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Anonymous wrote:Some big names now on the deposition list -

John Eisenberg and Michael Ellis - Nov. 4
John Bolton - Nov. 7

Will these be done in public under the new rules outlined by Pelosi?

It looks like these are depositions, not hearings, consistent with what’s been done so far. They want all the principals on the record so no one is aligning their stories with each other. Public hearings later. Depositions are never public.

Anonymous wrote:Some big names now on the deposition list -

John Eisenberg and Michael Ellis - Nov. 4
John Bolton - Nov. 7

Will these be done in public under the new rules outlined by Pelosi?

I didn't see the Trump supporters complaining about the so-called Obama "holdovers," who were also heldover by Bush, Clinton, Bush and Reagan.

Do people really not understand how government works at the civil service level? Particularly people who live in the DC area?

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Anonymous wrote:NPR: State Dept's Catherine Croft to testify today that during her time at NSC she got "multiple calls from lobbyist Robert Livingston, who told me that Ambassador Yovanovitch should be fired" and that he called her "Obama holdover...associated with George Soros."

Why should anyone care about this? Who is Robert Livingston?

Because it is a stark example of how ugly partisanship and a right wing conspiracy about a political donor can contribute to ousting a highly respected ambassador. People actually believe it and peddle it around, without necessarily realizing that behind the scenes, they are being used for purposes that have nothing to do with these fake conspiracies.

Any chance that's who Yovanovich is? There are plenty of Obama holdovers sabotaging this administration.

There are plenty of CAREER GOVT EMPLOYEES trying to keep the government functional despite this administration's actions.

FIFY

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Despite one helluva treasonous headwind, they persevere.

Some big names now on the deposition list -

John Eisenberg and Michael Ellis - Nov. 4
John Bolton - Nov. 7

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NPR: State Dept's Catherine Croft to testify today that during her time at NSC she got "multiple calls from lobbyist Robert Livingston, who told me that Ambassador Yovanovitch should be fired" and that he called her "Obama holdover...associated with George Soros."

Why should anyone care about this? Who is Robert Livingston?

Because it is a stark example of how ugly partisanship and a right wing conspiracy about a political donor can contribute to ousting a highly respected ambassador. People actually believe it and peddle it around, without necessarily realizing that behind the scenes, they are being used for purposes that have nothing to do with these fake conspiracies.

Any chance that's who Yovanovich is? There are plenty of Obama holdovers sabotaging this administration.

There are plenty of CAREER GOVT EMPLOYEES trying to keep the government functional despite this administration's actions.

FIFY

Anonymous wrote:Vindman told House investigators that a WH meeting AND nearly $400 million in security and military aid was “contingent” on Ukrainian officials carrying out multiple investigations, including into Burisma, the Bidens, the 2016 election and Crowd Strike.

damning

Vindman told House investigators that a WH meeting AND nearly $400 million in security and military aid was “contingent” on Ukrainian officials carrying out multiple investigations, including into Burisma, the Bidens, the 2016 election and Crowd Strike.

Politico:

Vindman was instructed not to debrief Trump on Zelensky's inauguration b/c Trump’s advisers were worried it might confuse him—Nunes ally Kash Patel had "misrepresented" himself as NSC's Ukraine expert, despite no relevant experience, Vindman testified


I mean, seriously, is this yet another case where Nunes is going to have to recuse? And what kind of nonsense is this that Trump is confused about who the true Ukraine expert in the White House is.

This is madness.

Thanks, GOP.

Livingston - referenced in Rudy's butt call - is being paid by a Ukrainian Oligarch.

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Anonymous wrote:So from the articles linked above, it seems that Bob Livingston trashed the U.S. Ambassador while he knew he was being paid by a front company and had no idea who was actually paying him $50K per month.

Thank you for translating that.

But wait. We have laws where lobbyists have to register their clients. And he MADE LAWS for much of his career. How is this possible? Did he crime?

Officially, his client was Innovative Technology and Business Consulting, with an address in Pikesville, MD, but no physical or online business presence, which is very strange for a technology and business consulting company. Livingston knew that was not the real source of the lobbying funds but he took the money and did what he was asked to do. Among other activities, Livingston contacted U.S. officials, including Ambassador Volker, to meet with Yulia Tymoshenko while she was candidate for President of Ukraine. Livingston apparently was also a client for other companies in Ukraine and the region.

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Anonymous wrote:So from the articles linked above, it seems that Bob Livingston trashed the U.S. Ambassador while he knew he was being paid by a front company and had no idea who was actually paying him $50K per month.

Thank you for translating that.

But wait. We have laws where lobbyists have to register their clients. And he MADE LAWS for much of his career. How is this possible? Did he crime?

Anonymous wrote:So from the articles linked above, it seems that Bob Livingston trashed the U.S. Ambassador while he knew he was being paid by a front company and had no idea who was actually paying him $50K per month.

Thank you for translating that.

So from the articles linked above, it seems that Bob Livingston trashed the U.S. Ambassador while he knew he was being paid by a front company and had no idea who was actually paying him $50K per month.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:NPR: State Dept's Catherine Croft to testify today that during her time at NSC she got "multiple calls from lobbyist Robert Livingston, who told me that Ambassador Yovanovitch should be fired" and that he called her "Obama holdover...associated with George Soros."

Why should anyone care about this? Who is Robert Livingston?

Because it is a stark example of how ugly partisanship and a right wing conspiracy about a political donor can contribute to ousting a highly respected ambassador. People actually believe it and peddle it around, without necessarily realizing that behind the scenes, they are being used for purposes that have nothing to do with these fake conspiracies.

Any chance that's who Yovanovich is? There are plenty of Obama holdovers sabotaging this administration.

She is not "an Obama holdover." She is a career civil servant who served in top posts under both Republican and Democratic administrations.

Masha Yovanovitch was forced out because she was representing the interests of the United States. The corrupt Ukrainians and the corrupt Americans could not have that.