Anonymous
Post 04/23/2025 14:33     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And one of the worst first teams in the league. Meaning that it should be easier for an academy prospect to break through if they were developing them. But they aren't developing them. If you're at DCU, you're in a bad spot. That is just the reality. But you have to try and make the best of it. Which is most likely college soccer, without a scholarship. Just is what it is...


If being at DCU is a bad spot for a youth player, then what about the rest of players in the DMV?
Zero chance?


Uh…we have a problem in the DMV in general. For the size of youth scene, we are just severely lacking in top level production. Instead of being defensive about it, let’s fix it and have a reason to cheer for Loudoun and DCU with local kids. We should absolutely be producing more talent.


This is right. It comes down to one main thing (money) with three parts: 1. Pay to pay clubs have diluted quality 2. Private coaches train for money not for development of game specific skills and 3. DCU doesn't take youth development seriously because it has no money to take it seriously.

Re 1: so many clubs out there with inferior coaching and methodologies and a sole focus on winning means we can't get consistent players through these clubs. And the ones that do come through aren't skilled enough to be pros. These clubs are about making money only. Not developing your kid. Need to cut pay to play clubs in half in the DMV and incentivize them (monetarily) to increase their standards in producing pro players, not college players. This should come from USSF and MLS and they should require minimum player quality standards of these clubs.

Re 2: most private trainers are literally useless. Charging crazy hourly rates for very weak training that doesn't prepare kids for live games under pressure. But everyone is working on cones with their head down thinking their games are progressing. Big misconception fueled by the private trainers who know most parents don't know any better. Rich parents eat it up and get milked week after week. Kill the private training culture and focus on and foster a pick up game culture. Would serve the kids much better over the long term. Playing one hour of small sided pick up is a thousand times better than running through cones or around the track. Something a private trainer would never tell you because they want your money.

Re 3: DCU leadership has never believed in its academy and doesn't properly fund it to produce the talent it claims it aspires to produce. No budget means, lesser paid coaches, less opportunities outside of the normal schedule for the kids to learn in different environments, lesser paid front office (directors etc). Running the academy on the cheap is why DCU is so bad and until they fund it and give a damn it won't change. A player makes it through the pay to play system to DCU and finds that DCU isn't any better and in many ways worse than where they came from. DCU needs to be light years ahead of the pay to play system and it just isn't. This comes down to how much the club invests in the academy. Until it makes some substantial investments in the academy DCU will always be substandard and the kids will get substandard coaching and experiences compared to other MLS academies which puts their development path at a disadvantage. Just the way it is.

The last thing that isn't related to money, but kinda is, is the fact that in the DMV, soccer has become dominated by rich, elitist, privileged, well off, manipulative parents that have made it harder for less well off families to break through. This money culture, which is fueled by people with money, is actually killing the game in our area on two main fronts: 1. The more money you have the more access you have to better training. Meaning that less well off families don't have access and many talented kids don't get opportunities and 2. Rich, privileged kids usually don't have the inherent grit required to become professional footballers but they dominate the upper echelon of the game in the DMV, because of number 1.

Soccer isn't a sport of privilege in the rest of the world. But it is here. Until this changes, DMV will have a harder time producing the same level mod talent. Rich parents don't want their kids to be pro footballers. They want them to go to college. And that is what soccer has become in the DMV, a vehicle for rich parents to manipulate to get their kids into college. THIS in addition to everything above, is why our talent pool isn't as good as it used to be.


Accurate and great summation. Now, regarding #2 which I think is entirely accurate, Target built 10 futsal courts in DC, MD and VA which are not being used like “cages” in London. Any ideas on how to create small sided culture using these courts and SoFive and any other venues?

Any ideas to help get the culture started would be helpful.


For me, anything that requires money to enter is a no go. So SoFive would be a non starter. The courts Target built is a good idea and the question is how to spark playing there regularly. This would start at the neighborhood level in my opinion and I subscribe to if you build it they will come philosophy. Advertise on social media a pick up game three times a week targeted at the neighborhoods where the courts are and see what happens.. the problem is that the soccer establishment is too entrenched in this country a has made the entire system about money. So players may not come out of it isn't some "elite" training or club thing blah blah. No one just plays here like the rest of the world.. if you really want the solution it is US soccer investing millions into building 11v11 and small sided pitches all over the country and incentivizing the kids to play there in some way.. scouts there every day, free coaching etc. investment needs to be made to change a culture that is built in spending money


Can you send a list of the Target futsal courts?


Sure, here are the courts:

▪John Adams ES (VA)⠀
▪James Polk ES (VA) (*double Futsal court)⠀
▪Benning Park (DC)⠀
▪Fort Lincoln Park (DC)⠀
▪Randall Rec Center (DC)⠀
▪Takoma Rec Center (DC)⠀
▪Betty Hyatt Community Park (MD)⠀
▪Desoto Park (MD)⠀
▪Farring-Baybrook Rec Center (MD)

We have only been to Takoma and Fort Lincoln. I only did this research because one of the top players my son has played against in the DMV posted a workout on IG and I recognized the Target court but knew it was not Takoma or Fort Lincoln and I am confident he does not live anywhere near us. We played with him at an event recently in Alexandria so I searched and found these courts were all built in 2019 by Target.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2025 11:46     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And one of the worst first teams in the league. Meaning that it should be easier for an academy prospect to break through if they were developing them. But they aren't developing them. If you're at DCU, you're in a bad spot. That is just the reality. But you have to try and make the best of it. Which is most likely college soccer, without a scholarship. Just is what it is...


If being at DCU is a bad spot for a youth player, then what about the rest of players in the DMV?
Zero chance?


Uh…we have a problem in the DMV in general. For the size of youth scene, we are just severely lacking in top level production. Instead of being defensive about it, let’s fix it and have a reason to cheer for Loudoun and DCU with local kids. We should absolutely be producing more talent.


This is right. It comes down to one main thing (money) with three parts: 1. Pay to pay clubs have diluted quality 2. Private coaches train for money not for development of game specific skills and 3. DCU doesn't take youth development seriously because it has no money to take it seriously.

Re 1: so many clubs out there with inferior coaching and methodologies and a sole focus on winning means we can't get consistent players through these clubs. And the ones that do come through aren't skilled enough to be pros. These clubs are about making money only. Not developing your kid. Need to cut pay to play clubs in half in the DMV and incentivize them (monetarily) to increase their standards in producing pro players, not college players. This should come from USSF and MLS and they should require minimum player quality standards of these clubs.

Re 2: most private trainers are literally useless. Charging crazy hourly rates for very weak training that doesn't prepare kids for live games under pressure. But everyone is working on cones with their head down thinking their games are progressing. Big misconception fueled by the private trainers who know most parents don't know any better. Rich parents eat it up and get milked week after week. Kill the private training culture and focus on and foster a pick up game culture. Would serve the kids much better over the long term. Playing one hour of small sided pick up is a thousand times better than running through cones or around the track. Something a private trainer would never tell you because they want your money.

Re 3: DCU leadership has never believed in its academy and doesn't properly fund it to produce the talent it claims it aspires to produce. No budget means, lesser paid coaches, less opportunities outside of the normal schedule for the kids to learn in different environments, lesser paid front office (directors etc). Running the academy on the cheap is why DCU is so bad and until they fund it and give a damn it won't change. A player makes it through the pay to play system to DCU and finds that DCU isn't any better and in many ways worse than where they came from. DCU needs to be light years ahead of the pay to play system and it just isn't. This comes down to how much the club invests in the academy. Until it makes some substantial investments in the academy DCU will always be substandard and the kids will get substandard coaching and experiences compared to other MLS academies which puts their development path at a disadvantage. Just the way it is.

The last thing that isn't related to money, but kinda is, is the fact that in the DMV, soccer has become dominated by rich, elitist, privileged, well off, manipulative parents that have made it harder for less well off families to break through. This money culture, which is fueled by people with money, is actually killing the game in our area on two main fronts: 1. The more money you have the more access you have to better training. Meaning that less well off families don't have access and many talented kids don't get opportunities and 2. Rich, privileged kids usually don't have the inherent grit required to become professional footballers but they dominate the upper echelon of the game in the DMV, because of number 1.

Soccer isn't a sport of privilege in the rest of the world. But it is here. Until this changes, DMV will have a harder time producing the same level mod talent. Rich parents don't want their kids to be pro footballers. They want them to go to college. And that is what soccer has become in the DMV, a vehicle for rich parents to manipulate to get their kids into college. THIS in addition to everything above, is why our talent pool isn't as good as it used to be.


Accurate and great summation. Now, regarding #2 which I think is entirely accurate, Target built 10 futsal courts in DC, MD and VA which are not being used like “cages” in London. Any ideas on how to create small sided culture using these courts and SoFive and any other venues?

Any ideas to help get the culture started would be helpful.


For me, anything that requires money to enter is a no go. So SoFive would be a non starter. The courts Target built is a good idea and the question is how to spark playing there regularly. This would start at the neighborhood level in my opinion and I subscribe to if you build it they will come philosophy. Advertise on social media a pick up game three times a week targeted at the neighborhoods where the courts are and see what happens.. the problem is that the soccer establishment is too entrenched in this country a has made the entire system about money. So players may not come out of it isn't some "elite" training or club thing blah blah. No one just plays here like the rest of the world.. if you really want the solution it is US soccer investing millions into building 11v11 and small sided pitches all over the country and incentivizing the kids to play there in some way.. scouts there every day, free coaching etc. investment needs to be made to change a culture that is built in spending money


Thanks! I have a small thing going but the top players are not there yet. I am going to reach out to In10sity, False8 and Futstars. Any other club neutral,
Futsal-friendly, ball mastery programs in the DMV that would support a small-sided pickup initiative?

The last step will bring in DCU. They will be key in making it mainstream. If they decide to come on board, we can create a DMV culture that will not need a heavy investment on their part and could possibly start rivaling NYC, FL, TX and CA. Just a lot of community stakeholders each doing their part to help local players develop a passion for ball mastery and success in tight spaces which is the key to long-term development in 11v11.


Interested. How can we get more info on your small-sided pickup initiative?
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2025 11:45     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And one of the worst first teams in the league. Meaning that it should be easier for an academy prospect to break through if they were developing them. But they aren't developing them. If you're at DCU, you're in a bad spot. That is just the reality. But you have to try and make the best of it. Which is most likely college soccer, without a scholarship. Just is what it is...


If being at DCU is a bad spot for a youth player, then what about the rest of players in the DMV?
Zero chance?


Uh…we have a problem in the DMV in general. For the size of youth scene, we are just severely lacking in top level production. Instead of being defensive about it, let’s fix it and have a reason to cheer for Loudoun and DCU with local kids. We should absolutely be producing more talent.


This is right. It comes down to one main thing (money) with three parts: 1. Pay to pay clubs have diluted quality 2. Private coaches train for money not for development of game specific skills and 3. DCU doesn't take youth development seriously because it has no money to take it seriously.

Re 1: so many clubs out there with inferior coaching and methodologies and a sole focus on winning means we can't get consistent players through these clubs. And the ones that do come through aren't skilled enough to be pros. These clubs are about making money only. Not developing your kid. Need to cut pay to play clubs in half in the DMV and incentivize them (monetarily) to increase their standards in producing pro players, not college players. This should come from USSF and MLS and they should require minimum player quality standards of these clubs.

Re 2: most private trainers are literally useless. Charging crazy hourly rates for very weak training that doesn't prepare kids for live games under pressure. But everyone is working on cones with their head down thinking their games are progressing. Big misconception fueled by the private trainers who know most parents don't know any better. Rich parents eat it up and get milked week after week. Kill the private training culture and focus on and foster a pick up game culture. Would serve the kids much better over the long term. Playing one hour of small sided pick up is a thousand times better than running through cones or around the track. Something a private trainer would never tell you because they want your money.

Re 3: DCU leadership has never believed in its academy and doesn't properly fund it to produce the talent it claims it aspires to produce. No budget means, lesser paid coaches, less opportunities outside of the normal schedule for the kids to learn in different environments, lesser paid front office (directors etc). Running the academy on the cheap is why DCU is so bad and until they fund it and give a damn it won't change. A player makes it through the pay to play system to DCU and finds that DCU isn't any better and in many ways worse than where they came from. DCU needs to be light years ahead of the pay to play system and it just isn't. This comes down to how much the club invests in the academy. Until it makes some substantial investments in the academy DCU will always be substandard and the kids will get substandard coaching and experiences compared to other MLS academies which puts their development path at a disadvantage. Just the way it is.

The last thing that isn't related to money, but kinda is, is the fact that in the DMV, soccer has become dominated by rich, elitist, privileged, well off, manipulative parents that have made it harder for less well off families to break through. This money culture, which is fueled by people with money, is actually killing the game in our area on two main fronts: 1. The more money you have the more access you have to better training. Meaning that less well off families don't have access and many talented kids don't get opportunities and 2. Rich, privileged kids usually don't have the inherent grit required to become professional footballers but they dominate the upper echelon of the game in the DMV, because of number 1.

Soccer isn't a sport of privilege in the rest of the world. But it is here. Until this changes, DMV will have a harder time producing the same level mod talent. Rich parents don't want their kids to be pro footballers. They want them to go to college. And that is what soccer has become in the DMV, a vehicle for rich parents to manipulate to get their kids into college. THIS in addition to everything above, is why our talent pool isn't as good as it used to be.


Accurate and great summation. Now, regarding #2 which I think is entirely accurate, Target built 10 futsal courts in DC, MD and VA which are not being used like “cages” in London. Any ideas on how to create small sided culture using these courts and SoFive and any other venues?

Any ideas to help get the culture started would be helpful.


For me, anything that requires money to enter is a no go. So SoFive would be a non starter. The courts Target built is a good idea and the question is how to spark playing there regularly. This would start at the neighborhood level in my opinion and I subscribe to if you build it they will come philosophy. Advertise on social media a pick up game three times a week targeted at the neighborhoods where the courts are and see what happens.. the problem is that the soccer establishment is too entrenched in this country a has made the entire system about money. So players may not come out of it isn't some "elite" training or club thing blah blah. No one just plays here like the rest of the world.. if you really want the solution it is US soccer investing millions into building 11v11 and small sided pitches all over the country and incentivizing the kids to play there in some way.. scouts there every day, free coaching etc. investment needs to be made to change a culture that is built in spending money


Can you send a list of the Target futsal courts?
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2025 10:28     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Can't manufacture a true soccer culture here.

Just see the mentality of most on this blog which is supposed to be for people who like soccer.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2025 09:55     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And one of the worst first teams in the league. Meaning that it should be easier for an academy prospect to break through if they were developing them. But they aren't developing them. If you're at DCU, you're in a bad spot. That is just the reality. But you have to try and make the best of it. Which is most likely college soccer, without a scholarship. Just is what it is...


If being at DCU is a bad spot for a youth player, then what about the rest of players in the DMV?
Zero chance?


Uh…we have a problem in the DMV in general. For the size of youth scene, we are just severely lacking in top level production. Instead of being defensive about it, let’s fix it and have a reason to cheer for Loudoun and DCU with local kids. We should absolutely be producing more talent.


This is right. It comes down to one main thing (money) with three parts: 1. Pay to pay clubs have diluted quality 2. Private coaches train for money not for development of game specific skills and 3. DCU doesn't take youth development seriously because it has no money to take it seriously.

Re 1: so many clubs out there with inferior coaching and methodologies and a sole focus on winning means we can't get consistent players through these clubs. And the ones that do come through aren't skilled enough to be pros. These clubs are about making money only. Not developing your kid. Need to cut pay to play clubs in half in the DMV and incentivize them (monetarily) to increase their standards in producing pro players, not college players. This should come from USSF and MLS and they should require minimum player quality standards of these clubs.

Re 2: most private trainers are literally useless. Charging crazy hourly rates for very weak training that doesn't prepare kids for live games under pressure. But everyone is working on cones with their head down thinking their games are progressing. Big misconception fueled by the private trainers who know most parents don't know any better. Rich parents eat it up and get milked week after week. Kill the private training culture and focus on and foster a pick up game culture. Would serve the kids much better over the long term. Playing one hour of small sided pick up is a thousand times better than running through cones or around the track. Something a private trainer would never tell you because they want your money.

Re 3: DCU leadership has never believed in its academy and doesn't properly fund it to produce the talent it claims it aspires to produce. No budget means, lesser paid coaches, less opportunities outside of the normal schedule for the kids to learn in different environments, lesser paid front office (directors etc). Running the academy on the cheap is why DCU is so bad and until they fund it and give a damn it won't change. A player makes it through the pay to play system to DCU and finds that DCU isn't any better and in many ways worse than where they came from. DCU needs to be light years ahead of the pay to play system and it just isn't. This comes down to how much the club invests in the academy. Until it makes some substantial investments in the academy DCU will always be substandard and the kids will get substandard coaching and experiences compared to other MLS academies which puts their development path at a disadvantage. Just the way it is.

The last thing that isn't related to money, but kinda is, is the fact that in the DMV, soccer has become dominated by rich, elitist, privileged, well off, manipulative parents that have made it harder for less well off families to break through. This money culture, which is fueled by people with money, is actually killing the game in our area on two main fronts: 1. The more money you have the more access you have to better training. Meaning that less well off families don't have access and many talented kids don't get opportunities and 2. Rich, privileged kids usually don't have the inherent grit required to become professional footballers but they dominate the upper echelon of the game in the DMV, because of number 1.

Soccer isn't a sport of privilege in the rest of the world. But it is here. Until this changes, DMV will have a harder time producing the same level mod talent. Rich parents don't want their kids to be pro footballers. They want them to go to college. And that is what soccer has become in the DMV, a vehicle for rich parents to manipulate to get their kids into college. THIS in addition to everything above, is why our talent pool isn't as good as it used to be.


Accurate and great summation. Now, regarding #2 which I think is entirely accurate, Target built 10 futsal courts in DC, MD and VA which are not being used like “cages” in London. Any ideas on how to create small sided culture using these courts and SoFive and any other venues?

Any ideas to help get the culture started would be helpful.


For me, anything that requires money to enter is a no go. So SoFive would be a non starter. The courts Target built is a good idea and the question is how to spark playing there regularly. This would start at the neighborhood level in my opinion and I subscribe to if you build it they will come philosophy. Advertise on social media a pick up game three times a week targeted at the neighborhoods where the courts are and see what happens.. the problem is that the soccer establishment is too entrenched in this country a has made the entire system about money. So players may not come out of it isn't some "elite" training or club thing blah blah. No one just plays here like the rest of the world.. if you really want the solution it is US soccer investing millions into building 11v11 and small sided pitches all over the country and incentivizing the kids to play there in some way.. scouts there every day, free coaching etc. investment needs to be made to change a culture that is built in spending money


Thanks! I have a small thing going but the top players are not there yet. I am going to reach out to In10sity, False8 and Futstars. Any other club neutral,
Futsal-friendly, ball mastery programs in the DMV that would support a small-sided pickup initiative?

The last step will bring in DCU. They will be key in making it mainstream. If they decide to come on board, we can create a DMV culture that will not need a heavy investment on their part and could possibly start rivaling NYC, FL, TX and CA. Just a lot of community stakeholders each doing their part to help local players develop a passion for ball mastery and success in tight spaces which is the key to long-term development in 11v11.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2025 08:30     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And one of the worst first teams in the league. Meaning that it should be easier for an academy prospect to break through if they were developing them. But they aren't developing them. If you're at DCU, you're in a bad spot. That is just the reality. But you have to try and make the best of it. Which is most likely college soccer, without a scholarship. Just is what it is...


If being at DCU is a bad spot for a youth player, then what about the rest of players in the DMV?
Zero chance?


Uh…we have a problem in the DMV in general. For the size of youth scene, we are just severely lacking in top level production. Instead of being defensive about it, let’s fix it and have a reason to cheer for Loudoun and DCU with local kids. We should absolutely be producing more talent.


This is right. It comes down to one main thing (money) with three parts: 1. Pay to pay clubs have diluted quality 2. Private coaches train for money not for development of game specific skills and 3. DCU doesn't take youth development seriously because it has no money to take it seriously.

Re 1: so many clubs out there with inferior coaching and methodologies and a sole focus on winning means we can't get consistent players through these clubs. And the ones that do come through aren't skilled enough to be pros. These clubs are about making money only. Not developing your kid. Need to cut pay to play clubs in half in the DMV and incentivize them (monetarily) to increase their standards in producing pro players, not college players. This should come from USSF and MLS and they should require minimum player quality standards of these clubs.

Re 2: most private trainers are literally useless. Charging crazy hourly rates for very weak training that doesn't prepare kids for live games under pressure. But everyone is working on cones with their head down thinking their games are progressing. Big misconception fueled by the private trainers who know most parents don't know any better. Rich parents eat it up and get milked week after week. Kill the private training culture and focus on and foster a pick up game culture. Would serve the kids much better over the long term. Playing one hour of small sided pick up is a thousand times better than running through cones or around the track. Something a private trainer would never tell you because they want your money.

Re 3: DCU leadership has never believed in its academy and doesn't properly fund it to produce the talent it claims it aspires to produce. No budget means, lesser paid coaches, less opportunities outside of the normal schedule for the kids to learn in different environments, lesser paid front office (directors etc). Running the academy on the cheap is why DCU is so bad and until they fund it and give a damn it won't change. A player makes it through the pay to play system to DCU and finds that DCU isn't any better and in many ways worse than where they came from. DCU needs to be light years ahead of the pay to play system and it just isn't. This comes down to how much the club invests in the academy. Until it makes some substantial investments in the academy DCU will always be substandard and the kids will get substandard coaching and experiences compared to other MLS academies which puts their development path at a disadvantage. Just the way it is.

The last thing that isn't related to money, but kinda is, is the fact that in the DMV, soccer has become dominated by rich, elitist, privileged, well off, manipulative parents that have made it harder for less well off families to break through. This money culture, which is fueled by people with money, is actually killing the game in our area on two main fronts: 1. The more money you have the more access you have to better training. Meaning that less well off families don't have access and many talented kids don't get opportunities and 2. Rich, privileged kids usually don't have the inherent grit required to become professional footballers but they dominate the upper echelon of the game in the DMV, because of number 1.

Soccer isn't a sport of privilege in the rest of the world. But it is here. Until this changes, DMV will have a harder time producing the same level mod talent. Rich parents don't want their kids to be pro footballers. They want them to go to college. And that is what soccer has become in the DMV, a vehicle for rich parents to manipulate to get their kids into college. THIS in addition to everything above, is why our talent pool isn't as good as it used to be.


Accurate and great summation. Now, regarding #2 which I think is entirely accurate, Target built 10 futsal courts in DC, MD and VA which are not being used like “cages” in London. Any ideas on how to create small sided culture using these courts and SoFive and any other venues?

Any ideas to help get the culture started would be helpful.


For me, anything that requires money to enter is a no go. So SoFive would be a non starter. The courts Target built is a good idea and the question is how to spark playing there regularly. This would start at the neighborhood level in my opinion and I subscribe to if you build it they will come philosophy. Advertise on social media a pick up game three times a week targeted at the neighborhoods where the courts are and see what happens.. the problem is that the soccer establishment is too entrenched in this country a has made the entire system about money. So players may not come out of it isn't some "elite" training or club thing blah blah. No one just plays here like the rest of the world.. if you really want the solution it is US soccer investing millions into building 11v11 and small sided pitches all over the country and incentivizing the kids to play there in some way.. scouts there every day, free coaching etc. investment needs to be made to change a culture that is built in spending money
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2025 07:56     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And one of the worst first teams in the league. Meaning that it should be easier for an academy prospect to break through if they were developing them. But they aren't developing them. If you're at DCU, you're in a bad spot. That is just the reality. But you have to try and make the best of it. Which is most likely college soccer, without a scholarship. Just is what it is...


If being at DCU is a bad spot for a youth player, then what about the rest of players in the DMV?
Zero chance?


Uh…we have a problem in the DMV in general. For the size of youth scene, we are just severely lacking in top level production. Instead of being defensive about it, let’s fix it and have a reason to cheer for Loudoun and DCU with local kids. We should absolutely be producing more talent.


This is right. It comes down to one main thing (money) with three parts: 1. Pay to pay clubs have diluted quality 2. Private coaches train for money not for development of game specific skills and 3. DCU doesn't take youth development seriously because it has no money to take it seriously.

Re 1: so many clubs out there with inferior coaching and methodologies and a sole focus on winning means we can't get consistent players through these clubs. And the ones that do come through aren't skilled enough to be pros. These clubs are about making money only. Not developing your kid. Need to cut pay to play clubs in half in the DMV and incentivize them (monetarily) to increase their standards in producing pro players, not college players. This should come from USSF and MLS and they should require minimum player quality standards of these clubs.

Re 2: most private trainers are literally useless. Charging crazy hourly rates for very weak training that doesn't prepare kids for live games under pressure. But everyone is working on cones with their head down thinking their games are progressing. Big misconception fueled by the private trainers who know most parents don't know any better. Rich parents eat it up and get milked week after week. Kill the private training culture and focus on and foster a pick up game culture. Would serve the kids much better over the long term. Playing one hour of small sided pick up is a thousand times better than running through cones or around the track. Something a private trainer would never tell you because they want your money.

Re 3: DCU leadership has never believed in its academy and doesn't properly fund it to produce the talent it claims it aspires to produce. No budget means, lesser paid coaches, less opportunities outside of the normal schedule for the kids to learn in different environments, lesser paid front office (directors etc). Running the academy on the cheap is why DCU is so bad and until they fund it and give a damn it won't change. A player makes it through the pay to play system to DCU and finds that DCU isn't any better and in many ways worse than where they came from. DCU needs to be light years ahead of the pay to play system and it just isn't. This comes down to how much the club invests in the academy. Until it makes some substantial investments in the academy DCU will always be substandard and the kids will get substandard coaching and experiences compared to other MLS academies which puts their development path at a disadvantage. Just the way it is.

The last thing that isn't related to money, but kinda is, is the fact that in the DMV, soccer has become dominated by rich, elitist, privileged, well off, manipulative parents that have made it harder for less well off families to break through. This money culture, which is fueled by people with money, is actually killing the game in our area on two main fronts: 1. The more money you have the more access you have to better training. Meaning that less well off families don't have access and many talented kids don't get opportunities and 2. Rich, privileged kids usually don't have the inherent grit required to become professional footballers but they dominate the upper echelon of the game in the DMV, because of number 1.

Soccer isn't a sport of privilege in the rest of the world. But it is here. Until this changes, DMV will have a harder time producing the same level mod talent. Rich parents don't want their kids to be pro footballers. They want them to go to college. And that is what soccer has become in the DMV, a vehicle for rich parents to manipulate to get their kids into college. THIS in addition to everything above, is why our talent pool isn't as good as it used to be.


Accurate and great summation. Now, regarding #2 which I think is entirely accurate, Target built 10 futsal courts in DC, MD and VA which are not being used like “cages” in London. Any ideas on how to create small sided culture using these courts and SoFive and any other venues?

Any ideas to help get the culture started would be helpful.
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2025 02:40     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And one of the worst first teams in the league. Meaning that it should be easier for an academy prospect to break through if they were developing them. But they aren't developing them. If you're at DCU, you're in a bad spot. That is just the reality. But you have to try and make the best of it. Which is most likely college soccer, without a scholarship. Just is what it is...


If being at DCU is a bad spot for a youth player, then what about the rest of players in the DMV?
Zero chance?


Uh…we have a problem in the DMV in general. For the size of youth scene, we are just severely lacking in top level production. Instead of being defensive about it, let’s fix it and have a reason to cheer for Loudoun and DCU with local kids. We should absolutely be producing more talent.


This is right. It comes down to one main thing (money) with three parts: 1. Pay to pay clubs have diluted quality 2. Private coaches train for money not for development of game specific skills and 3. DCU doesn't take youth development seriously because it has no money to take it seriously.

Re 1: so many clubs out there with inferior coaching and methodologies and a sole focus on winning means we can't get consistent players through these clubs. And the ones that do come through aren't skilled enough to be pros. These clubs are about making money only. Not developing your kid. Need to cut pay to play clubs in half in the DMV and incentivize them (monetarily) to increase their standards in producing pro players, not college players. This should come from USSF and MLS and they should require minimum player quality standards of these clubs.

Re 2: most private trainers are literally useless. Charging crazy hourly rates for very weak training that doesn't prepare kids for live games under pressure. But everyone is working on cones with their head down thinking their games are progressing. Big misconception fueled by the private trainers who know most parents don't know any better. Rich parents eat it up and get milked week after week. Kill the private training culture and focus on and foster a pick up game culture. Would serve the kids much better over the long term. Playing one hour of small sided pick up is a thousand times better than running through cones or around the track. Something a private trainer would never tell you because they want your money.

Re 3: DCU leadership has never believed in its academy and doesn't properly fund it to produce the talent it claims it aspires to produce. No budget means, lesser paid coaches, less opportunities outside of the normal schedule for the kids to learn in different environments, lesser paid front office (directors etc). Running the academy on the cheap is why DCU is so bad and until they fund it and give a damn it won't change. A player makes it through the pay to play system to DCU and finds that DCU isn't any better and in many ways worse than where they came from. DCU needs to be light years ahead of the pay to play system and it just isn't. This comes down to how much the club invests in the academy. Until it makes some substantial investments in the academy DCU will always be substandard and the kids will get substandard coaching and experiences compared to other MLS academies which puts their development path at a disadvantage. Just the way it is.

The last thing that isn't related to money, but kinda is, is the fact that in the DMV, soccer has become dominated by rich, elitist, privileged, well off, manipulative parents that have made it harder for less well off families to break through. This money culture, which is fueled by people with money, is actually killing the game in our area on two main fronts: 1. The more money you have the more access you have to better training. Meaning that less well off families don't have access and many talented kids don't get opportunities and 2. Rich, privileged kids usually don't have the inherent grit required to become professional footballers but they dominate the upper echelon of the game in the DMV, because of number 1.

Soccer isn't a sport of privilege in the rest of the world. But it is here. Until this changes, DMV will have a harder time producing the same level mod talent. Rich parents don't want their kids to be pro footballers. They want them to go to college. And that is what soccer has become in the DMV, a vehicle for rich parents to manipulate to get their kids into college. THIS in addition to everything above, is why our talent pool isn't as good as it used to be.


Wow. Probably the best summation of the problem(s) in the DMV I have seen. Including the major problem with DCU
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 02:25     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And one of the worst first teams in the league. Meaning that it should be easier for an academy prospect to break through if they were developing them. But they aren't developing them. If you're at DCU, you're in a bad spot. That is just the reality. But you have to try and make the best of it. Which is most likely college soccer, without a scholarship. Just is what it is...


If being at DCU is a bad spot for a youth player, then what about the rest of players in the DMV?
Zero chance?


Uh…we have a problem in the DMV in general. For the size of youth scene, we are just severely lacking in top level production. Instead of being defensive about it, let’s fix it and have a reason to cheer for Loudoun and DCU with local kids. We should absolutely be producing more talent.


This is right. It comes down to one main thing (money) with three parts: 1. Pay to pay clubs have diluted quality 2. Private coaches train for money not for development of game specific skills and 3. DCU doesn't take youth development seriously because it has no money to take it seriously.

Re 1: so many clubs out there with inferior coaching and methodologies and a sole focus on winning means we can't get consistent players through these clubs. And the ones that do come through aren't skilled enough to be pros. These clubs are about making money only. Not developing your kid. Need to cut pay to play clubs in half in the DMV and incentivize them (monetarily) to increase their standards in producing pro players, not college players. This should come from USSF and MLS and they should require minimum player quality standards of these clubs.

Re 2: most private trainers are literally useless. Charging crazy hourly rates for very weak training that doesn't prepare kids for live games under pressure. But everyone is working on cones with their head down thinking their games are progressing. Big misconception fueled by the private trainers who know most parents don't know any better. Rich parents eat it up and get milked week after week. Kill the private training culture and focus on and foster a pick up game culture. Would serve the kids much better over the long term. Playing one hour of small sided pick up is a thousand times better than running through cones or around the track. Something a private trainer would never tell you because they want your money.

Re 3: DCU leadership has never believed in its academy and doesn't properly fund it to produce the talent it claims it aspires to produce. No budget means, lesser paid coaches, less opportunities outside of the normal schedule for the kids to learn in different environments, lesser paid front office (directors etc). Running the academy on the cheap is why DCU is so bad and until they fund it and give a damn it won't change. A player makes it through the pay to play system to DCU and finds that DCU isn't any better and in many ways worse than where they came from. DCU needs to be light years ahead of the pay to play system and it just isn't. This comes down to how much the club invests in the academy. Until it makes some substantial investments in the academy DCU will always be substandard and the kids will get substandard coaching and experiences compared to other MLS academies which puts their development path at a disadvantage. Just the way it is.

The last thing that isn't related to money, but kinda is, is the fact that in the DMV, soccer has become dominated by rich, elitist, privileged, well off, manipulative parents that have made it harder for less well off families to break through. This money culture, which is fueled by people with money, is actually killing the game in our area on two main fronts: 1. The more money you have the more access you have to better training. Meaning that less well off families don't have access and many talented kids don't get opportunities and 2. Rich, privileged kids usually don't have the inherent grit required to become professional footballers but they dominate the upper echelon of the game in the DMV, because of number 1.

Soccer isn't a sport of privilege in the rest of the world. But it is here. Until this changes, DMV will have a harder time producing the same level mod talent. Rich parents don't want their kids to be pro footballers. They want them to go to college. And that is what soccer has become in the DMV, a vehicle for rich parents to manipulate to get their kids into college. THIS in addition to everything above, is why our talent pool isn't as good as it used to be.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 01:35     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dude with kid in EDP killing himself about what's happening at professional academy lol


Dude with a kid at DCU thinking they doing something but realizing it ain't sh#t. Real talk.


I don't see parents of DCU kids on here hyping them up or bragging or acting like their lives depends on it

But I do see Losers and Insecure adults on here trying to tear the DCU kids down

You should drop the keyboard warrior act and go verbally attack the fathers to their faces like you do here.


You're that parent you speak of. Obviously.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2025 01:33     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dude with kid in EDP killing himself about what's happening at professional academy lol


Dude with a kid at DCU thinking they doing something but realizing it ain't sh#t. Real talk.


I don't see parents of DCU kids on here hyping them up or bragging or acting like their lives depends on it

But I do see Losers and Insecure adults on here trying to tear the DCU kids down

You should drop the keyboard warrior act and go verbally attack the fathers to their faces like you do here.


🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You're not tough. Clearly. Stop the tough talk. The only one verbally attacking anyone is you because you're hurt people are saying negative things about the position you're in. No one is trying to tear down the kids. Just shedding light on an academy that has proven it doesn't care about them. DCU. I would tell anyone to their face that DCU is a not worth a damn and it's not a good place for their son, and have done so many MANY times. like has been done here. People still choose DCU and that's fune. To each his own. The results will speak for themselves. Until you can show how DCU is good or how anyone saying negative things about DCU is wrong, I guess you got nothing. But we knew this already. Why your main strategy is to deflect and change subjects. Bravo 👏
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2025 19:09     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dude with kid in EDP killing himself about what's happening at professional academy lol


Dude with a kid at DCU thinking they doing something but realizing it ain't sh#t. Real talk.


I don't see parents of DCU kids on here hyping them up or bragging or acting like their lives depends on it

But I do see Losers and Insecure adults on here trying to tear the DCU kids down

You should drop the keyboard warrior act and go verbally attack the fathers to their faces like you do here.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2025 18:04     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And one of the worst first teams in the league. Meaning that it should be easier for an academy prospect to break through if they were developing them. But they aren't developing them. If you're at DCU, you're in a bad spot. That is just the reality. But you have to try and make the best of it. Which is most likely college soccer, without a scholarship. Just is what it is...


If being at DCU is a bad spot for a youth player, then what about the rest of players in the DMV?
Zero chance?


Uh…we have a problem in the DMV in general. For the size of youth scene, we are just severely lacking in top level production. Instead of being defensive about it, let’s fix it and have a reason to cheer for Loudoun and DCU with local kids. We should absolutely be producing more talent.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2025 16:28     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:Dude with kid in EDP killing himself about what's happening at professional academy lol


Dude with a kid at DCU thinking they doing something but realizing it ain't sh#t. Real talk.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2025 16:27     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:Dude with kid in EDP killing himself about what's happening at professional academy lol


You wish that were true ..