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Anonymous wrote:

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NPR reports Azar restricted testing because Trump made clear he wanted low numbers of confirmed cases.

WOW!!!

I don't like Trump. Period.

That said, there were ALREADY not enough tests. The CDC botched the test kits and refused the WHO test kits WEEKS ago.

The testimony yesterday was so good.

South Korea and America reported it's first cases of Coronavirus within one day of each other in January. In one month, both countries produced their own tests again within days of each other. The CDC sent out test kits across the country and when independent labs tested them, they failed to work. Instead of taking on the WHO test kits, CDC said all tests needed to be sent to their Atlanta lab for testing. The same lab that botched the test to begin with.

South Korea tests 4,000 people per 1 million in their population. America tests 15 people per 1 million in our population.

The kicker. The lead guy in charge of the test and testing in Atlanta that botched this whole thing to begin with, is still in charge there.

Trump didn't restrict testing. There are not enough tests and there have never been enough tests. I hate Trump and want so badly for this to just be his fault, but this is such a deeper and wider problem. .

We need to ALL be way more proactive at getting to the root of our CDC issues that has been ongoing for over a decade now.

Apparently the WHO test kits are not FDA approved.

FDA restrictions were lifted after the cluster in Washington State.

Singapore has developed a rapid result test with 99% accuracy even in asymptomatic people. They open sources the technology and said they want everyone to be able to access it for the good of humanity.

Yet here we are with our botched kits and we get excited every time some random university or lab says they’ve figured out a way to test it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

NPR reports Azar restricted testing because Trump made clear he wanted low numbers of confirmed cases.

WOW!!!

I don't like Trump. Period.

That said, there were ALREADY not enough tests. The CDC botched the test kits and refused the WHO test kits WEEKS ago.

The testimony yesterday was so good.

South Korea and America reported it's first cases of Coronavirus within one day of each other in January. In one month, both countries produced their own tests again within days of each other. The CDC sent out test kits across the country and when independent labs tested them, they failed to work. Instead of taking on the WHO test kits, CDC said all tests needed to be sent to their Atlanta lab for testing. The same lab that botched the test to begin with.

South Korea tests 4,000 people per 1 million in their population. America tests 15 people per 1 million in our population.

The kicker. The lead guy in charge of the test and testing in Atlanta that botched this whole thing to begin with, is still in charge there.

Trump didn't restrict testing. There are not enough tests and there have never been enough tests. I hate Trump and want so badly for this to just be his fault, but this is such a deeper and wider problem. .

We need to ALL be way more proactive at getting to the root of our CDC issues that has been ongoing for over a decade now.

Apparently the WHO test kits are not FDA approved.

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Anonymous wrote:I know this isn't helpful, but maybe if I vent here, I will feel better.

Is anyone else mad at China? All this death and suffering because of unsanitary markets that should have been shut down after SARS. Plus initial government dishonesty.

Just seems so unnecessary .

I am.

Omg me too. F^ck China and their dirty meat markets.

Yeah DH and I were just talking about this. I’m not upset with the Chinese people. If anything, I feel bad for them. I’m so angry at the awful Chinese government. They knew these markets were a breeding ground for new viruses and did nothing to regulate or shut them down even though we’ve had close calls before. And they weren’t immediately honest with the rest of the world causing us to lose precious time preparing elsewhere. Once this is all over, I hope the rest of the world demands they become a better global citizen, and frankly we need to stop relying on them for the import of so many goods. Sure, we’ve gotten a lot of things for cheap, but it comes at the expense of a vulnerable supply chain for important things like medicines.

This is a good article explaining the (Chinese) forces at play: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/opinion/sunday/coronavirus-china-cause.html

This would be great to have some manufacturing jobs back. https://www.wsj.com/articles/altus-capital-co-founder-says-coronavirus-could-drive-more-manufacturing-back-to-u-s-11584053085

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-military-brought-coronavirus-to-wuhan-chinese-diplomat-claims/ar-BB117L5m

US military brought coronavirus to Wuhan, Chinese diplomat claims

Well Spanish Flu did start in Kansas.

But this is probably tit for tat.

PR game- https://thehill.com/policy/international/487308-china-pushing-conspiracy-theory-us-army-bringing-coronavirus-wuhan?amp

China, pushing conspiracy theory, accuses US Army of bringing coronavirus to Wuhan

Changing the narrative.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-military-brought-coronavirus-to-wuhan-chinese-diplomat-claims/ar-BB117L5m

US military brought coronavirus to Wuhan, Chinese diplomat claims

Well Spanish Flu did start in Kansas.

But this is probably tit for tat.

Why doesn’t the Spanish flu have another name like Clovid-#.

Anonymous wrote:A ray of hope for the US, our high number of critical care beds.

5% of the ill patients need critical care. 35 beds per 100,000 is very different than 5% (5,000 people).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-military-brought-coronavirus-to-wuhan-chinese-diplomat-claims/ar-BB117L5m

US military brought coronavirus to Wuhan, Chinese diplomat claims

Well Spanish Flu did start in Kansas.

But this is probably tit for tat.

PR game- https://thehill.com/policy/international/487308-china-pushing-conspiracy-theory-us-army-bringing-coronavirus-wuhan?amp

China, pushing conspiracy theory, accuses US Army of bringing coronavirus to Wuhan

Yup. I said this days ago. After a statement like this, you’d think that the media would stop going after the President and realize where the real issues are. Nope.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe the U.K. still has normal international travel, isn’t banning large gatherings, and has stopped testing unless you are severely ill in the hospital. WTH!!!

The virus is there stopping travel won’t stop the virus.

We are seeing clusters here in the US right now. You can say were are not testing enough, but the reality is, if that were the case, our hospitals across the country would overflowing with very sick and dying people, which means if it IS widespread, then it’s mild for most people, i.e. does not require hospitalization. That’s a very good thing. Stopping travel helps to stop new clusters as it’s quite clear per the CDC that it got here that way.

I agree the UK should be encouraging more social isolation. I told my older kids that their older brother is at risk, so they must be more careful about where/who they socialize. I put up a sanitation station by the main entrance so they can sanitize their hands BEFORE entering the house, cutting down on sanitation freakouts INSIDE the house. Non-ill friends can come in so long as they sanitize, but not in large groups. Go take a walk with your friends - the weather is getting nice! Precautions not complete isolation. My husband and I will practice a more austere form of social isolation, because we are in our late 50s.

My kid got pissed at me yesterday because he had to make two trips into his dorm room to get the things he is taking home. I didn’t want to go into the dorms, as it was a large group of potential carriers. My response to him was essentially GFY and get your stuff

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-military-brought-coronavirus-to-wuhan-chinese-diplomat-claims/ar-BB117L5m

US military brought coronavirus to Wuhan, Chinese diplomat claims

Well Spanish Flu did start in Kansas.

But this is probably tit for tat.

PR game- https://thehill.com/policy/international/487308-china-pushing-conspiracy-theory-us-army-bringing-coronavirus-wuhan?amp

China, pushing conspiracy theory, accuses US Army of bringing coronavirus to Wuhan

D.C. schools closed until 4/1.

Anonymous wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-military-brought-coronavirus-to-wuhan-chinese-diplomat-claims/ar-BB117L5m

US military brought coronavirus to Wuhan, Chinese diplomat claims

Well Spanish Flu did start in Kansas.

But this is probably tit for tat.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-military-brought-coronavirus-to-wuhan-chinese-diplomat-claims/ar-BB117L5m

US military brought coronavirus to Wuhan, Chinese diplomat claims

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe the U.K. still has normal international travel, isn’t banning large gatherings, and has stopped testing unless you are severely ill in the hospital. WTH!!!

The virus is there stopping travel won’t stop the virus.

No, it won’t. But wouldn’t it slow the rate and flatten the curve. Fewer people coming into a country means introducing fewer cases and having fewer people to infect 2 new people. Also, what about large gatherings? Same thing, I guess. Doesn’t matter, it’s already there, herd immunity.

Anonymous wrote:A ray of hope for the US, our high number of critical care beds.

True, but to throw a cloud in front of your ray of hope - those beds aren’t empty just waiting for people. I’d suspect at least half of the have critical care people in them. To do otherwise is wasteful from a business perspective.

This is the problem with the virus and why such drastic steps are taken —— the healthcare system isn’t structured to support as many critical care patients as there will be if everyone gets sick at once. Hence ‘flatten the curve’. Otherwise hospital have to triage - or choose - which patients get a bed.