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“If it also isn’t true for a poor Christian mom in Haiti, it’s not true.” - Jen Hatmaker

Did she really say that? Good Lord has she managed to stray far from her former self!

Also, I really loved her rebranding of "privilege" as a "grand gesture to yourself." That latest video is wading uncomfortably into Rachel Hollis territory.

I think that was originally a Sarah Bessey quote, but I'm not 100% sure.

I used to really like Jen. And as a more progressive Christian, it didn't bother me when she started speaking about social justice issues. I viewed it as part of the growth from the woman who once wrote 'Seven.' And yet I think that's also when she started to go off the rails. Her OG audience didn't like the new 'speaking up about issues' Jen. (And maybe she had some learning to do about HOW to speak up...balancing passion vs. coming across like we are scolding can be a tricky thing.) As her faith shifted she entered that territory of "Who am I now?" Most of us get to do that in private. But if she wanted to hold on to her platform, her writing, everything that she thought made her JEN, she had to work through it in public. It has not gone well. I see her as someone trying on different personas trying to figure out who she is, which has only been complicated by her divorce. Is she social justice warrior Jen? (I use the term in love, as I'm a bit of an SJW myself.) Is she Wine Mom Jen? Is she Author Jen? Is she Fab and Fifty Jen? (wait...how old is she?) Is she Influencer Jen? I think she is someone who is struggling with who she is on all fronts. Everything that used to define her is falling away, her platform, her marriage, her children (she's only 1 kid away from being an empty nester, and that's a weird place to be when you've spent almost 30 years with kids underfoot). So she's trying to figure out who her audience is now, and I'm not sure she's got the support she needs to do it in a healthy way. She's throwing stuff at a wall and hoping something sticks.

I do not expect her to be able to sustain this forever. She will crack sooner or later. She needs to set aside the platform, trust that if it's meant to be she will be able to rebuild it when she's ready, and go do some heavy work with a therapist and people who care about her to figure out who she really is. She can come back when she is a more mature, thoughtful Jen.

This is how I feel. I agree with her on many issues and felt drawn to her when she started speaking out. I have appreciated her voice and have seen that she’s taken on some risk to speak out in evangelical Christian spaces. However, I cannot relate to “me camps” and promo codes. I don’t like all of the JH hate in this thread, but I do understand where it’s coming from.

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“If it also isn’t true for a poor Christian mom in Haiti, it’s not true.” - Jen Hatmaker

Did she really say that? Good Lord has she managed to stray far from her former self!

Also, I really loved her rebranding of "privilege" as a "grand gesture to yourself." That latest video is wading uncomfortably into Rachel Hollis territory.

I think that was originally a Sarah Bessey quote, but I'm not 100% sure.

I used to really like Jen. And as a more progressive Christian, it didn't bother me when she started speaking about social justice issues. I viewed it as part of the growth from the woman who once wrote 'Seven.' And yet I think that's also when she started to go off the rails. Her OG audience didn't like the new 'speaking up about issues' Jen. (And maybe she had some learning to do about HOW to speak up...balancing passion vs. coming across like we are scolding can be a tricky thing.) As her faith shifted she entered that territory of "Who am I now?" Most of us get to do that in private. But if she wanted to hold on to her platform, her writing, everything that she thought made her JEN, she had to work through it in public. It has not gone well. I see her as someone trying on different personas trying to figure out who she is, which has only been complicated by her divorce. Is she social justice warrior Jen? (I use the term in love, as I'm a bit of an SJW myself.) Is she Wine Mom Jen? Is she Author Jen? Is she Fab and Fifty Jen? (wait...how old is she?) Is she Influencer Jen? I think she is someone who is struggling with who she is on all fronts. Everything that used to define her is falling away, her platform, her marriage, her children (she's only 1 kid away from being an empty nester, and that's a weird place to be when you've spent almost 30 years with kids underfoot). So she's trying to figure out who her audience is now, and I'm not sure she's got the support she needs to do it in a healthy way. She's throwing stuff at a wall and hoping something sticks.

I do not expect her to be able to sustain this forever. She will crack sooner or later. She needs to set aside the platform, trust that if it's meant to be she will be able to rebuild it when she's ready, and go do some heavy work with a therapist and people who care about her to figure out who she really is. She can come back when she is a more mature, thoughtful Jen.

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Anonymous wrote:

“If it also isn’t true for a poor Christian mom in Haiti, it’s not true.” - Jen Hatmaker

Did she really say that? Good Lord has she managed to stray far from her former self!

Also, I really loved her rebranding of "privilege" as a "grand gesture to yourself." That latest video is wading uncomfortably into Rachel Hollis territory.

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Anonymous wrote:"If you just tell yourself you'll be delighted, that is what will happen."

Uhhh, my former clinically depressed self begs to differ. Holy toxic positivity batman!

“If it also isn’t true for a poor Christian mom in Haiti, it’s not true.” - Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous wrote:"If you just tell yourself you'll be delighted, that is what will happen."

Uhhh, my former clinically depressed self begs to differ. Holy toxic positivity batman!

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Anonymous wrote:Big Sis’ Advice For Vacationing Solo MeCamp Style:

1. It helps to have some money. If you are a bit low in cash, find a nice grift.

2. Use your fledgling celebrity to get a speaker gig at a conference. You might even be able to get some perks like a meal or even a night at a hotel or two.

3. Go to that place.

4. Walk around in public and in a husky whisper tell your “tribe” how magical it all is. Talk up supposed magical interactions with complete strangers at coffee shops and bars.

5. Each day promo code the living shit out of your sneaks, jackets, t-shirts, and skirts. Literally plan your packing with only things you can cynically shill later on.

You forgot to mention that you have to constantly touch your hair.

Man, her hair looks FRIED in the latest video. Yikes. Blondes don’t have more fun when all their hair is breaking off, Jen. 😬

I noticed that too. It looks awful.

Please Jen get help. You were cute and funny once.

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Anonymous wrote:Big Sis’ Advice For Vacationing Solo MeCamp Style:

1. It helps to have some money. If you are a bit low in cash, find a nice grift.

2. Use your fledgling celebrity to get a speaker gig at a conference. You might even be able to get some perks like a meal or even a night at a hotel or two.

3. Go to that place.

4. Walk around in public and in a husky whisper tell your “tribe” how magical it all is. Talk up supposed magical interactions with complete strangers at coffee shops and bars.

5. Each day promo code the living shit out of your sneaks, jackets, t-shirts, and skirts. Literally plan your packing with only things you can cynically shill later on.

You forgot to mention that you have to constantly touch your hair.

Man, her hair looks FRIED in the latest video. Yikes. Blondes don’t have more fun when all their hair is breaking off, Jen. 😬

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Anonymous wrote:Big Sis’ Advice For Vacationing Solo MeCamp Style:

1. It helps to have some money. If you are a bit low in cash, find a nice grift.

2. Use your fledgling celebrity to get a speaker gig at a conference. You might even be able to get some perks like a meal or even a night at a hotel or two.

3. Go to that place.

4. Walk around in public and in a husky whisper tell your “tribe” how magical it all is. Talk up supposed magical interactions with complete strangers at coffee shops and bars.

5. Each day promo code the living shit out of your sneaks, jackets, t-shirts, and skirts. Literally plan your packing with only things you can cynically shill later on.

You forgot to mention that you have to constantly touch your hair.