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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we are discussing the quality of a lower level team at Valor. Do you think it's different at any club? Your kid is placed at the level that he/she belongs and if that isn't good enough for you feel free to fish but you will end up with the same. Focus on personal development.

I'm a Valor parent with a child on the top team and am happy with my kid's experience and coaching. I can attest that the lack of quality of the lower teams at least in my son's age group. Whether that's based on talent or coaching or a combination of the two, I have no idea.

IMO - this whole thread can be summed up as: if your child can make either the top team or second team, they are most likely going to have a quality coach. After that - you run the risk of less talented teammates and lower quality coaching for the same price as the top team. Think that through before you commit.

Not so fast. I’d take my younger child’s rec team volunteer coach over my older child’s paid top team coach at Valor right now. We can see the growth in the rec team since September. Not so much with the travel team that has been practicing twice as much since August.

It has nothing to do with a REC coach vs a travel coach. I have no licenses but played all life through college and coached my son's U5-U9 team and a few of them went onto competitive travel teams. I can probably out coach/train most in this area. It's all about the coach and his/her knowledge of the game and ability to transfer that knowledge in a meaningful way to the player. Being a travel coach just means you were licensed which means pretty much nothing.

If i was paying $3000 which is PREMIUM level pricing for u-little, NCSL league soccer, I would expect a great, credentialed, experienced, professional coach. Not a parent coach (so many issues with having a parent coach!).

This is not the club for you, in that case. This is the club for people who don't know any better.

In reality though is the complaint we paid too much for a shitty experience and could have paid less but still be in the same situation? No where am I seeing any of the clubs in this vicinity as having better comments on this forum. Just maybe a few hundred dollars cheaper.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we are discussing the quality of a lower level team at Valor. Do you think it's different at any club? Your kid is placed at the level that he/she belongs and if that isn't good enough for you feel free to fish but you will end up with the same. Focus on personal development.

I'm a Valor parent with a child on the top team and am happy with my kid's experience and coaching. I can attest that the lack of quality of the lower teams at least in my son's age group. Whether that's based on talent or coaching or a combination of the two, I have no idea.

IMO - this whole thread can be summed up as: if your child can make either the top team or second team, they are most likely going to have a quality coach. After that - you run the risk of less talented teammates and lower quality coaching for the same price as the top team. Think that through before you commit.

Not so fast. I’d take my younger child’s rec team volunteer coach over my older child’s paid top team coach at Valor right now. We can see the growth in the rec team since September. Not so much with the travel team that has been practicing twice as much since August.

It has nothing to do with a REC coach vs a travel coach. I have no licenses but played all life through college and coached my son's U5-U9 team and a few of them went onto competitive travel teams. I can probably out coach/train most in this area. It's all about the coach and his/her knowledge of the game and ability to transfer that knowledge in a meaningful way to the player. Being a travel coach just means you were licensed which means pretty much nothing.

If i was paying $3000 which is PREMIUM level pricing for u-little, NCSL league soccer, I would expect a great, credentialed, experienced, professional coach. Not a parent coach (so many issues with having a parent coach!).

This is not the club for you, in that case. This is the club for people who don't know any better.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we are discussing the quality of a lower level team at Valor. Do you think it's different at any club? Your kid is placed at the level that he/she belongs and if that isn't good enough for you feel free to fish but you will end up with the same. Focus on personal development.

I'm a Valor parent with a child on the top team and am happy with my kid's experience and coaching. I can attest that the lack of quality of the lower teams at least in my son's age group. Whether that's based on talent or coaching or a combination of the two, I have no idea.

IMO - this whole thread can be summed up as: if your child can make either the top team or second team, they are most likely going to have a quality coach. After that - you run the risk of less talented teammates and lower quality coaching for the same price as the top team. Think that through before you commit.

Not so fast. I’d take my younger child’s rec team volunteer coach over my older child’s paid top team coach at Valor right now. We can see the growth in the rec team since September. Not so much with the travel team that has been practicing twice as much since August.

It has nothing to do with a REC coach vs a travel coach. I have no licenses but played all life through college and coached my son's U5-U9 team and a few of them went onto competitive travel teams. I can probably out coach/train most in this area. It's all about the coach and his/her knowledge of the game and ability to transfer that knowledge in a meaningful way to the player. Being a travel coach just means you were licensed which means pretty much nothing.

If i was paying $3000 which is PREMIUM level pricing for u-little, NCSL league soccer, I would expect a great, credentialed, experienced, professional coach. Not a parent coach (so many issues with having a parent coach!).

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Anonymous wrote:So parents, what are the alternatives if you live in 20171 and don't want to drive 45 minutes in rush hour traffic?

tSTJFCV North as well

read DCUM. Stay away from TSJFC North.

Wow ok. I just always heard they were really good in the South and growing in the North. I didn't realize it fell apart this year.

What is the biggest problem? I don’t have days to read through all dcum

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we are discussing the quality of a lower level team at Valor. Do you think it's different at any club? Your kid is placed at the level that he/she belongs and if that isn't good enough for you feel free to fish but you will end up with the same. Focus on personal development.

I'm a Valor parent with a child on the top team and am happy with my kid's experience and coaching. I can attest that the lack of quality of the lower teams at least in my son's age group. Whether that's based on talent or coaching or a combination of the two, I have no idea.

IMO - this whole thread can be summed up as: if your child can make either the top team or second team, they are most likely going to have a quality coach. After that - you run the risk of less talented teammates and lower quality coaching for the same price as the top team. Think that through before you commit.

Not so fast. I’d take my younger child’s rec team volunteer coach over my older child’s paid top team coach at Valor right now. We can see the growth in the rec team since September. Not so much with the travel team that has been practicing twice as much since August.

It has nothing to do with a REC coach vs a travel coach. I have no licenses but played all life through college and coached my son's U5-U9 team and a few of them went onto competitive travel teams. I can probably out coach/train most in this area. It's all about the coach and his/her knowledge of the game and ability to transfer that knowledge in a meaningful way to the player. Being a travel coach just means you were licensed which means pretty much nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we are discussing the quality of a lower level team at Valor. Do you think it's different at any club? Your kid is placed at the level that he/she belongs and if that isn't good enough for you feel free to fish but you will end up with the same. Focus on personal development.

I'm a Valor parent with a child on the top team and am happy with my kid's experience and coaching. I can attest that the lack of quality of the lower teams at least in my son's age group. Whether that's based on talent or coaching or a combination of the two, I have no idea.

IMO - this whole thread can be summed up as: if your child can make either the top team or second team, they are most likely going to have a quality coach. After that - you run the risk of less talented teammates and lower quality coaching for the same price as the top team. Think that through before you commit.

Not so fast. I’d take my younger child’s rec team volunteer coach over my older child’s paid top team coach at Valor right now. We can see the growth in the rec team since September. Not so much with the travel team that has been practicing twice as much since August.

It has nothing to do with a REC coach vs a travel coach. I have no licenses but played all life through college and coached my son's U5-U9 team and a few of them went onto competitive travel teams. I can probably out coach/train most in this area. It's all about the coach and his/her knowledge of the game and ability to transfer that knowledge in a meaningful way to the player. Being a travel coach just means you were licensed which means pretty much nothing.

Our coach is also mediocre at best. I feel like us parents are bending over to accommodate everything, and the coach just shows up, stands around, gives a few directions and then disappears right after practice. Making sure nobody can catch up to him and ask a question. I am considering moving my kid go STJFC or Loudoun next year.

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Anonymous wrote:So parents, what are the alternatives if you live in 20171 and don't want to drive 45 minutes in rush hour traffic?

tSTJFCV North as well

read DCUM. Stay away from TSJFC North.

Wow ok. I just always heard they were really good in the South and growing in the North. I didn't realize it fell apart this year.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we are discussing the quality of a lower level team at Valor. Do you think it's different at any club? Your kid is placed at the level that he/she belongs and if that isn't good enough for you feel free to fish but you will end up with the same. Focus on personal development.

I'm a Valor parent with a child on the top team and am happy with my kid's experience and coaching. I can attest that the lack of quality of the lower teams at least in my son's age group. Whether that's based on talent or coaching or a combination of the two, I have no idea.

IMO - this whole thread can be summed up as: if your child can make either the top team or second team, they are most likely going to have a quality coach. After that - you run the risk of less talented teammates and lower quality coaching for the same price as the top team. Think that through before you commit.

Not so fast. I’d take my younger child’s rec team volunteer coach over my older child’s paid top team coach at Valor right now. We can see the growth in the rec team since September. Not so much with the travel team that has been practicing twice as much since August.

It has nothing to do with a REC coach vs a travel coach. I have no licenses but played all life through college and coached my son's U5-U9 team and a few of them went onto competitive travel teams. I can probably out coach/train most in this area. It's all about the coach and his/her knowledge of the game and ability to transfer that knowledge in a meaningful way to the player. Being a travel coach just means you were licensed which means pretty much nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we are discussing the quality of a lower level team at Valor. Do you think it's different at any club? Your kid is placed at the level that he/she belongs and if that isn't good enough for you feel free to fish but you will end up with the same. Focus on personal development.

I'm a Valor parent with a child on the top team and am happy with my kid's experience and coaching. I can attest that the lack of quality of the lower teams at least in my son's age group. Whether that's based on talent or coaching or a combination of the two, I have no idea.

IMO - this whole thread can be summed up as: if your child can make either the top team or second team, they are most likely going to have a quality coach. After that - you run the risk of less talented teammates and lower quality coaching for the same price as the top team. Think that through before you commit.

Not so fast. I’d take my younger child’s rec team volunteer coach over my older child’s paid top team coach at Valor right now. We can see the growth in the rec team since September. Not so much with the travel team that has been practicing twice as much since August.

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Anonymous wrote:So parents, what are the alternatives if you live in 20171 and don't want to drive 45 minutes in rush hour traffic?

tSTJFCV North as well

read DCUM. Stay away from TSJFC North.

Anonymous wrote:Multiple people on here have complained that they are playing $3000 Valor pricing for bad rec parent coaching.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we are discussing the quality of a lower level team at Valor. Do you think it's different at any club? Your kid is placed at the level that he/she belongs and if that isn't good enough for you feel free to fish but you will end up with the same. Focus on personal development.

I'm a Valor parent with a child on the top team and am happy with my kid's experience and coaching. I can attest that the lack of quality of the lower teams at least in my son's age group. Whether that's based on talent or coaching or a combination of the two, I have no idea.

IMO - this whole thread can be summed up as: if your child can make either the top team or second team, they are most likely going to have a quality coach. After that - you run the risk of less talented teammates and lower quality coaching for the same price as the top team. Think that through before you commit.

Not so fast. I’d take my younger child’s rec team volunteer coach over my older child’s paid top team coach at Valor right now. We can see the growth in the rec team since September. Not so much with the travel team that has been practicing twice as much since August.

What team?

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Anonymous wrote:So parents, what are the alternatives if you live in 20171 and don't want to drive 45 minutes in rush hour traffic?

tSTJFCV North as well