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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a huge problem, and growing. Mostly school avoidance and mental health issues. No one is sure exactly what the cause is. I think the rolling gradebook and the required 7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter might have something to do with it - work just piles up and up and quickly becomes overwhelming.

7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter is not a lot of work. It's very little work.

The attendance is bad because of the crappy schedule and residual effects of how FCPS implemented covid computer learning and post covid computer learning and grading scales.

Ask any parent of teens

Fcps made consistent in person school and deadlines irrelevant for the current crop of kids. It will be like this for a few more years.

I am a parent of a teen. I am also a teacher. 7 assignments is much more graded work than we ever had when I was in school. We usually had one or two tests per quarter, and max one other thing to hand in. Maybe some small homework assignments that were stuck together into one grade. 7 graded assignments is actually a lot. As teachers, we sometimes have trouble getting them all in. When a student misses some school, they are almost certainly going to get far behind in assignments, and just getting them caught up becomes a major thing. There is no way a kid who missed a week or two of school can easily catch up in all their classes. So they start avoiding work and avoiding school, and the problem spirals. We watch it happen over and over.

We don't even want to give that many separate assignments.

7 assignments? My kids have anywhere from 20-30 graded assignments in private MS & HS per quarter, and usually a whole lot of quizzes and a few tests.

That seems unlikely. 30 grade assignments per class per quarter would mean a graded assignment almost every day, or at the very least every other day. For the teacher, that would mean grading nonstop, and even in private school there aren't enough hours in the day to grade that much work and also plan lessons and teach.

DP. Mine are in public in the Northeast and usually have more than 20 assignments per quarter. Quarters last 45ish days.

My ruby red states nieces have much more rigorous education than FCPS.

That's because the parents in red states know better and demand better for their kids.

As a parent of a kid taking APs in Freshman year and has 3 next year, I’m honestly confused by your view. My child has vastly more APs and elective selection than I did as a kid or my friend’s kids do who still live in my home county. They also have lots of quizzes, papers and graded assignments.

Parents of kids who don’t do schoolwork are convinced there’s no schoolwork . They also believe none of the teachers teach!

As a teacher it amazes me why these parents believe all these lies the kids tell them. You really think we are doing nothing, even one day? The honors and AP classes are really just made up of the kids actually doing the assignments and the regular classes are 50% of kids that don’t want to do anything and the other 50% do the work but want to have breaks while we help the kids who weren’t paying attention the first time or were absent.

They really do! I have called parents to say their kid skipped class and they said “oh my child said you weren’t doing anything today.” Pardon? We did a bellringer, independent reading + response, a quick write with our vocabulary, a mini lesson and a partner speaking activity with our new skill. Your kid missed all that “nothing” and will now be utterly clueless when I give them a graph or chart with a technical text to analyze, interpret, and write about.

Parent here. If I were you, I wouldn’t take the extra time to teach that student what they missed. If they told their parent that you weren’t doing anything today, you can tell the parent that you actually did a lot and then have the kid face the natural consequence of his decision to skip class.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a huge problem, and growing. Mostly school avoidance and mental health issues. No one is sure exactly what the cause is. I think the rolling gradebook and the required 7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter might have something to do with it - work just piles up and up and quickly becomes overwhelming.

7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter is not a lot of work. It's very little work.

The attendance is bad because of the crappy schedule and residual effects of how FCPS implemented covid computer learning and post covid computer learning and grading scales.

Ask any parent of teens

Fcps made consistent in person school and deadlines irrelevant for the current crop of kids. It will be like this for a few more years.

I am a parent of a teen. I am also a teacher. 7 assignments is much more graded work than we ever had when I was in school. We usually had one or two tests per quarter, and max one other thing to hand in. Maybe some small homework assignments that were stuck together into one grade. 7 graded assignments is actually a lot. As teachers, we sometimes have trouble getting them all in. When a student misses some school, they are almost certainly going to get far behind in assignments, and just getting them caught up becomes a major thing. There is no way a kid who missed a week or two of school can easily catch up in all their classes. So they start avoiding work and avoiding school, and the problem spirals. We watch it happen over and over.

We don't even want to give that many separate assignments.

7 assignments? My kids have anywhere from 20-30 graded assignments in private MS & HS per quarter, and usually a whole lot of quizzes and a few tests.

That seems unlikely. 30 grade assignments per class per quarter would mean a graded assignment almost every day, or at the very least every other day. For the teacher, that would mean grading nonstop, and even in private school there aren't enough hours in the day to grade that much work and also plan lessons and teach.

DP. Mine are in public in the Northeast and usually have more than 20 assignments per quarter. Quarters last 45ish days.

My ruby red states nieces have much more rigorous education than FCPS.

That's because the parents in red states know better and demand better for their kids.

As a parent of a kid taking APs in Freshman year and has 3 next year, I’m honestly confused by your view. My child has vastly more APs and elective selection than I did as a kid or my friend’s kids do who still live in my home county. They also have lots of quizzes, papers and graded assignments.

Parents of kids who don’t do schoolwork are convinced there’s no schoolwork . They also believe none of the teachers teach!

As a teacher it amazes me why these parents believe all these lies the kids tell them. You really think we are doing nothing, even one day? The honors and AP classes are really just made up of the kids actually doing the assignments and the regular classes are 50% of kids that don’t want to do anything and the other 50% do the work but want to have breaks while we help the kids who weren’t paying attention the first time or were absent.

They really do! I have called parents to say their kid skipped class and they said “oh my child said you weren’t doing anything today.” Pardon? We did a bellringer, independent reading + response, a quick write with our vocabulary, a mini lesson and a partner speaking activity with our new skill. Your kid missed all that “nothing” and will now be utterly clueless when I give them a graph or chart with a technical text to analyze, interpret, and write about.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a huge problem, and growing. Mostly school avoidance and mental health issues. No one is sure exactly what the cause is. I think the rolling gradebook and the required 7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter might have something to do with it - work just piles up and up and quickly becomes overwhelming.

7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter is not a lot of work. It's very little work.

The attendance is bad because of the crappy schedule and residual effects of how FCPS implemented covid computer learning and post covid computer learning and grading scales.

Ask any parent of teens

Fcps made consistent in person school and deadlines irrelevant for the current crop of kids. It will be like this for a few more years.

I am a parent of a teen. I am also a teacher. 7 assignments is much more graded work than we ever had when I was in school. We usually had one or two tests per quarter, and max one other thing to hand in. Maybe some small homework assignments that were stuck together into one grade. 7 graded assignments is actually a lot. As teachers, we sometimes have trouble getting them all in. When a student misses some school, they are almost certainly going to get far behind in assignments, and just getting them caught up becomes a major thing. There is no way a kid who missed a week or two of school can easily catch up in all their classes. So they start avoiding work and avoiding school, and the problem spirals. We watch it happen over and over.

We don't even want to give that many separate assignments.

7 assignments? My kids have anywhere from 20-30 graded assignments in private MS & HS per quarter, and usually a whole lot of quizzes and a few tests.

That seems unlikely. 30 grade assignments per class per quarter would mean a graded assignment almost every day, or at the very least every other day. For the teacher, that would mean grading nonstop, and even in private school there aren't enough hours in the day to grade that much work and also plan lessons and teach.

DP. Mine are in public in the Northeast and usually have more than 20 assignments per quarter. Quarters last 45ish days.

My ruby red states nieces have much more rigorous education than FCPS.

That's because the parents in red states know better and demand better for their kids.

As a parent of a kid taking APs in Freshman year and has 3 next year, I’m honestly confused by your view. My child has vastly more APs and elective selection than I did as a kid or my friend’s kids do who still live in my home county. They also have lots of quizzes, papers and graded assignments.

Parents of kids who don’t do schoolwork are convinced there’s no schoolwork . They also believe none of the teachers teach!

As a teacher it amazes me why these parents believe all these lies the kids tell them. You really think we are doing nothing, even one day? The honors and AP classes are really just made up of the kids actually doing the assignments and the regular classes are 50% of kids that don’t want to do anything and the other 50% do the work but want to have breaks while we help the kids who weren’t paying attention the first time or were absent.

To be fair, it’s really always been this way but the difference between them is only increasing. And parents may not be completely at fault but they certainly are not helping with keeping their kids out of school. Especially middle school and early high school, it’s only going to get worse every year if you start this

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a huge problem, and growing. Mostly school avoidance and mental health issues. No one is sure exactly what the cause is. I think the rolling gradebook and the required 7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter might have something to do with it - work just piles up and up and quickly becomes overwhelming.

7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter is not a lot of work. It's very little work.

The attendance is bad because of the crappy schedule and residual effects of how FCPS implemented covid computer learning and post covid computer learning and grading scales.

Ask any parent of teens

Fcps made consistent in person school and deadlines irrelevant for the current crop of kids. It will be like this for a few more years.

I am a parent of a teen. I am also a teacher. 7 assignments is much more graded work than we ever had when I was in school. We usually had one or two tests per quarter, and max one other thing to hand in. Maybe some small homework assignments that were stuck together into one grade. 7 graded assignments is actually a lot. As teachers, we sometimes have trouble getting them all in. When a student misses some school, they are almost certainly going to get far behind in assignments, and just getting them caught up becomes a major thing. There is no way a kid who missed a week or two of school can easily catch up in all their classes. So they start avoiding work and avoiding school, and the problem spirals. We watch it happen over and over.

We don't even want to give that many separate assignments.

7 assignments? My kids have anywhere from 20-30 graded assignments in private MS & HS per quarter, and usually a whole lot of quizzes and a few tests.

That seems unlikely. 30 grade assignments per class per quarter would mean a graded assignment almost every day, or at the very least every other day. For the teacher, that would mean grading nonstop, and even in private school there aren't enough hours in the day to grade that much work and also plan lessons and teach.

DP. Mine are in public in the Northeast and usually have more than 20 assignments per quarter. Quarters last 45ish days.

My ruby red states nieces have much more rigorous education than FCPS.

That's because the parents in red states know better and demand better for their kids.

As a parent of a kid taking APs in Freshman year and has 3 next year, I’m honestly confused by your view. My child has vastly more APs and elective selection than I did as a kid or my friend’s kids do who still live in my home county. They also have lots of quizzes, papers and graded assignments.

Parents of kids who don’t do schoolwork are convinced there’s no schoolwork . They also believe none of the teachers teach!

As a teacher it amazes me why these parents believe all these lies the kids tell them. You really think we are doing nothing, even one day? The honors and AP classes are really just made up of the kids actually doing the assignments and the regular classes are 50% of kids that don’t want to do anything and the other 50% do the work but want to have breaks while we help the kids who weren’t paying attention the first time or were absent.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a huge problem, and growing. Mostly school avoidance and mental health issues. No one is sure exactly what the cause is. I think the rolling gradebook and the required 7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter might have something to do with it - work just piles up and up and quickly becomes overwhelming.

7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter is not a lot of work. It's very little work.

The attendance is bad because of the crappy schedule and residual effects of how FCPS implemented covid computer learning and post covid computer learning and grading scales.

Ask any parent of teens

Fcps made consistent in person school and deadlines irrelevant for the current crop of kids. It will be like this for a few more years.

I am a parent of a teen. I am also a teacher. 7 assignments is much more graded work than we ever had when I was in school. We usually had one or two tests per quarter, and max one other thing to hand in. Maybe some small homework assignments that were stuck together into one grade. 7 graded assignments is actually a lot. As teachers, we sometimes have trouble getting them all in. When a student misses some school, they are almost certainly going to get far behind in assignments, and just getting them caught up becomes a major thing. There is no way a kid who missed a week or two of school can easily catch up in all their classes. So they start avoiding work and avoiding school, and the problem spirals. We watch it happen over and over.

We don't even want to give that many separate assignments.

As a math teacher I want to have 20+ assignments a quarter. Mostly low stakes short assignments every day with almost no effect to grade (40 assignments were worth only 10%) to make sure students know what skill they are missing to prepare for the quiz or test in the future. However, I am not allowed to do this anymore and if I make these same assignments ungraded the kids don’t do them or cheat even when it’s for them to know what skills that are missing.

Yes the big problem is the county is pushing the idea that the everyone needs to get the same education in every class. Which creates a cookie cutter classroom that leaks any creativity. Teachers basically have to break rules to do something creative or really do something to help their students. It’s sad, middle school is the worst, they basically just work out of workbooks even though most good teachers hate them. All about lowering the bar and helping the worst

Oh what planet? My child is in middle school in FCPS and we have never ever seen a workbook.

+1 Workbook? I've never seen a workbook in middle school.

Trust me! Ask your kids it may not be a traditional workbook but everything is already planned for the teacher. Each activity is planned out and some schools are forced to use them. They are some of the worse lessons you have ever seen

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a huge problem, and growing. Mostly school avoidance and mental health issues. No one is sure exactly what the cause is. I think the rolling gradebook and the required 7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter might have something to do with it - work just piles up and up and quickly becomes overwhelming.

7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter is not a lot of work. It's very little work.

The attendance is bad because of the crappy schedule and residual effects of how FCPS implemented covid computer learning and post covid computer learning and grading scales.

Ask any parent of teens

Fcps made consistent in person school and deadlines irrelevant for the current crop of kids. It will be like this for a few more years.

I am a parent of a teen. I am also a teacher. 7 assignments is much more graded work than we ever had when I was in school. We usually had one or two tests per quarter, and max one other thing to hand in. Maybe some small homework assignments that were stuck together into one grade. 7 graded assignments is actually a lot. As teachers, we sometimes have trouble getting them all in. When a student misses some school, they are almost certainly going to get far behind in assignments, and just getting them caught up becomes a major thing. There is no way a kid who missed a week or two of school can easily catch up in all their classes. So they start avoiding work and avoiding school, and the problem spirals. We watch it happen over and over.

We don't even want to give that many separate assignments.

7 assignments? My kids have anywhere from 20-30 graded assignments in private MS & HS per quarter, and usually a whole lot of quizzes and a few tests.

That seems unlikely. 30 grade assignments per class per quarter would mean a graded assignment almost every day, or at the very least every other day. For the teacher, that would mean grading nonstop, and even in private school there aren't enough hours in the day to grade that much work and also plan lessons and teach.

DP. Mine are in public in the Northeast and usually have more than 20 assignments per quarter. Quarters last 45ish days.

My ruby red states nieces have much more rigorous education than FCPS.

That's because the parents in red states know better and demand better for their kids.

As a parent of a kid taking APs in Freshman year and has 3 next year, I’m honestly confused by your view. My child has vastly more APs and elective selection than I did as a kid or my friend’s kids do who still live in my home county. They also have lots of quizzes, papers and graded assignments.

Parents of kids who don’t do schoolwork are convinced there’s no schoolwork . They also believe none of the teachers teach!

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a huge problem, and growing. Mostly school avoidance and mental health issues. No one is sure exactly what the cause is. I think the rolling gradebook and the required 7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter might have something to do with it - work just piles up and up and quickly becomes overwhelming.

7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter is not a lot of work. It's very little work.

The attendance is bad because of the crappy schedule and residual effects of how FCPS implemented covid computer learning and post covid computer learning and grading scales.

Ask any parent of teens

Fcps made consistent in person school and deadlines irrelevant for the current crop of kids. It will be like this for a few more years.

I’m a parent of two teens. You don’t speak for me. My children attend school consistently and they take their work seriously.

The home sets the tone.

False. Our home consists of one college professor and one public school teacher, and I assure you we have always taken school seriously. And yet we have one child who will not go anymore. We have friends with the same problem. Have fun patting yourself on the back for what is basically luck. Hope your children never have any mental health problems that your "tone" can't solve.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a huge problem, and growing. Mostly school avoidance and mental health issues. No one is sure exactly what the cause is. I think the rolling gradebook and the required 7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter might have something to do with it - work just piles up and up and quickly becomes overwhelming.

7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter is not a lot of work. It's very little work.

The attendance is bad because of the crappy schedule and residual effects of how FCPS implemented covid computer learning and post covid computer learning and grading scales.

Ask any parent of teens

Fcps made consistent in person school and deadlines irrelevant for the current crop of kids. It will be like this for a few more years.

I am a parent of a teen. I am also a teacher. 7 assignments is much more graded work than we ever had when I was in school. We usually had one or two tests per quarter, and max one other thing to hand in. Maybe some small homework assignments that were stuck together into one grade. 7 graded assignments is actually a lot. As teachers, we sometimes have trouble getting them all in. When a student misses some school, they are almost certainly going to get far behind in assignments, and just getting them caught up becomes a major thing. There is no way a kid who missed a week or two of school can easily catch up in all their classes. So they start avoiding work and avoiding school, and the problem spirals. We watch it happen over and over.

We don't even want to give that many separate assignments.

7 assignments? My kids have anywhere from 20-30 graded assignments in private MS & HS per quarter, and usually a whole lot of quizzes and a few tests.

That seems unlikely. 30 grade assignments per class per quarter would mean a graded assignment almost every day, or at the very least every other day. For the teacher, that would mean grading nonstop, and even in private school there aren't enough hours in the day to grade that much work and also plan lessons and teach.

DP. Mine are in public in the Northeast and usually have more than 20 assignments per quarter. Quarters last 45ish days.

My ruby red states nieces have much more rigorous education than FCPS.

That's because the parents in red states know better and demand better for their kids.

Interesting, given the educational system and test scores of red states is consistently ranked at the bottom of the country, while blue states occupy the top spots.

But I guess your statement itself is proof of the quality of the education you received.

Yeah, but the very worst education outcomes are blue cities

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a huge problem, and growing. Mostly school avoidance and mental health issues. No one is sure exactly what the cause is. I think the rolling gradebook and the required 7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter might have something to do with it - work just piles up and up and quickly becomes overwhelming.

7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter is not a lot of work. It's very little work.

The attendance is bad because of the crappy schedule and residual effects of how FCPS implemented covid computer learning and post covid computer learning and grading scales.

Ask any parent of teens

Fcps made consistent in person school and deadlines irrelevant for the current crop of kids. It will be like this for a few more years.

I am a parent of a teen. I am also a teacher. 7 assignments is much more graded work than we ever had when I was in school. We usually had one or two tests per quarter, and max one other thing to hand in. Maybe some small homework assignments that were stuck together into one grade. 7 graded assignments is actually a lot. As teachers, we sometimes have trouble getting them all in. When a student misses some school, they are almost certainly going to get far behind in assignments, and just getting them caught up becomes a major thing. There is no way a kid who missed a week or two of school can easily catch up in all their classes. So they start avoiding work and avoiding school, and the problem spirals. We watch it happen over and over.

We don't even want to give that many separate assignments.

I am likely older than you, but when I was in school we had frequent tests and homework. I also recall a very lengthy "term paper," with footnotes, etc. History tests, were usually short answer, multiple choice, and a couple of essay questions. Our chemistry teacher made us memorize the periodic chart in order to do equations quickly. French had vocabulary and grammar quizzes every Friday. In English, we read assigned novels with essay questions on tests. I recall Red Badge of Courage and Moby Dick my junior year, but I think there was also a lot of poetry. Senior year English was Shakespeare and Canterbury Tales, as I recall Again, lots of writing involved along with discussion in class.
I do know we had frequent tests and quite a bit of homework in all classes. This was in a public school in a very red state.

I doubt you can actually remember the frequency of homework. But we don't do weekly quizzes anymore. We can't. Since we have to allow all those makeups, we'd spend forever just giving quizzes.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a huge problem, and growing. Mostly school avoidance and mental health issues. No one is sure exactly what the cause is. I think the rolling gradebook and the required 7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter might have something to do with it - work just piles up and up and quickly becomes overwhelming.

7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter is not a lot of work. It's very little work.

The attendance is bad because of the crappy schedule and residual effects of how FCPS implemented covid computer learning and post covid computer learning and grading scales.

Ask any parent of teens

Fcps made consistent in person school and deadlines irrelevant for the current crop of kids. It will be like this for a few more years.

I am a parent of a teen. I am also a teacher. 7 assignments is much more graded work than we ever had when I was in school. We usually had one or two tests per quarter, and max one other thing to hand in. Maybe some small homework assignments that were stuck together into one grade. 7 graded assignments is actually a lot. As teachers, we sometimes have trouble getting them all in. When a student misses some school, they are almost certainly going to get far behind in assignments, and just getting them caught up becomes a major thing. There is no way a kid who missed a week or two of school can easily catch up in all their classes. So they start avoiding work and avoiding school, and the problem spirals. We watch it happen over and over.

We don't even want to give that many separate assignments.

7 assignments? My kids have anywhere from 20-30 graded assignments in private MS & HS per quarter, and usually a whole lot of quizzes and a few tests.

That seems unlikely. 30 grade assignments per class per quarter would mean a graded assignment almost every day, or at the very least every other day. For the teacher, that would mean grading nonstop, and even in private school there aren't enough hours in the day to grade that much work and also plan lessons and teach.

DP. Mine are in public in the Northeast and usually have more than 20 assignments per quarter. Quarters last 45ish days.

My ruby red states nieces have much more rigorous education than FCPS.

That's because the parents in red states know better and demand better for their kids.

Interesting, given the educational system and test scores of red states is consistently ranked at the bottom of the country, while blue states occupy the top spots.

But I guess your statement itself is proof of the quality of the education you received.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a huge problem, and growing. Mostly school avoidance and mental health issues. No one is sure exactly what the cause is. I think the rolling gradebook and the required 7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter might have something to do with it - work just piles up and up and quickly becomes overwhelming.

7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter is not a lot of work. It's very little work.

The attendance is bad because of the crappy schedule and residual effects of how FCPS implemented covid computer learning and post covid computer learning and grading scales.

Ask any parent of teens

Fcps made consistent in person school and deadlines irrelevant for the current crop of kids. It will be like this for a few more years.

I am a parent of a teen. I am also a teacher. 7 assignments is much more graded work than we ever had when I was in school. We usually had one or two tests per quarter, and max one other thing to hand in. Maybe some small homework assignments that were stuck together into one grade. 7 graded assignments is actually a lot. As teachers, we sometimes have trouble getting them all in. When a student misses some school, they are almost certainly going to get far behind in assignments, and just getting them caught up becomes a major thing. There is no way a kid who missed a week or two of school can easily catch up in all their classes. So they start avoiding work and avoiding school, and the problem spirals. We watch it happen over and over.

We don't even want to give that many separate assignments.

As a math teacher I want to have 20+ assignments a quarter. Mostly low stakes short assignments every day with almost no effect to grade (40 assignments were worth only 10%) to make sure students know what skill they are missing to prepare for the quiz or test in the future. However, I am not allowed to do this anymore and if I make these same assignments ungraded the kids don’t do them or cheat even when it’s for them to know what skills that are missing.

Yes the big problem is the county is pushing the idea that the everyone needs to get the same education in every class. Which creates a cookie cutter classroom that leaks any creativity. Teachers basically have to break rules to do something creative or really do something to help their students. It’s sad, middle school is the worst, they basically just work out of workbooks even though most good teachers hate them. All about lowering the bar and helping the worst

Oh what planet? My child is in middle school in FCPS and we have never ever seen a workbook.

+1 Workbook? I've never seen a workbook in middle school.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a huge problem, and growing. Mostly school avoidance and mental health issues. No one is sure exactly what the cause is. I think the rolling gradebook and the required 7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter might have something to do with it - work just piles up and up and quickly becomes overwhelming.

7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter is not a lot of work. It's very little work.

The attendance is bad because of the crappy schedule and residual effects of how FCPS implemented covid computer learning and post covid computer learning and grading scales.

Ask any parent of teens

Fcps made consistent in person school and deadlines irrelevant for the current crop of kids. It will be like this for a few more years.

I am a parent of a teen. I am also a teacher. 7 assignments is much more graded work than we ever had when I was in school. We usually had one or two tests per quarter, and max one other thing to hand in. Maybe some small homework assignments that were stuck together into one grade. 7 graded assignments is actually a lot. As teachers, we sometimes have trouble getting them all in. When a student misses some school, they are almost certainly going to get far behind in assignments, and just getting them caught up becomes a major thing. There is no way a kid who missed a week or two of school can easily catch up in all their classes. So they start avoiding work and avoiding school, and the problem spirals. We watch it happen over and over.

We don't even want to give that many separate assignments.

7 assignments? My kids have anywhere from 20-30 graded assignments in private MS & HS per quarter, and usually a whole lot of quizzes and a few tests.

That seems unlikely. 30 grade assignments per class per quarter would mean a graded assignment almost every day, or at the very least every other day. For the teacher, that would mean grading nonstop, and even in private school there aren't enough hours in the day to grade that much work and also plan lessons and teach.

DP. Mine are in public in the Northeast and usually have more than 20 assignments per quarter. Quarters last 45ish days.

My ruby red states nieces have much more rigorous education than FCPS.

That's because the parents in red states know better and demand better for their kids.

As a parent of a kid taking APs in Freshman year and has 3 next year, I’m honestly confused by your view. My child has vastly more APs and elective selection than I did as a kid or my friend’s kids do who still live in my home county. They also have lots of quizzes, papers and graded assignments.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a huge problem, and growing. Mostly school avoidance and mental health issues. No one is sure exactly what the cause is. I think the rolling gradebook and the required 7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter might have something to do with it - work just piles up and up and quickly becomes overwhelming.

7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter is not a lot of work. It's very little work.

The attendance is bad because of the crappy schedule and residual effects of how FCPS implemented covid computer learning and post covid computer learning and grading scales.

Ask any parent of teens

Fcps made consistent in person school and deadlines irrelevant for the current crop of kids. It will be like this for a few more years.

I am a parent of a teen. I am also a teacher. 7 assignments is much more graded work than we ever had when I was in school. We usually had one or two tests per quarter, and max one other thing to hand in. Maybe some small homework assignments that were stuck together into one grade. 7 graded assignments is actually a lot. As teachers, we sometimes have trouble getting them all in. When a student misses some school, they are almost certainly going to get far behind in assignments, and just getting them caught up becomes a major thing. There is no way a kid who missed a week or two of school can easily catch up in all their classes. So they start avoiding work and avoiding school, and the problem spirals. We watch it happen over and over.

We don't even want to give that many separate assignments.

This is crazy. When I was a kid if you missed assignments you just got zeros on them and moved on.

Yes, and we should return to that model.

Agree. Interestingly, FCPS parents now hate a lot of the policies they themselves helped to create. All the complaints about “my kid has a C in English but her friend in Ms Smith’s class has an A and that’s not fair because college looks at GPA” led to a system where we all have to have the same number of assignments in the gradebook every quarter and roughly give the same assignments too. All the complains about “my kid was on vacation or sick and shouldn’t be penalized because colleges look at GPA” led to the endless retake model that discourages kids from trying at all the first time and means they don’t care how much school they miss.

These policies don’t come from nowhere. Parents are very vocal about things like this and the more they complain or threaten to sue, the more the districts bend to the whims. Now you guys have dumbed down school because you wanted inflated 4.8 GPAs so your kids could have a chance at getting into Virginia schools and you think “There’s no rigor here and school feels like a joke.” Yeah. Yeah.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a huge problem, and growing. Mostly school avoidance and mental health issues. No one is sure exactly what the cause is. I think the rolling gradebook and the required 7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter might have something to do with it - work just piles up and up and quickly becomes overwhelming.

7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter is not a lot of work. It's very little work.

The attendance is bad because of the crappy schedule and residual effects of how FCPS implemented covid computer learning and post covid computer learning and grading scales.

Ask any parent of teens

Fcps made consistent in person school and deadlines irrelevant for the current crop of kids. It will be like this for a few more years.

I am a parent of a teen. I am also a teacher. 7 assignments is much more graded work than we ever had when I was in school. We usually had one or two tests per quarter, and max one other thing to hand in. Maybe some small homework assignments that were stuck together into one grade. 7 graded assignments is actually a lot. As teachers, we sometimes have trouble getting them all in. When a student misses some school, they are almost certainly going to get far behind in assignments, and just getting them caught up becomes a major thing. There is no way a kid who missed a week or two of school can easily catch up in all their classes. So they start avoiding work and avoiding school, and the problem spirals. We watch it happen over and over.

We don't even want to give that many separate assignments.

As a math teacher I want to have 20+ assignments a quarter. Mostly low stakes short assignments every day with almost no effect to grade (40 assignments were worth only 10%) to make sure students know what skill they are missing to prepare for the quiz or test in the future. However, I am not allowed to do this anymore and if I make these same assignments ungraded the kids don’t do them or cheat even when it’s for them to know what skills that are missing.

Yes the big problem is the county is pushing the idea that the everyone needs to get the same education in every class. Which creates a cookie cutter classroom that leaks any creativity. Teachers basically have to break rules to do something creative or really do something to help their students. It’s sad, middle school is the worst, they basically just work out of workbooks even though most good teachers hate them. All about lowering the bar and helping the worst

Oh what planet? My child is in middle school in FCPS and we have never ever seen a workbook.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's a huge problem, and growing. Mostly school avoidance and mental health issues. No one is sure exactly what the cause is. I think the rolling gradebook and the required 7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter might have something to do with it - work just piles up and up and quickly becomes overwhelming.

7 assignments and 2 tests per quarter is not a lot of work. It's very little work.

The attendance is bad because of the crappy schedule and residual effects of how FCPS implemented covid computer learning and post covid computer learning and grading scales.

Ask any parent of teens

Fcps made consistent in person school and deadlines irrelevant for the current crop of kids. It will be like this for a few more years.

I am a parent of a teen. I am also a teacher. 7 assignments is much more graded work than we ever had when I was in school. We usually had one or two tests per quarter, and max one other thing to hand in. Maybe some small homework assignments that were stuck together into one grade. 7 graded assignments is actually a lot. As teachers, we sometimes have trouble getting them all in. When a student misses some school, they are almost certainly going to get far behind in assignments, and just getting them caught up becomes a major thing. There is no way a kid who missed a week or two of school can easily catch up in all their classes. So they start avoiding work and avoiding school, and the problem spirals. We watch it happen over and over.

We don't even want to give that many separate assignments.

This is crazy. When I was a kid if you missed assignments you just got zeros on them and moved on.

Yes, and we should return to that model.