Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 20:50     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone dies. At least vaporizing yourself in an experimental carbon fiber tube is a pretty unique and interesting way to go.


Vaporizing?

That implies heat. This sub was 10000 ft underwater in near freezing temperatures. Good luck vaporizing anything.

You must’ve studied science at trump university.


The immense pressure of water entering the capsule would pulverize any living matter in the sub. We are talking surface of the sun temps. Gone. Nothing left. Literally E=mC^2


Literally E=mC^2?? Did nuclear fusion or fission occur on the implosion? Is there now a mini sun or black hole down there?


E= mc^2 doesn’t mean nuclear fission or fusion. It means matter and energy are interchangeable. Like when a piece of wood is burned, it follows e=mc^2. Heat and light are released from the wood, but there are also ashes, gases, energy consumed in chemical changes, etc from burning wood, not just mostly energy like in fusion and fission. So no, there is no new black hole down there, but that’s a cool idea
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 20:43     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:I know the ocean is vast, but what harm could the implosion have caused if there were nearby boats on the surface? Could it have caused harm to someone unsuspecting nearby, or was it contained as an underwater event?


No harm. They were so far down and the water is so dense and heavy. Also this was an implosion, not an explosion, so the tremendous force was directed inward. If this had been an explosive decompression of 500 atm to 1 atm, yeah, that would have been crazy.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 20:10     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
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Anonymous wrote:I am the first shark diver and so perhaps overly reckless (lol), but I can completely see the value in billionaires funding and participating in missions and exploration. Explorers almost always have had private funding or sponsors, from King Tut to Everest. These things are expensive and usually the sponsor wants to come along for at least part of the ride.

The technology used in underwater exploration can also be used by our military, and perhaps in the future in underwater civilizations. It makes more sense than building on Mars to me.

Also, I am sure the Coast Guard had very limited hope but we all still benefited from the experience they gained. Rescue forces need real life experience, and this is better experience than a drill would be. I don’t even think they deployed any divers. Scanning the ocean isn’t very dangerous in and of itself, or even all that different from an average day.


I haven’t followed this whole thread so I don’t get the shark diver reference, but this is what I’ve been thinking. This is just 21st Century patronage - crowdsourced and everyone gets a thrill ride. This truly is how technology has advanced for generations.

Then again, I went cage diving off the coast of South Africa with great white sharks. But that was all very safe as long as I kept my hands and feet inside the cage!
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 20:07     Subject: Re:Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Ugg CEO was so clever and pushy about getting people to take the trip!
See texts exposed in:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12225963/Tycoon-gave-seats-doomed-Titanic-sub-Pakistani-businessman-teenage-son.html


Ugh not urgent I was not taking the time out if my day to comment on his appearance
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 20:04     Subject: Re:Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Ugg CEO was so clever and pushy about getting people to take the trip!
See texts exposed in:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12225963/Tycoon-gave-seats-doomed-Titanic-sub-Pakistani-businessman-teenage-son.html
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 20:01     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone dies. At least vaporizing yourself in an experimental carbon fiber tube is a pretty unique and interesting way to go.


Vaporizing?

That implies heat. This sub was 10000 ft underwater in near freezing temperatures. Good luck vaporizing anything.

You must’ve studied science at trump university.


The immense pressure of water entering the capsule would pulverize any living matter in the sub. We are talking surface of the sun temps. Gone. Nothing left. Literally E=mC^2


Literally E=mC^2?? Did nuclear fusion or fission occur on the implosion? Is there now a mini sun or black hole down there?
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 19:45     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Unbelievably decadent to vaporize yourself in an experimental carbon fiber tube only to have multiple governments spend millions of dollars (not to mention personnel facing real risks) over almost a week trying to “rescue” you.

Meanwhile, u go to Chuck E Cheese bday parties and dine at P.F. Chang.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 19:41     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone dies. At least vaporizing yourself in an experimental carbon fiber tube is a pretty unique and interesting way to go.


Vaporizing?

That implies heat. This sub was 10000 ft underwater in near freezing temperatures. Good luck vaporizing anything.

You must’ve studied science at trump university.


The immense pressure of water entering the capsule would pulverize any living matter in the sub. We are talking surface of the sun temps. Gone. Nothing left. Literally E=mC^2


Maybe a little PV=nRT too.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 18:19     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:I know the ocean is vast, but what harm could the implosion have caused if there were nearby boats on the surface? Could it have caused harm to someone unsuspecting nearby, or was it contained as an underwater event?


It imploded because of the pressure of being so deep. So this particular event would not have happened close enough to a surface ship to do damage. Also the force was directed inward (implosion not explosion). I guess if you had an ROV or 2nd sub very close by, they could be affected.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 18:10     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When will OceanGate’s competitors start offering $250,000 tours on submersibles to see the wreck of the Titan sub?


So, they was my idea, except I would do it as a single-passenger perfect sphere made of carbon fiber.

They seal you into a ball and toss. You into the ocean with a big cable attached.

Sphere= most compression resistant shape.

No windows because they would be a big failure point so you can’t actually see the Titanic or Titan sub but inside you have an iPad that gives you an animation of what the wrecks probably look like as you get near it. And you can watch Netflix on the way down.


You're not an engineer are you?


I am a visionary entrepreneur. I didn’t go to MIT, but the people who work for me do.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 18:09     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:I know the ocean is vast, but what harm could the implosion have caused if there were nearby boats on the surface? Could it have caused harm to someone unsuspecting nearby, or was it contained as an underwater event?


There were floating buoys above that didn't detect anything, so it looks like it was contained.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 18:09     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:I know the ocean is vast, but what harm could the implosion have caused if there were nearby boats on the surface? Could it have caused harm to someone unsuspecting nearby, or was it contained as an underwater event?

It was almost 2 miles under water and the sub was the size of an minivan.Exactly what do you think would have happened to a surface vessel?
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 18:06     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
I know the ocean is vast, but what harm could the implosion have caused if there were nearby boats on the surface? Could it have caused harm to someone unsuspecting nearby, or was it contained as an underwater event?
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 17:55     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When will OceanGate’s competitors start offering $250,000 tours on submersibles to see the wreck of the Titan sub?


So, they was my idea, except I would do it as a single-passenger perfect sphere made of carbon fiber.

They seal you into a ball and toss. You into the ocean with a big cable attached.

Sphere= most compression resistant shape.

No windows because they would be a big failure point so you can’t actually see the Titanic or Titan sub but inside you have an iPad that gives you an animation of what the wrecks probably look like as you get near it. And you can watch Netflix on the way down.


You're not an engineer are you?


I take it back. I read your comment wrong. I agree with you, actually.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2023 17:54     Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When will OceanGate’s competitors start offering $250,000 tours on submersibles to see the wreck of the Titan sub?


So, they was my idea, except I would do it as a single-passenger perfect sphere made of carbon fiber.

They seal you into a ball and toss. You into the ocean with a big cable attached.

Sphere= most compression resistant shape.

No windows because they would be a big failure point so you can’t actually see the Titanic or Titan sub but inside you have an iPad that gives you an animation of what the wrecks probably look like as you get near it. And you can watch Netflix on the way down.


You're not an engineer are you?