they can't even get the equivalent of one HS graduating class out of all the IB Diplomas across all the IB schools. I am not counting the specialized IB certificates that they have brought in to make the IB numbers look better but the actual IB diplomas.

SLHS share borders with 5 other pyramids

There are ES at all of those schools that could be moved to SLHS but the main one that I hear about is Oakton. Crossfield is at Oakton and already has students at SLHS so it makes sense that those kids would shift to SLHS when Oakton is deemed too over crowded. Madison and Marshall are close enough that I can see them swapping schools, I know that some just moved between the two but it seems like that caused some controversy. Langley is most likely to send kids to Herndon if it becomes too overcrowded. Herndon is not going to have to worry about getting to capacity any time soon and already sends a bunch of kids to SLHS for IB.

If Crossfield kids zoned to Oakton get moved to Franklin right now and then South Lakes in the future, where would they attend Middle School? Make Franklin into a three way split?

Based on what they are trying to do in this rezoning, I would imagine they would get moved to Hughes to avoid a split feeder.

Yes, move an ES to two different middle schools in a five-year period seems likely...

Doesn't Crossfield already have some kids at Hughes? Moving the rest there would eliminate another split feeder.

There is no room to do so, and that area of Crossfield is in Reston.

Just eliminate AAP center. There will be room.

You make a good point. Here's my prediction:

In 4-5 years (just in time for another comprehensive boundary review) AAP centers will be at all middle schools, meaning (1) Hughes will have capacity because the Herndon kids will be back at Herndon and (2) Franklin will be overcapacity because the Navy and Waples kids will return from Carson. Guess what the perfect school to move out of Franklin into Hughes-South Lakes will be? Crossfield!

At the same time, Carson will be well under capacity and overcapacity elementary schools like Floris, McNair, and Coates will be in the perfect position to move their 6th graders into a 6-8 middle school at Carson.

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Anonymous wrote:They aren't making more 6-8 MS.

Reid talked about wanting to do more during the comprehensive rezoning

Anonymous wrote:They aren't making more 6-8 MS.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

SLHS is at a reasonable capacity level after the move. There has been a lot of new housing in the area, to include apartments and townhouses and single family homes. It also shares borders with Oakton and can take students from Oakton if needed. I know that there are Crossfield families that hate hearing this, but Crossfield is likely to be moved to SLHS in a few years when Oakton is well over capacity.

SLHS has a great community and is a good school. It's biggest downside is IB but the School Board doesn't want to hear that. They could easily set up an IB academy or two in the county and bus kids who want IB to those schools and probably have a pretty robust IB program. The way they run IB right now, they can't even get the equivalent of one HS graduating class out of all the IB Diplomas across all the IB schools. I am not counting the specialized IB certificates that they have brought in to make the IB numbers look better but the actual IB diplomas.

SLHS share borders with 5 other pyramids

There are ES at all of those schools that could be moved to SLHS but the main one that I hear about is Oakton. Crossfield is at Oakton and already has students at SLHS so it makes sense that those kids would shift to SLHS when Oakton is deemed too over crowded. Madison and Marshall are close enough that I can see them swapping schools, I know that some just moved between the two but it seems like that caused some controversy. Langley is most likely to send kids to Herndon if it becomes too overcrowded. Herndon is not going to have to worry about getting to capacity any time soon and already sends a bunch of kids to SLHS for IB.

If Crossfield kids zoned to Oakton get moved to Franklin right now and then South Lakes in the future, where would they attend Middle School? Make Franklin into a three way split?

Based on what they are trying to do in this rezoning, I would imagine they would get moved to Hughes to avoid a split feeder.

Yes, move an ES to two different middle schools in a five-year period seems likely...

Doesn't Crossfield already have some kids at Hughes? Moving the rest there would eliminate another split feeder.

There is no room to do so, and that area of Crossfield is in Reston.

Just eliminate AAP center. There will be room.

You make a good point. Here's my prediction:

In 4-5 years (just in time for another comprehensive boundary review) AAP centers will be at all middle schools, meaning (1) Hughes will have capacity because the Herndon kids will be back at Herndon and (2) Franklin will be overcapacity because the Navy and Waples kids will return from Carson. Guess what the perfect school to move out of Franklin into Hughes-South Lakes will be? Crossfield!

At the same time, Carson will be well under capacity and overcapacity elementary schools like Floris, McNair, and Coates will be in the perfect position to move their 6th graders into a 6-8 middle school at Carson.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

SLHS is at a reasonable capacity level after the move. There has been a lot of new housing in the area, to include apartments and townhouses and single family homes. It also shares borders with Oakton and can take students from Oakton if needed. I know that there are Crossfield families that hate hearing this, but Crossfield is likely to be moved to SLHS in a few years when Oakton is well over capacity.

SLHS has a great community and is a good school. It's biggest downside is IB but the School Board doesn't want to hear that. They could easily set up an IB academy or two in the county and bus kids who want IB to those schools and probably have a pretty robust IB program. The way they run IB right now, they can't even get the equivalent of one HS graduating class out of all the IB Diplomas across all the IB schools. I am not counting the specialized IB certificates that they have brought in to make the IB numbers look better but the actual IB diplomas.

SLHS share borders with 5 other pyramids

There are ES at all of those schools that could be moved to SLHS but the main one that I hear about is Oakton. Crossfield is at Oakton and already has students at SLHS so it makes sense that those kids would shift to SLHS when Oakton is deemed too over crowded. Madison and Marshall are close enough that I can see them swapping schools, I know that some just moved between the two but it seems like that caused some controversy. Langley is most likely to send kids to Herndon if it becomes too overcrowded. Herndon is not going to have to worry about getting to capacity any time soon and already sends a bunch of kids to SLHS for IB.

If Crossfield kids zoned to Oakton get moved to Franklin right now and then South Lakes in the future, where would they attend Middle School? Make Franklin into a three way split?

Based on what they are trying to do in this rezoning, I would imagine they would get moved to Hughes to avoid a split feeder.

Yes, move an ES to two different middle schools in a five-year period seems likely...

Doesn't Crossfield already have some kids at Hughes? Moving the rest there would eliminate another split feeder.

There is no room to do so, and that area of Crossfield is in Reston.

Just eliminate AAP center. There will be room.

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Anonymous wrote:Their story about South Lakes is that 7000 housing "units" are being proposed. Who knows how many of those are actually going to be built and most of those will not be the type of housing that high schoolers live in, but that's their cover story for SLHS.

This is just Kyle's way of wussing out with a fake excuse. Between the condos that high schoolers will never live in and the fake bus times, he's lying out of every orifice in his body.

All because it doesn't fit your narrative...let me guess all 2,000 units in Oakton will produce students?

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Anonymous wrote:The 2005 boundary adjustments that occurred when South County opened up caused Lee / Lewis to lose about three-hundred students. Dropped from over 2100 to 18XX. The ESL rate and FR lunch rate went up considerably and enrollment has continued to drop over the years. They also made another boundary change that took Daventry (relatively wealthy for the pyramid) out of Lee and moved them to West Springfield. Next year Lewis will barely clear 1400 students. And we know what people on this board think about Lewis.

The changes being made now could eventually lead to similar issues at Westfield.

Certainly, if Westfield is sitting at 40+% FARMS rate right next to Chantilly at 10% and Centreville at 20%---both those schools will be a lot more attractive with a lot more academic programming, course options, etc. Families with means can figure out a way to get their kids out of their zoned school and into the very close by better school.