Anonymous
09/25/2024 06:52
Subject: Project 2025 if Trump were to win
That CNN "fact check" story is ridiculous. It's like the Trump campaign wrote it.
Anonymous
09/25/2024 02:43
Subject: Project 2025 if Trump were to win
Fact check: Walz makes false claims about Vance, Trump and Project 2025
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2...p-jd-vance
Washington
CNN
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Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, the Democratic vice presidential candidate, has made at least three false claims over the last two weeks about the Republican vice presidential candidate Sen. JD Vance of Ohio and Republican presidential candidate former President Donald Trump.
Two of Walz’s false claims are related to Project 2025, the Heritage Foundation think tank’s detailed right-wing blueprint for the next Republican administration. Project 2025 has been the subject of multiple false or misleading claims from Vice President Kamala Harris’ campaign this summer.
The campaign declined to comment for this article.
1.) Trump, Project 2025 and pregnancies
Walz claimed in a speech in North Carolina last Tuesday: “And now Trump is trying to create this new government entity that will monitor all pregnancies to enforce their abortion bans.” He made an even more dramatic claim in a speech in Wisconsin on September 14: “Think about what they’re saying in Project 2025: you’re going to have to register with a new federal agency when you get pregnant.”
Facts First: Walz’s claims are false. Project 2025 does not propose to make people register with any federal agency when they get pregnant. And there is no indication that Trump is trying to create a new government entity to monitor pregnancies.
Project 2025 is firmly anti-abortion; it proposes, among other things, to criminalize the mailing of abortion medication and devices. But it does not propose to require people to register their pregnancies with the federal government.
2.) Vance’s comments about power
In a Saturday speech in Pennsylvania, Walz said, “My opponent, Senator Vance, had a quote that – you read it, you hear it, gloss over it. But think about how deeply disturbing this is. He said that when they get power and they will use the Project 2025, they need to be ruthless when it comes to the exercise of power.”
Facts First: Walz’s claim is false. Vance never said they “will use” Project 2025 in this comment about ruthlessly exercising power. In fact, Vance made the comment before Project 2025 was even created. He spoke in May 2021; Project 2025 was launched by the Heritage Foundation in April 2022, and the project’s extensive policy recommendations were released in April 2023.
Vance’s comments about power
In a Saturday speech in Pennsylvania, Walz said, “My opponent, Senator Vance, had a quote that – you read it, you hear it, gloss over it. But think about how deeply disturbing this is. He said that when they get power and they will use the Project 2025, they need to be ruthless when it comes to the exercise of power.”
Facts First: Walz’s claim is false. Vance never said they “will use” Project 2025 in this comment about ruthlessly exercising power. In fact, Vance made the comment before Project 2025 was even created. He spoke in May 2021; Project 2025 was launched by the Heritage Foundation in April 2022, and the project’s extensive policy recommendations were released in April 2023.
3.) Vance’s reaction to interest rate cuts
In the Saturday speech in Pennsylvania, Walz said, “We saw Senator Vance lead an audience when he said, ‘Well, they reduced interest rates this week. How terrible is that?’ And he got the crowd booing. Who boos for lower interest rates?”
Facts First: Walz’s claim about Vance is false. Vance did not respond to the Federal Reserve’s September rate cut by saying “how terrible is that,” and he did not goad a crowd into booing the cut; rather, the crowd at a Vance event last Wednesday in Raleigh, North Carolina appeared to independently start booing after a reporter asked Vance for his reaction to the cut (and asserted in the question that the cut would “alleviate inflation for a lot of people”).
Vance had started responding to the question in a neutral tone, saying, “Well look, my reaction is …” But the crowd booed the question and he paused briefly. Vance then said that the Fed’s half-point reduction wasn’t enough to make up for the inflation families have faced in the Biden-Harris era. But he also said, “It’s better than nothing.”
So Vance certainly did not offer a particularly enthusiastic reaction to the rate cut, but he did not decry the cut as Walz claimed.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2...p-jd-vance
Washington
CNN
—
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, the Democratic vice presidential candidate, has made at least three false claims over the last two weeks about the Republican vice presidential candidate Sen. JD Vance of Ohio and Republican presidential candidate former President Donald Trump.
Two of Walz’s false claims are related to Project 2025, the Heritage Foundation think tank’s detailed right-wing blueprint for the next Republican administration. Project 2025 has been the subject of multiple false or misleading claims from Vice President Kamala Harris’ campaign this summer.
The campaign declined to comment for this article.
1.) Trump, Project 2025 and pregnancies
Walz claimed in a speech in North Carolina last Tuesday: “And now Trump is trying to create this new government entity that will monitor all pregnancies to enforce their abortion bans.” He made an even more dramatic claim in a speech in Wisconsin on September 14: “Think about what they’re saying in Project 2025: you’re going to have to register with a new federal agency when you get pregnant.”
Facts First: Walz’s claims are false. Project 2025 does not propose to make people register with any federal agency when they get pregnant. And there is no indication that Trump is trying to create a new government entity to monitor pregnancies.
Project 2025 is firmly anti-abortion; it proposes, among other things, to criminalize the mailing of abortion medication and devices. But it does not propose to require people to register their pregnancies with the federal government.
2.) Vance’s comments about power
In a Saturday speech in Pennsylvania, Walz said, “My opponent, Senator Vance, had a quote that – you read it, you hear it, gloss over it. But think about how deeply disturbing this is. He said that when they get power and they will use the Project 2025, they need to be ruthless when it comes to the exercise of power.”
Facts First: Walz’s claim is false. Vance never said they “will use” Project 2025 in this comment about ruthlessly exercising power. In fact, Vance made the comment before Project 2025 was even created. He spoke in May 2021; Project 2025 was launched by the Heritage Foundation in April 2022, and the project’s extensive policy recommendations were released in April 2023.
Vance’s comments about power
In a Saturday speech in Pennsylvania, Walz said, “My opponent, Senator Vance, had a quote that – you read it, you hear it, gloss over it. But think about how deeply disturbing this is. He said that when they get power and they will use the Project 2025, they need to be ruthless when it comes to the exercise of power.”
Facts First: Walz’s claim is false. Vance never said they “will use” Project 2025 in this comment about ruthlessly exercising power. In fact, Vance made the comment before Project 2025 was even created. He spoke in May 2021; Project 2025 was launched by the Heritage Foundation in April 2022, and the project’s extensive policy recommendations were released in April 2023.
3.) Vance’s reaction to interest rate cuts
In the Saturday speech in Pennsylvania, Walz said, “We saw Senator Vance lead an audience when he said, ‘Well, they reduced interest rates this week. How terrible is that?’ And he got the crowd booing. Who boos for lower interest rates?”
Facts First: Walz’s claim about Vance is false. Vance did not respond to the Federal Reserve’s September rate cut by saying “how terrible is that,” and he did not goad a crowd into booing the cut; rather, the crowd at a Vance event last Wednesday in Raleigh, North Carolina appeared to independently start booing after a reporter asked Vance for his reaction to the cut (and asserted in the question that the cut would “alleviate inflation for a lot of people”).
Vance had started responding to the question in a neutral tone, saying, “Well look, my reaction is …” But the crowd booed the question and he paused briefly. Vance then said that the Fed’s half-point reduction wasn’t enough to make up for the inflation families have faced in the Biden-Harris era. But he also said, “It’s better than nothing.”
So Vance certainly did not offer a particularly enthusiastic reaction to the rate cut, but he did not decry the cut as Walz claimed.
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Anonymous
09/23/2024 14:14
Subject: Re:Project 2025 if Trump were to win
Anonymous wrote:
No. How would they with the media furiously sane- and competency-washing Trump, as well as reporting on Project 2025 very minimallly and not connecting the dots in any way on his stream of threats and the GOP’s Christian nationalist actions, like the attempt to casually make it impossible for married women who changed their names to vote.
The media works for the GOP.
Yes. But Trump was such a disaster the first time around. And with all his stupidity and chaos in the news it’s hard to believe it.
Anonymous
09/23/2024 13:55
Subject: Re:Project 2025 if Trump were to win
No. How would they with the media furiously sane- and competency-washing Trump, as well as reporting on Project 2025 very minimallly and not connecting the dots in any way on his stream of threats and the GOP’s Christian nationalist actions, like the attempt to casually make it impossible for married women who changed their names to vote.
The media works for the GOP.
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Anonymous
09/18/2024 14:48
Subject: Project 2025 if Trump were to win
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The most chilling part of that is when he acknowledges that conservatives have "lost" every societal institution except churches, which are now weaker than ever, and there's literally no discussion or reflection of why that is. They simply believe they should be able to force their beliefs onto everyone else despite their beliefs being wholly rejected throughout society.
They don't care! And if they win the EC, they will be legally entitled to try everything they have written about.
It sucks, but this is our system. Tyranny of the minority. With half our people living in 8 states in 15 years, it will only get worse.
And if we win by large enough margins, perhaps we can address the electoral college. But that doesn’t happen unless everyone gets out and votes blue all the way downticket in all the states.
Anonymous
09/17/2024 15:42
Subject: Project 2025 if Trump were to win
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The most chilling part of that is when he acknowledges that conservatives have "lost" every societal institution except churches, which are now weaker than ever, and there's literally no discussion or reflection of why that is. They simply believe they should be able to force their beliefs onto everyone else despite their beliefs being wholly rejected throughout society.
They don't care! And if they win the EC, they will be legally entitled to try everything they have written about.
It sucks, but this is our system. Tyranny of the minority. With half our people living in 8 states in 15 years, it will only get worse.
They certainly aren't reflecting on how has that worked out in history.
Anonymous
09/17/2024 14:50
Subject: Project 2025 if Trump were to win
Anonymous
09/17/2024 14:45
Subject: Project 2025 if Trump were to win
Anonymous wrote:
The most chilling part of that is when he acknowledges that conservatives have "lost" every societal institution except churches, which are now weaker than ever, and there's literally no discussion or reflection of why that is. They simply believe they should be able to force their beliefs onto everyone else despite their beliefs being wholly rejected throughout society.
They don't care! And if they win the EC, they will be legally entitled to try everything they have written about.
It sucks, but this is our system. Tyranny of the minority. With half our people living in 8 states in 15 years, it will only get worse.