Anonymous
02/27/2022 15:46
Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What would an acceptable, face-saving exit even look like for Putin?
Unfortunately there isn’t one. Means that a whole country has no future now. I know it can’t be compared to what Ukraine is going through but I also feel sad for the kids of Russia who have been deprived of their future.
I don't believe this. I think this eventually ends with Putin forced out of power and a large part of Ukraine recognized as a sovereign nation with immediate acceptance into NATO and the EU - with a very, very heavy emphasis on eventually. I think we are in for a long haul, but with the West openly supporting an insurgency and maintaining sanctions it will happen eventually.
I do not believe the Russian military will facilitate the launch of nuclear weapons.
I think you are right. The sanctions should give the Russian population a reason to boot Putin. We’re going to make it so miserable there that they will have nothing to eat but beets and cucumbers. The next sanction will be to cancel visas and send Russians home. Putin will be (cough) done. The oligarchs are about to lose their yachts and condos this week.
The idea that Putin is ginning up a pretextural atomic bombing is scary. We see through it. Ukraine doesn’t have nuclear weapons and this is why we are trying to stay out of the fight.
It doesn’t work that way. Putin controls what the Russians hear. Russia’s only remaining non state news outlet is now available only on YouTube and it will be closed soon.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 15:37
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some unconfirmed chatter on Twitter about Putin firing Valery Gerasimov, Russia’s Chief of the General Staff.
Is that a good thing in favor of calmer / sane next moves or a sign that Putin is spinning up and eliminating anyone who doesn’t agree with him?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Your guess is as good as mine!
Anonymous
02/27/2022 15:33
Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What would an acceptable, face-saving exit even look like for Putin?
Unfortunately there isn’t one. Means that a whole country has no future now. I know it can’t be compared to what Ukraine is going through but I also feel sad for the kids of Russia who have been deprived of their future.
I don't believe this. I think this eventually ends with Putin forced out of power and a large part of Ukraine recognized as a sovereign nation with immediate acceptance into NATO and the EU - with a very, very heavy emphasis on eventually. I think we are in for a long haul, but with the West openly supporting an insurgency and maintaining sanctions it will happen eventually.
I do not believe the Russian military will facilitate the launch of nuclear weapons.
I think you are right. The sanctions should give the Russian population a reason to boot Putin. We’re going to make it so miserable there that they will have nothing to eat but beets and cucumbers. The next sanction will be to cancel visas and send Russians home. Putin will be (cough) done. The oligarchs are about to lose their yachts and condos this week.
The idea that Putin is ginning up a pretextural atomic bombing is scary. We see through it. Ukraine doesn’t have nuclear weapons and this is why we are trying to stay out of the fight.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 15:30
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/ng_ukraine/status/1497924614865002497?s=21
Azov fighters welcoming Chechen merc by dipping their bullets in lard first.
Based.
Why?
Probably religion, you know "consumption of pork." Although, I suspect Islam probably has exceptions for "ingestion" via ammunition.
That’s because the Chechens, after such a long fight against the Russians, are now fighting with the Russians. It’s all very well for we armchair warriors to castigate Ukraine for having the Azov fighters but Ukraine is in no position to be choosy. Ukraine has banned males 13 to 60 from leaving the country. Ukraine has asked for volunteers, trained or not, to come to Ukraine. Ukraine is outmanned. Ukraine’s Jewish President, who beat a popular President in a landslide, doesn’t have the luxury of sidelining trained soldiers.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 15:27
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Some unconfirmed chatter on Twitter about Putin firing Valery Gerasimov, Russia’s Chief of the General Staff.
Is that a good thing in favor of calmer / sane next moves or a sign that Putin is spinning up and eliminating anyone who doesn’t agree with him?
Anonymous
02/27/2022 15:27
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/ng_ukraine/status/1497924614865002497?s=21
Azov fighters welcoming Chechen merc by dipping their bullets in lard first.
Based.
Why?
The Chechens are Muslim.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 15:26
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
The botoxed little mongrel is cornered in a pile of sh!t of his own doing . His announcement about activating nuclear forces is meant to make the west blink—the white should take him up on his threat. His Napoléon complex had him thinking he could waltz into ukraine like its his living room. It ain't happening little man.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 15:25
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Some unconfirmed chatter on Twitter about Putin firing Valery Gerasimov, Russia’s Chief of the General Staff.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 15:21
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/ng_ukraine/status/1497924614865002497?s=21
Azov fighters welcoming Chechen merc by dipping their bullets in lard first.
Based.
Why?
Probably religion, you know "consumption of pork." Although, I suspect Islam probably has exceptions for "ingestion" via ammunition.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 15:15
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Is Putin’s high alert a pretext for bombing other countries with nuclear weapons? This is the same schtick he used with Ukraine - that Ukraine was a threat and needed to be attacked to spare Russian lives. He’s essentially saying the same thing around the high alert. If the Russian military buys in, we are toast.
This is terrifying.
Obviously the Russian military will buy in. But Putin won’t launch nuclear missiles.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 15:10
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Is Putin’s high alert a pretext for bombing other countries with nuclear weapons? This is the same schtick he used with Ukraine - that Ukraine was a threat and needed to be attacked to spare Russian lives. He’s essentially saying the same thing around the high alert. If the Russian military buys in, we are toast.
This is terrifying.
This is terrifying.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 14:43
Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. Is the new statement about nuclear arms different from the one this morning?
I thought they were already on high alert in Russia, but press is acting as if this is new?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/27/putin-nuclear-warning-requires-west-to-tread-extremely-carefully
Different article:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna17853
Anonymous
02/27/2022 14:42
Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t any of the 2A “Freedom Fighters” heading over to the Ukraine to help defend democracy?
They only want to fight the US government…you know to stop the authoritarian democrats mask and vaccine mandates(also install an unelected Trump as dictator). Invading and overthrowing a democracy is something they are all for…just ask them.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 14:41
Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine
I’m confused. Is the new statement about nuclear arms different from the one this morning?
I thought they were already on high alert in Russia, but press is acting as if this is new?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/27/putin-nuclear-warning-requires-west-to-tread-extremely-carefully
I thought they were already on high alert in Russia, but press is acting as if this is new?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/27/putin-nuclear-warning-requires-west-to-tread-extremely-carefully
Anonymous