Anonymous
06/23/2023 23:54
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
I haven’t read 140 pages but… have they found bodies?
Anonymous
06/23/2023 23:30
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone dies. At least vaporizing yourself in an experimental carbon fiber tube is a pretty unique and interesting way to go.
Vaporizing?
That implies heat. This sub was 10000 ft underwater in near freezing temperatures. Good luck vaporizing anything.
You must’ve studied science at trump university.
The immense pressure of water entering the capsule would pulverize any living matter in the sub. We are talking surface of the sun temps. Gone. Nothing left. Literally E=mC^2
Maybe a little PV=nRT too.
A lot of T
Exponentially increasing V = exponentially increasing T
Typo:
Exponentially increasing P = exponentially increasing T
Followed by...
decreasing V = decreasing T
It’s gruesome, but the Byford dolphin incident is as close as I can think of known outcome in somewhat similar circumstances. It was a decompressive, rather than a compressive incident, and it was from 9 atm to 1 atm. Other vessels have imploded, like the uss thresher, but no one survived and there is a lot of uncertainty about what really happened. Don’t read about Byford dolphin if you are at all squeamish. The titan sub imploded with an external pressure of 500 atm to 1 atm. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a reaction that happens magnitudes faster than human reaction.
My God. How did you come to know about this incident?
I took an ethics in engineering course as part of my mech engineering curriculum for undergrad. I posted earlier (like 30 pages ago) that we studied classic engineering mistakes. The Byford dolphin was not one that we spent a lot of time on, but was mentioned because it was just so awful. The design for the chambers was bad, prone to human error. The titan sub will definitely make the list of unethical engineering mistakes that cost lives.
Anonymous
06/23/2023 23:28
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Everyone dies. At least vaporizing yourself in an experimental carbon fiber tube is a pretty unique and interesting way to go.
You don’t vaporize..not even a little bit.
Anonymous
06/23/2023 23:20
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone dies. At least vaporizing yourself in an experimental carbon fiber tube is a pretty unique and interesting way to go.
Vaporizing?
That implies heat. This sub was 10000 ft underwater in near freezing temperatures. Good luck vaporizing anything.
You must’ve studied science at trump university.
The immense pressure of water entering the capsule would pulverize any living matter in the sub. We are talking surface of the sun temps. Gone. Nothing left. Literally E=mC^2
Maybe a little PV=nRT too.
A lot of T
Exponentially increasing V = exponentially increasing T
Typo:
Exponentially increasing P = exponentially increasing T
Followed by...
decreasing V = decreasing T
It’s gruesome, but the Byford dolphin incident is as close as I can think of known outcome in somewhat similar circumstances. It was a decompressive, rather than a compressive incident, and it was from 9 atm to 1 atm. Other vessels have imploded, like the uss thresher, but no one survived and there is a lot of uncertainty about what really happened. Don’t read about Byford dolphin if you are at all squeamish. The titan sub imploded with an external pressure of 500 atm to 1 atm. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a reaction that happens magnitudes faster than human reaction.
My God. How did you come to know about this incident?
Anonymous
06/23/2023 22:51
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone dies. At least vaporizing yourself in an experimental carbon fiber tube is a pretty unique and interesting way to go.
Vaporizing?
That implies heat. This sub was 10000 ft underwater in near freezing temperatures. Good luck vaporizing anything.
You must’ve studied science at trump university.
The immense pressure of water entering the capsule would pulverize any living matter in the sub. We are talking surface of the sun temps. Gone. Nothing left. Literally E=mC^2
Maybe a little PV=nRT too.
A lot of T
Exponentially increasing V = exponentially increasing T
Typo:
Exponentially increasing P = exponentially increasing T
Followed by...
decreasing V = decreasing T
It’s gruesome, but the Byford dolphin incident is as close as I can think of known outcome in somewhat similar circumstances. It was a decompressive, rather than a compressive incident, and it was from 9 atm to 1 atm. Other vessels have imploded, like the uss thresher, but no one survived and there is a lot of uncertainty about what really happened. Don’t read about Byford dolphin if you are at all squeamish. The titan sub imploded with an external pressure of 500 atm to 1 atm. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a reaction that happens magnitudes faster than human reaction.
https://www.newsweek.com/video-implosion-human-body-deep-sea-titan-effect-viral-mythbusters-1808599
Anonymous
06/23/2023 22:23
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree with cusack that it’s telling how many governments and journalists rushed to the aid of this foolish party while hundreds of refugees sank in the Mediterranean. Guess poor lives don’t matter. We don’t send taxpayer funded rescue teams to mt Everest for lost climbers so Why is my money being spent in this recovery effort?
What would have rescue teams done done for the migrant ship victims? They had already drowned.
So are these guys.
Anonymous
06/23/2023 22:21
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:I agree with cusack that it’s telling how many governments and journalists rushed to the aid of this foolish party while hundreds of refugees sank in the Mediterranean. Guess poor lives don’t matter. We don’t send taxpayer funded rescue teams to mt Everest for lost climbers so Why is my money being spent in this recovery effort?
AMEN!!!
Anonymous
06/23/2023 22:17
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone dies. At least vaporizing yourself in an experimental carbon fiber tube is a pretty unique and interesting way to go.
Vaporizing?
That implies heat. This sub was 10000 ft underwater in near freezing temperatures. Good luck vaporizing anything.
You must’ve studied science at trump university.
The immense pressure of water entering the capsule would pulverize any living matter in the sub. We are talking surface of the sun temps. Gone. Nothing left. Literally E=mC^2
Maybe a little PV=nRT too.
A lot of T
Exponentially increasing V = exponentially increasing T
Typo:
Exponentially increasing P = exponentially increasing T
Followed by...
decreasing V = decreasing T
It’s gruesome, but the Byford dolphin incident is as close as I can think of known outcome in somewhat similar circumstances. It was a decompressive, rather than a compressive incident, and it was from 9 atm to 1 atm. Other vessels have imploded, like the uss thresher, but no one survived and there is a lot of uncertainty about what really happened. Don’t read about Byford dolphin if you are at all squeamish. The titan sub imploded with an external pressure of 500 atm to 1 atm. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a reaction that happens magnitudes faster than human reaction.
Anonymous
06/23/2023 21:18
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone dies. At least vaporizing yourself in an experimental carbon fiber tube is a pretty unique and interesting way to go.
Vaporizing?
That implies heat. This sub was 10000 ft underwater in near freezing temperatures. Good luck vaporizing anything.
You must’ve studied science at trump university.
The immense pressure of water entering the capsule would pulverize any living matter in the sub. We are talking surface of the sun temps. Gone. Nothing left. Literally E=mC^2
Maybe a little PV=nRT too.
A lot of T
Exponentially increasing V = exponentially increasing T
Typo:
Exponentially increasing P = exponentially increasing T
Followed by...
decreasing V = decreasing T
Anonymous
06/23/2023 21:14
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone dies. At least vaporizing yourself in an experimental carbon fiber tube is a pretty unique and interesting way to go.
Vaporizing?
That implies heat. This sub was 10000 ft underwater in near freezing temperatures. Good luck vaporizing anything.
You must’ve studied science at trump university.
The immense pressure of water entering the capsule would pulverize any living matter in the sub. We are talking surface of the sun temps. Gone. Nothing left. Literally E=mC^2
Maybe a little PV=nRT too.
A lot of T
Exponentially increasing V = exponentially increasing T
Anonymous
06/23/2023 21:03
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:I agree with cusack that it’s telling how many governments and journalists rushed to the aid of this foolish party while hundreds of refugees sank in the Mediterranean. Guess poor lives don’t matter. We don’t send taxpayer funded rescue teams to mt Everest for lost climbers so Why is my money being spent in this recovery effort?
What would have rescue teams done done for the migrant ship victims? They had already drowned.
Anonymous
06/23/2023 21:03
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:I am the first shark diver and so perhaps overly reckless (lol), but I can completely see the value in billionaires funding and participating in missions and exploration. Explorers almost always have had private funding or sponsors, from King Tut to Everest. These things are expensive and usually the sponsor wants to come along for at least part of the ride.
The technology used in underwater exploration can also be used by our military, and perhaps in the future in underwater civilizations. It makes more sense than building on Mars to me.
Also, I am sure the Coast Guard had very limited hope but we all still benefited from the experience they gained. Rescue forces need real life experience, and this is better experience than a drill would be. I don’t even think they deployed any divers. Scanning the ocean isn’t very dangerous in and of itself, or even all that different from an average day.
You lost me at “underwater civilizations.” What a silly statement.
And no, there is not much value gained from scanning the ocean surface for days on end.
Anonymous
06/23/2023 21:02
Subject: Re:Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anderson Cooper just interviewed at biomedical expert from Duke who pointed out that the publicly available renderings of the Titan do not show adequate capacity for the materials and equipment necessary to scrub CO2 from the submersible for 96 hours for five passengers as the OceanGate materials indicated they had the ability to do.
Good thing they imploded and didn’t get stuck on Titanic where they could suffocate much faster than we previously thought.
I’m going to stop thinking about these foolish yahoos with money to burn and start thinking about the hundreds of women and children desperately attempting to reach a better life who were drowned in the Mediterranean last week.
Good thing they imploded and didn’t get stuck on Titanic where they could suffocate much faster than we previously thought.
I’m going to stop thinking about these foolish yahoos with money to burn and start thinking about the hundreds of women and children desperately attempting to reach a better life who were drowned in the Mediterranean last week.
Anonymous
06/23/2023 21:02
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
I agree with cusack that it’s telling how many governments and journalists rushed to the aid of this foolish party while hundreds of refugees sank in the Mediterranean. Guess poor lives don’t matter. We don’t send taxpayer funded rescue teams to mt Everest for lost climbers so Why is my money being spent in this recovery effort?
Anonymous
06/23/2023 20:57
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Everyone dies. At least vaporizing yourself in an experimental carbon fiber tube is a pretty unique and interesting way to go.
Vaporizing?
That implies heat. This sub was 10000 ft underwater in near freezing temperatures. Good luck vaporizing anything.
You must’ve studied science at trump university.
The immense pressure of water entering the capsule would pulverize any living matter in the sub. We are talking surface of the sun temps. Gone. Nothing left. Literally E=mC^2
Maybe a little PV=nRT too.
A lot of T