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Post 10/30/2019 12:40     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

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Anonymous wrote:NPR: State Dept's Catherine Croft to testify today that during her time at NSC she got "multiple calls from lobbyist Robert Livingston, who told me that Ambassador Yovanovitch should be fired" and that he called her "Obama holdover...associated with George Soros."


Why should anyone care about this? Who is Robert Livingston?


You think Livingston was calling Croft out of the blue, on his dime? This isn't happening in a vacuum - Livingston was directed to do this, probably by Giuliani in his shadow operation.


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/27/trump-envoy-met-with-ukraine-leaders-ex-rival-year-before-call-in-impeachment-probe.html

"One of the organizations that helped Tymoshenko get in touch with U.S. officials in the buildup to the Ukrainian election was an obscure limited liability company called Innovative Technology & Business Consulting. To arrange the meeting with Volker, they hired lobbyists out of The Livingston Group, a Washington lobbying firm that was founded by Robert Livingston, a Republican who resigned from Congress in 1998 after admitting to cheating on his wife.

"The meeting between Volker and Tymoshenko took place in December 2018, according to a schedule on a lobbying disclosure report. Livingston, along with his colleague Cathryn Kingsbury, accompanied the former prime minister.

"For those involved with setting up the meeting, there was skepticism as to how the pro-Tymoshenko group was being funded. There was also acknowledgment that she was trying to use her visits to the United States as a way to gain favorable attention from potential Western allies before the general election.

“She came here, and she was basically trying to get some favorable attention among U.S. leaders,” Livingston said in an interview. “You ever been on a campaign trail? You talk to everybody you can, and you hope to generate support,” he added.

"Livingston went on to define the meeting as “congenial” and, because he says the two spoke mainly in Ukrainian, he could not definitely say what specifically was discussed.

“I didn’t understand it, but I set it up,” he said.

Innovative Technology & Business Consulting was led by an associate of Tymoshenko’s, Sergei Krasnitsk. Livingston said he never received an explanation as to who was funding the firm.

“There were other people funding it. I asked on several occasions and never found out. We would’ve liked to have known,” he said. A contract signed in June of that year between Livingston and the company shows the firm was paid $50,000 each month. Livingston noted the LLC is no longer one of his firm’s clients.


Secretive LLCs obscure Ukrainian foreign influence operation funding
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2018/09/secretive-foreign-influence-money-trail/

On May 7, 2018, a limited liability corporation named ITBC LLC was formed in the state of Maryland. Weeks later, using the name Innovative Technology and Business Consulting, the LLC had already inked a $50,000-per-month contract—including a six-figure payment upfront at the time of signing—to pay the Livingston Group, a lobbying firm run by former Congressman Bob Livingston (R-La.) for “government affairs representation and lobbying services before the federal government on promotional issues related to Ukraine and any other matters mutually agreed upon.”

The Livingston Group’s FARA registration paperwork primarily refers to the foreign principal’s name as “Innovative Technology and Business Consulting LLC,” but parts of their contract on file with the Justice Department refers to the entity as “International Technology and Business Consulting LLC” and Maryland business records simply refer to the entity by its initials, “ITBC LLC.”

ITBC LLC has no website under any of its currently known nom de plumes and Maryland’s business entity search engine lists the office address as a suite in Pikesville that houses other LLCs, law firms, and provides “serviced offices to rent.” The LLC’s resident agent is Sergei Krasnitsk, whose signature is also on the contract with Livingston Group in FARA records, according to FARA disclosures on file with the Department of Justice and made available through the Center for Responsive Politics’ Foreign Lobby Watch tool. Krasnitsk is also listed as an agent for another Maryland company called 4G Development which was incorporated in 2011.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 12:35     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:NPR: State Dept's Catherine Croft to testify today that during her time at NSC she got "multiple calls from lobbyist Robert Livingston, who told me that Ambassador Yovanovitch should be fired" and that he called her "Obama holdover...associated with George Soros."


Why should anyone care about this? Who is Robert Livingston?


You think Livingston was calling Croft out of the blue, on his dime? This isn't happening in a vacuum - Livingston was directed to do this, probably by Giuliani in his shadow operation.


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/27/trump-envoy-met-with-ukraine-leaders-ex-rival-year-before-call-in-impeachment-probe.html

"One of the organizations that helped Tymoshenko get in touch with U.S. officials in the buildup to the Ukrainian election was an obscure limited liability company called Innovative Technology & Business Consulting. To arrange the meeting with Volker, they hired lobbyists out of The Livingston Group, a Washington lobbying firm that was founded by Robert Livingston, a Republican who resigned from Congress in 1998 after admitting to cheating on his wife.

"The meeting between Volker and Tymoshenko took place in December 2018, according to a schedule on a lobbying disclosure report. Livingston, along with his colleague Cathryn Kingsbury, accompanied the former prime minister.

"For those involved with setting up the meeting, there was skepticism as to how the pro-Tymoshenko group was being funded. There was also acknowledgment that she was trying to use her visits to the United States as a way to gain favorable attention from potential Western allies before the general election.

“She came here, and she was basically trying to get some favorable attention among U.S. leaders,” Livingston said in an interview. “You ever been on a campaign trail? You talk to everybody you can, and you hope to generate support,” he added.

"Livingston went on to define the meeting as “congenial” and, because he says the two spoke mainly in Ukrainian, he could not definitely say what specifically was discussed.

“I didn’t understand it, but I set it up,” he said.

Innovative Technology & Business Consulting was led by an associate of Tymoshenko’s, Sergei Krasnitsk. Livingston said he never received an explanation as to who was funding the firm.

“There were other people funding it. I asked on several occasions and never found out. We would’ve liked to have known,” he said. A contract signed in June of that year between Livingston and the company shows the firm was paid $50,000 each month. Livingston noted the LLC is no longer one of his firm’s clients.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 12:32     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

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Anonymous wrote:NPR: State Dept's Catherine Croft to testify today that during her time at NSC she got "multiple calls from lobbyist Robert Livingston, who told me that Ambassador Yovanovitch should be fired" and that he called her "Obama holdover...associated with George Soros."


Why should anyone care about this? Who is Robert Livingston?


Because it is a stark example of how ugly partisanship and a right wing conspiracy about a political donor can contribute to ousting a highly respected ambassador. People actually believe it and peddle it around, without necessarily realizing that behind the scenes, they are being used for purposes that have nothing to do with these fake conspiracies.


Any chance that's who Yovanovich is? There are plenty of Obama holdovers sabotaging this administration.

She is not "an Obama holdover." She is a career civil servant who served in top posts under both Republican and Democratic administrations.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 12:30     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

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Anonymous wrote:NPR: State Dept's Catherine Croft to testify today that during her time at NSC she got "multiple calls from lobbyist Robert Livingston, who told me that Ambassador Yovanovitch should be fired" and that he called her "Obama holdover...associated with George Soros."


Why should anyone care about this? Who is Robert Livingston?


Because it is a stark example of how ugly partisanship and a right wing conspiracy about a political donor can contribute to ousting a highly respected ambassador. People actually believe it and peddle it around, without necessarily realizing that behind the scenes, they are being used for purposes that have nothing to do with these fake conspiracies.


Any chance that's who Yovanovich is? There are plenty of Obama holdovers sabotaging this administration.

Yovanovitch is a career foreign service officer who has served under six Presidents.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 12:28     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

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Anonymous wrote:NPR: State Dept's Catherine Croft to testify today that during her time at NSC she got "multiple calls from lobbyist Robert Livingston, who told me that Ambassador Yovanovitch should be fired" and that he called her "Obama holdover...associated with George Soros."


Why should anyone care about this? Who is Robert Livingston?


Because it is a stark example of how ugly partisanship and a right wing conspiracy about a political donor can contribute to ousting a highly respected ambassador. People actually believe it and peddle it around, without necessarily realizing that behind the scenes, they are being used for purposes that have nothing to do with these fake conspiracies.


Any chance that's who Yovanovich is? There are plenty of Obama holdovers sabotaging this administration.


No.

Sorry.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 12:27     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:NPR: State Dept's Catherine Croft to testify today that during her time at NSC she got "multiple calls from lobbyist Robert Livingston, who told me that Ambassador Yovanovitch should be fired" and that he called her "Obama holdover...associated with George Soros."


Why should anyone care about this? Who is Robert Livingston?


Because it is a stark example of how ugly partisanship and a right wing conspiracy about a political donor can contribute to ousting a highly respected ambassador. People actually believe it and peddle it around, without necessarily realizing that behind the scenes, they are being used for purposes that have nothing to do with these fake conspiracies.


Any chance that's who Yovanovich is? There are plenty of Obama holdovers sabotaging this administration.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 12:12     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

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Anonymous wrote:NPR: State Dept's Catherine Croft to testify today that during her time at NSC she got "multiple calls from lobbyist Robert Livingston, who told me that Ambassador Yovanovitch should be fired" and that he called her "Obama holdover...associated with George Soros."


Why should anyone care about this? Who is Robert Livingston?


Is he the Robert from the Guiliani butt dial call?

Livingston has lobbied for Turkey before but I’m pretty sure Rudy would call him Bob, not Robert.




Unless he was speaking in stupid code.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 12:10     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

From the Wall Street Journal re: Robert Livingston:

In June 2018, Justice Department records show, Mr. Livingston registered to represent a firm linked to Yulia Tymoshenko—the former Ukrainian prime minister who at the time was running for president against Volodymyr Zelensky, the current president—and Mr. Poroshenko. Over the following months, Mr. Livingston contacted dozens of government officials in an effort to arrange meetings for Ms. Tymoshenko in Washington, among them Messrs. Trump, Bolton and Volker as well as Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, according to public records.

Ms. Tymoshenko met with Messrs. Volker and Anderson in December 2018, accompanied by Mr. Livingston, the records show. The following day, another lobbyist at Mr. Livingston’s firm introduced her to Mr. Giuliani. They discussed, among other matters, “the provision of US assistance to Ukraine,” according to her website.

It couldn’t be determined if Mr. Livingston was pushing for the ambassador’s removal on Ms. Tymoshenko’s behalf. Ms. Yovanovitch, during her tenure, had fraught relations with some senior Ukrainian officials, who viewed her as aligned with Mr. Poroshenko. When Ms. Tymoshenko came in third in the presidential election this spring, she accused Mr. Poroshenko of cheating.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 11:47     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NPR: State Dept's Catherine Croft to testify today that during her time at NSC she got "multiple calls from lobbyist Robert Livingston, who told me that Ambassador Yovanovitch should be fired" and that he called her "Obama holdover...associated with George Soros."


Why should anyone care about this? Who is Robert Livingston?


Is he the Robert from the Guiliani butt dial call?

Livingston has lobbied for Turkey before but I’m pretty sure Rudy would call him Bob, not Robert.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 11:36     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

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Anonymous wrote:Livingston was in Congress and was leader. He quit when he was outed as having an extramarital affaire.

Did he represent Louisiana? I don't remember that much.


OMG yes - Bob Livingston was in line for the speakership after Newt resigned and the next Speaker was going to lead the Clinton impeachment. Then it came out that Livingston was also having an affair and he resigned. This happened to at least one more GOP Speaker candidate before they found one who wasn’t having an affair to lead the impeachment of the President for having an affair.

The speaker they eventually chose had molested teenaged boys for years.


That's Grand.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 11:19     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:Livingston was in Congress and was leader. He quit when he was outed as having an extramarital affaire.

Did he represent Louisiana? I don't remember that much.


OMG yes - Bob Livingston was in line for the speakership after Newt resigned and the next Speaker was going to lead the Clinton impeachment. Then it came out that Livingston was also having an affair and he resigned. This happened to at least one more GOP Speaker candidate before they found one who wasn’t having an affair to lead the impeachment of the President for having an affair.

The speaker they eventually chose had molested teenaged boys for years.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 11:10     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NPR: State Dept's Catherine Croft to testify today that during her time at NSC she got "multiple calls from lobbyist Robert Livingston, who told me that Ambassador Yovanovitch should be fired" and that he called her "Obama holdover...associated with George Soros."


Why should anyone care about this? Who is Robert Livingston?





Is he the Robert from the Guiliani butt dial call?


Interesting.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 11:09     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Livingston was in Congress and was leader. He quit when he was outed as having an extramarital affaire.

Did he represent Louisiana? I don't remember that much.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 10:46     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NPR: State Dept's Catherine Croft to testify today that during her time at NSC she got "multiple calls from lobbyist Robert Livingston, who told me that Ambassador Yovanovitch should be fired" and that he called her "Obama holdover...associated with George Soros."


Why should anyone care about this? Who is Robert Livingston?





Is he the Robert from the Guiliani butt dial call?
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2019 10:44     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NPR: State Dept's Catherine Croft to testify today that during her time at NSC she got "multiple calls from lobbyist Robert Livingston, who told me that Ambassador Yovanovitch should be fired" and that he called her "Obama holdover...associated with George Soros."


Why should anyone care about this? Who is Robert Livingston?


You think Livingston was calling Croft out of the blue, on his dime? This isn't happening in a vacuum - Livingston was directed to do this, probably by Giuliani in his shadow operation.