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Anonymous wrote:MAGA really upset about where period products are located?
Aren't there more pressing issues to deal with?

He advocated for period products in every bathroom because of transgenderism. THAT'S what repubs are upset about. Just call it what it is, cowards.

I grew up in the 80's and 90's. Funny how this was never a topic one would even consider talking about which shows you have crazy things have become.

The 80s was 40+ years ago. This is like being shocked that values became more progressive in the 1980s compared to the 1940s.

Beyond your crazy time perception, can you explain how having menstrual products available in mens rooms hurts anyone? It can only help right? Can you explain the harm being done?

First is cost. How many people using the boy's bathroom will even need access to these products? Why not have them available at the nurse's office in case someone needs it? The second issue is boys will be boys and will most likely mess with the products. I read about one middle school where they ripped the dispenser off the wall in less than an hour of being placed in the boy's bathroom.

These concerns seem so minor compared to the reactions from the right-wing. Are you really this pissed off that boys might act like idiots in the bathrooms? If that’s what you’re worried about, why not address behavior issues in boys instead of blowing up a thread on a VP pick?

No but you seem weirdly pissed off. I was simply responding to the previous poster about the issue having these products in a boy's bathroom. Not exactly blowing up a thread .

I’m not angry - I’m genuinely puzzled about why this matters so much. And click back through this thread, it’s been stick on this issue for pages now.

It’s a point of obsession for weird, sad people, that’s why.

But I think this about Walz (and he’s my governor for now). He’s an inherently decent person and witty and intelligent, to boot. He’s got that dad/grandpa energy that so many people have had absent in their lives as their actual dads and grandfathers went down angry right wing rabbit holes.

So powerful

This makes me so grateful that the men in my life haven't fallen into this terrible trap. They are more Walz than Rush or JD, for sure.

Anonymous wrote:Kamala has to control the messages her people are putting out. Someone just sent a fund raising message saying that as Gun Czar, Kamala Harris had controlled gun violence in the United States. I am involved with the Brady Initiative and did a quick search showing that homicides were around 15,000 in 2019 and around 21,000 in 2021. Getting basic stuff wrong is not helpful.

Who sent that message? I didn't get anything. Sounds fake.

Kamala has to control the messages her people are putting out. Someone just sent a fund raising message saying that as Gun Czar, Kamala Harris had controlled gun violence in the United States. I am involved with the Brady Initiative and did a quick search showing that homicides were around 15,000 in 2019 and around 21,000 in 2021. Getting basic stuff wrong is not helpful.

Putting the trans issue aside, there is a subset of voters who believe the government should provide period products to all women.

IMO, providing it to public schools is a baby step towards a nanny government where people expect all their basic needs to be handed to them without any effort on their part.

This is why the Harris/Walz ticket scares me. It’s a small baby step towards bigger and bigger bloated government.

This is a very meaningful ticket!

First, Kamala representing POC and women - two groups that have always been marginalized but increasingly so since the rise of the radical right wing. As a woman, I never want to see our chance at leadership taken like it was in 2016 and will work to get out the vote in any way I can. I have never attended a political rally in my life, but I am considering driving far to attend one to support them.

Second, dare I say Walz actually makes it feel "ok" to be a liberal in Midwest. As a Midwestern-raised liberal who has now lived on both coasts, it is hard for me to find my place. Trump divided up my homeland and made it so angry and aggressive. I am proud to hear Walz speak and happy to see someone who represents the midwest that is not an Evangelical extremist.

I personally think we should just ignore the MAGA trolls on the politics threads. What's the point? Let's just focus on substance.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA really upset about where period products are located?
Aren't there more pressing issues to deal with?

He advocated for period products in every bathroom because of transgenderism. THAT'S what repubs are upset about. Just call it what it is, cowards.

I grew up in the 80's and 90's. Funny how this was never a topic one would even consider talking about which shows you have crazy things have become.

The 80s was 40+ years ago. This is like being shocked that values became more progressive in the 1980s compared to the 1940s.

Beyond your crazy time perception, can you explain how having menstrual products available in mens rooms hurts anyone? It can only help right? Can you explain the harm being done?

First is cost. How many people using the boy's bathroom will even need access to these products? Why not have them available at the nurse's office in case someone needs it? The second issue is boys will be boys and will most likely mess with the products. I read about one middle school where they ripped the dispenser off the wall in less than an hour of being placed in the boy's bathroom.

These concerns seem so minor compared to the reactions from the right-wing. Are you really this pissed off that boys might act like idiots in the bathrooms? If that’s what you’re worried about, why not address behavior issues in boys instead of blowing up a thread on a VP pick?

No but you seem weirdly pissed off. I was simply responding to the previous poster about the issue having these products in a boy's bathroom. Not exactly blowing up a thread .

I’m not angry - I’m genuinely puzzled about why this matters so much. And click back through this thread, it’s been stick on this issue for pages now.

It’s a point of obsession for weird, sad people, that’s why.

But I think this about Walz (and he’s my governor for now). He’s an inherently decent person and witty and intelligent, to boot. He’s got that dad/grandpa energy that so many people have had absent in their lives as their actual dads and grandfathers went down angry right wing rabbit holes.

So powerful

In so many ways they are the anti-family party... Thanksgiving has never been the same since they have gained power.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA really upset about where period products are located?
Aren't there more pressing issues to deal with?

He advocated for period products in every bathroom because of transgenderism. THAT'S what repubs are upset about. Just call it what it is, cowards.

I grew up in the 80's and 90's. Funny how this was never a topic one would even consider talking about which shows you have crazy things have become.

The 80s was 40+ years ago. This is like being shocked that values became more progressive in the 1980s compared to the 1940s.

Beyond your crazy time perception, can you explain how having menstrual products available in mens rooms hurts anyone? It can only help right? Can you explain the harm being done?

First is cost. How many people using the boy's bathroom will even need access to these products? Why not have them available at the nurse's office in case someone needs it? The second issue is boys will be boys and will most likely mess with the products. I read about one middle school where they ripped the dispenser off the wall in less than an hour of being placed in the boy's bathroom.

These concerns seem so minor compared to the reactions from the right-wing. Are you really this pissed off that boys might act like idiots in the bathrooms? If that’s what you’re worried about, why not address behavior issues in boys instead of blowing up a thread on a VP pick?

No but you seem weirdly pissed off. I was simply responding to the previous poster about the issue having these products in a boy's bathroom. Not exactly blowing up a thread .

I’m not angry - I’m genuinely puzzled about why this matters so much. And click back through this thread, it’s been stick on this issue for pages now.

It’s a point of obsession for weird, sad people, that’s why.

But I think this about Walz (and he’s my governor for now). He’s an inherently decent person and witty and intelligent, to boot. He’s got that dad/grandpa energy that so many people have had absent in their lives as their actual dads and grandfathers went down angry right wing rabbit holes.

So powerful

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA really upset about where period products are located?
Aren't there more pressing issues to deal with?

He advocated for period products in every bathroom because of transgenderism. THAT'S what repubs are upset about. Just call it what it is, cowards.

I grew up in the 80's and 90's. Funny how this was never a topic one would even consider talking about which shows you have crazy things have become.

The 80s was 40+ years ago. This is like being shocked that values became more progressive in the 1980s compared to the 1940s.

Beyond your crazy time perception, can you explain how having menstrual products available in mens rooms hurts anyone? It can only help right? Can you explain the harm being done?

First is cost. How many people using the boy's bathroom will even need access to these products? Why not have them available at the nurse's office in case someone needs it? The second issue is boys will be boys and will most likely mess with the products. I read about one middle school where they ripped the dispenser off the wall in less than an hour of being placed in the boy's bathroom.

These concerns seem so minor compared to the reactions from the right-wing. Are you really this pissed off that boys might act like idiots in the bathrooms? If that’s what you’re worried about, why not address behavior issues in boys instead of blowing up a thread on a VP pick?

No but you seem weirdly pissed off. I was simply responding to the previous poster about the issue having these products in a boy's bathroom. Not exactly blowing up a thread .

I’m not angry - I’m genuinely puzzled about why this matters so much. And click back through this thread, it’s been stick on this issue for pages now.

It’s a point of obsession for weird, sad people, that’s why.

But I think this about Walz (and he’s my governor for now). He’s an inherently decent person and witty and intelligent, to boot. He’s got that dad/grandpa energy that so many people have had absent in their lives as their actual dads and grandfathers went down angry right wing rabbit holes.

This never occurred to me. Wow, just wow.

jsteele wrote:Folks, just ignore the period products issue. It is true that Governor Tim Walz has been extremely welcoming of trans individuals. You can either applaud him for that — as I do — or dislike him for that. Arguing about specific policies is not going to change the big picture. If you debate these policies, you are simply falling into the transphobe's trap. If you agreed with them that one specific policy is wrong, they would simply start arguing about another specific policy. In the end, they want no accommodation for trans people. So don't waste time debating the little stuff. Focus on the big picture. Walz supports trans rights. Vance does not. If that issue is your priority, the choice is clear.

He also unequivocally supports abortion rights, something Vance does not, and I’ve never heard Walz make any scathing comments about childless people and how they’re worthless and sociopaths. That’s Vance’s whole shtick.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA really upset about where period products are located?
Aren't there more pressing issues to deal with?

He advocated for period products in every bathroom because of transgenderism. THAT'S what repubs are upset about. Just call it what it is, cowards.

I grew up in the 80's and 90's. Funny how this was never a topic one would even consider talking about which shows you have crazy things have become.

The 80s was 40+ years ago. This is like being shocked that values became more progressive in the 1980s compared to the 1940s.

Beyond your crazy time perception, can you explain how having menstrual products available in mens rooms hurts anyone? It can only help right? Can you explain the harm being done?

First is cost. How many people using the boy's bathroom will even need access to these products? Why not have them available at the nurse's office in case someone needs it? The second issue is boys will be boys and will most likely mess with the products. I read about one middle school where they ripped the dispenser off the wall in less than an hour of being placed in the boy's bathroom.

These concerns seem so minor compared to the reactions from the right-wing. Are you really this pissed off that boys might act like idiots in the bathrooms? If that’s what you’re worried about, why not address behavior issues in boys instead of blowing up a thread on a VP pick?

No but you seem weirdly pissed off. I was simply responding to the previous poster about the issue having these products in a boy's bathroom. Not exactly blowing up a thread .

I’m not angry - I’m genuinely puzzled about why this matters so much. And click back through this thread, it’s been stick on this issue for pages now.

It’s a point of obsession for weird, sad people, that’s why.

But I think this about Walz (and he’s my governor for now). He’s an inherently decent person and witty and intelligent, to boot. He’s got that dad/grandpa energy that so many people have had absent in their lives as their actual dads and grandfathers went down angry right wing rabbit holes.

What’s funny is there was a giant ad for menstrual pads on the political forum page before I clicked on this thread 😂.

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jsteele wrote:Folks, just ignore the period products issue. It is true that Governor Tim Walz has been extremely welcoming of trans individuals. You can either applaud him for that — as I do — or dislike him for that. Arguing about specific policies is not going to change the big picture. If you debate these policies, you are simply falling into the transphobe's trap. If you agreed with them that one specific policy is wrong, they would simply start arguing about another specific policy. In the end, they want no accommodation for trans people. So don't waste time debating the little stuff. Focus on the big picture. Walz supports trans rights. Vance does not. If that issue is your priority, the choice is clear.

Could we also please continue to give kudos to Walz for addressing an issue known to keep women and girls from going to school? Because that’s big even if they’re making fun of him for it.

I think plenty of posters have done that in this thread.

jsteele wrote:Folks, just ignore the period products issue. It is true that Governor Tim Walz has been extremely welcoming of trans individuals. You can either applaud him for that — as I do — or dislike him for that. Arguing about specific policies is not going to change the big picture. If you debate these policies, you are simply falling into the transphobe's trap. If you agreed with them that one specific policy is wrong, they would simply start arguing about another specific policy. In the end, they want no accommodation for trans people. So don't waste time debating the little stuff. Focus on the big picture. Walz supports trans rights. Vance does not. If that issue is your priority, the choice is clear.

Could we also please continue to give kudos to Walz for addressing an issue known to keep women and girls from going to school? Because that’s big even if they’re making fun of him for it.

Folks, just ignore the period products issue. It is true that Governor Tim Walz has been extremely welcoming of trans individuals. You can either applaud him for that — as I do — or dislike him for that. Arguing about specific policies is not going to change the big picture. If you debate these policies, you are simply falling into the transphobe's trap. If you agreed with them that one specific policy is wrong, they would simply start arguing about another specific policy. In the end, they want no accommodation for trans people. So don't waste time debating the little stuff. Focus on the big picture. Walz supports trans rights. Vance does not. If that issue is your priority, the choice is clear.