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Anonymous wrote:Actually living under Democrats policy is very different than just voting for Democrats, putting up your "all are welcome" yard signs, but then never actually having those policies impact your life.

Now that open borders are tanking our schools AND some are being forced to actually send their kids to those tanked schools, it's a horse of a different color. I say bring on the vouchers if nothing is going to be done to stop the flow. And I say this as someone who has always supported public schools over private.

This! I have been amused by reactions from those in my neighborhood who previously enjoyed virtue signaling the "love is love, no person is illegal, science is real" yard signs, but who now sing a different tune upon hearing their child may have to go to a school with a high ESOL population. There's a huge gap between what they are willing to say and what they are willing to do. I think this represents much of the left leaning Fairfax UMC: I want others to be helped, so long as it doesn't impact me or my loved ones.

Eh, whatever.

Be amused, but the pushback comes from having the cost fall directly on particular kids. I still don’t principally object to well-funded schools, just to kids being used as resources for equitable gains.

And it isn’t like the book banning crowd has provided a compelling alternative.

Why do we have to be one extreme or the other?

Anonymous wrote:Actually living under Democrats policy is very different than just voting for Democrats, putting up your "all are welcome" yard signs, but then never actually having those policies impact your life.

Now that open borders are tanking our schools AND some are being forced to actually send their kids to those tanked schools, it's a horse of a different color. I say bring on the vouchers if nothing is going to be done to stop the flow. And I say this as someone who has always supported public schools over private.

This! I have been amused by reactions from those in my neighborhood who previously enjoyed virtue signaling the "love is love, no person is illegal, science is real" yard signs, but who now sing a different tune upon hearing their child may have to go to a school with a high ESOL population. There's a huge gap between what they are willing to say and what they are willing to do. I think this represents much of the left leaning Fairfax UMC: I want others to be helped, so long as it doesn't impact me or my loved ones.

Anonymous wrote:Actually living under Democrats policy is very different than just voting for Democrats, putting up your "all are welcome" yard signs, but then never actually having those policies impact your life.

Now that open borders are tanking our schools AND some are being forced to actually send their kids to those tanked schools, it's a horse of a different color. I say bring on the vouchers if nothing is going to be done to stop the flow. And I say this as someone who has always supported public schools over private.

Sounds like a bit of a self-own on your part, but the point remains that when state officials treat the public schools as an opportunity to push a nativist, anti-immigrant agenda, some of their own backers may be among those who get burned.

The thing about vouchers is that it removes the only thing keeping myself and a lot of teachers in teaching- the retirement benefits.

You can say the behavior will be better in a charter but I don’t believe it. Behavior won’t get better until personal screens are gone from kids hands all day home and school.

Vouchers will also not happen soon enough to benefit my personal children who are middle school and late elementary. So that is a non starter for me all the way around.

The boundary decisions will definitely affect them. Either with them starting over in high school or friends of theirs leaving their school.

Anonymous wrote:Actually living under Democrats policy is very different than just voting for Democrats, putting up your "all are welcome" yard signs, but then never actually having those policies impact your life.

Now that open borders are tanking our schools AND some are being forced to actually send their kids to those tanked schools, it's a horse of a different color. I say bring on the vouchers if nothing is going to be done to stop the flow. And I say this as someone who has always supported public schools over private.

Where and when I was growing up the local privates were religious schools, and at the high school level had less to offer academically.
As (some) public schools ranked and more parents removed their children and enrolled them in private, the privates were able to expand their offerings and now parents with extra money—or willing to make sacrifices— send them to those or they move in bounds for the publics that are still performing.
I wonder if “equity boundaries” have reached my hometown yet. These ideas and policies are pushed in a state and local level by different organizations so if not, it’s a matter of time.

Actually living under Democrats policy is very different than just voting for Democrats, putting up your "all are welcome" yard signs, but then never actually having those policies impact your life.

Now that open borders are tanking our schools AND some are being forced to actually send their kids to those tanked schools, it's a horse of a different color. I say bring on the vouchers if nothing is going to be done to stop the flow. And I say this as someone who has always supported public schools over private.

So the Republicans at the state level are trying to tighten the screws on accreditation to identify more “failing” public schools and make the case for vouchers, and the conservatives at West Springfield and Langley are now convinced that local Democrats are taking steps to preserve public schools’ accreditation.

Sounds like a case of getting hoisted by one’s own petard.

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon is nowhere remotely close to losing accreditation. Those are just falsehoods spread by Great Falls residents who don’t want district boundaries changed.

Source? Otherwise you’re just speculating to serve your own agenda.

Different poster. The idea that Herndon HS is failing is ludicrous. Academically, it is a middle of the road FCPS high school that outperforms roughly half of FCPS high schools in published metrics. The majority of its graduates go to college and it sends a sizable number of students to top tier Virginia colleges and a fair number to Ivy League schools. With greater parental involvement and/or a smaller percentage of ESL students dragging down overall test scores, it would be among the top tier of FCPS high schools.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1198891.page

Apples and oranges. We’re talking about accreditation, not your definition of whether a school is failing.

DP here and regardless, I don’t think Herndon is in a bad enough spot to risk losing accreditation. But depending on the new rules and standards, Lewis might be. There was a time 10-15 years ago when FCPS thought it was headed in that direction, but the state changed their accreditation standards and then it was ok, so FCPS breathed a sigh of relief and washed their hands of the whole thing. And if Lewis is seriously at risk, Mount Vernon probably is as well.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herndon is nowhere remotely close to losing accreditation. Those are just falsehoods spread by Great Falls residents who don’t want district boundaries changed.

Source? Otherwise you’re just speculating to serve your own agenda.

Different poster. The idea that Herndon HS is failing is ludicrous. Academically, it is a middle of the road FCPS high school that outperforms roughly half of FCPS high schools in published metrics. The majority of its graduates go to college and it sends a sizable number of students to top tier Virginia colleges and a fair number to Ivy League schools. With greater parental involvement and/or a smaller percentage of ESL students dragging down overall test scores, it would be among the top tier of FCPS high schools.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1198891.page

Apples and oranges. We’re talking about accreditation, not your definition of whether a school is failing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herndon is nowhere remotely close to losing accreditation. Those are just falsehoods spread by Great Falls residents who don’t want district boundaries changed.

Source? Otherwise you’re just speculating to serve your own agenda.

Different poster. The idea that Herndon HS is failing is ludicrous. Academically, it is a middle of the road FCPS high school that outperforms roughly half of FCPS high schools in published metrics. The majority of its graduates go to college and it sends a sizable number of students to top tier Virginia colleges and a fair number to Ivy League schools. With greater parental involvement and/or a smaller percentage of ESL students dragging down overall test scores, it would be among the top tier of FCPS high schools.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1198891.page

Anonymous wrote:Herndon is nowhere remotely close to losing accreditation. Those are just falsehoods spread by Great Falls residents who don’t want district boundaries changed.

Source? Otherwise you’re just speculating to serve your own agenda.

Herndon is nowhere remotely close to losing accreditation. Those are just falsehoods spread by Great Falls residents who don’t want district boundaries changed.

Anonymous wrote:Lewis is also on the list of losing accreditation, so Reid and the SB are now implementing busing to save the school. So many resources have been thrown at Lewis with no improvement. The low crime/incident rate reported by Lewis is suspect, does not sync with reality.

Standardized tests only affect a school's evaluation and not the individual student's grade/outcome. SOL tests are not part of an academic record and if my child is moved to Lewis I will work with other parents to encourage our children to intentionally fail SOL tests. It will be retaliation that is low effort, low cost, and will have a high impact on FCPS and the SB.

Anonymous wrote:I read Herndon will likely lose accreditation when the new standards are implemented. Any word on boundary adjustments there?

I don't doubt it, but where did you read this?

Lewis is also on the list of losing accreditation, so Reid and the SB are now implementing busing to save the school. So many resources have been thrown at Lewis with no improvement. The low crime/incident rate reported by Lewis is suspect, does not sync with reality.