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Why do CYA and SYA allow this to happen? They are the board of directors for valor. Maybe this combined experiment has gone too far and SYA and CYA should go back to doing their own club teams.

What is the history of this combined effort gone bad?

Were CYA and SYA really any better? In theory this was a good idea there are way too many small clubs within short distances of one another.

Anonymous wrote:So here’s the real question

Why do CYA and SYA allow this to happen? They are the board of directors for valor. Maybe this combined experiment has gone too far and SYA and CYA should go back to doing their own club teams.

What is the history of this combined effort gone bad?

They make more money combined and they mooch resources off both sya and cya this way.

No. The real question is, was the coach texting during the game today, did he “verbally abuse” his dd during the game (whatever that means), and did she play 56 minutes today?

So here’s the real question

Why do CYA and SYA allow this to happen? They are the board of directors for valor. Maybe this combined experiment has gone too far and SYA and CYA should go back to doing their own club teams.

What is the history of this combined effort gone bad?

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Good to know we are not the only parents who feel this way. Our daughter is on this team as well and I can’t disagree with what I’ve read here regarding the Coach. Last season we saw the growth not just in our daughter but the entire team. Parents were way more into it than now and the team was fun and exciting to watch with lots of close tourney matches where they won and lost. It is a completely different vibe and tone all around from last season.

Anyone have any popcorn DCUM never fails to deliver. I think I’m caught up but not sure if I missed something from the above.

So daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team got fired for being abusive to players but it was a “completely different vibe and tone all around” where “the parents were way more into it”, ??

No, the daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team was a DIFFERENT team than the OP team with the bait and switch parent coach with one daughter who screams at her the whole time. Two separate garbage money grabs.

OP team is 2014 White it’s not a different team another PP already confirmed it earlier in thread. By now I hope the coach has read this. It will be confirmed when his kid sits the bench this week for the first 5 minutes, he stops texting during the game, and says nothing but positive things to his kid while she’s on the field. Problem solved. Moving on.

No. OP said their team had a real coach last year and dad coach this year. 2014G white (formerly silver) had a dad coach last year with 2 kids on the team, but I think (?) that team has a “real” coach this year.

I saw the dad coach talking to that 2014 team after a game last spring. I think they had lost. The only way I can describe what he was doing is bizarre. He was being pretty mean but somehow also weird at the same time. I have never seen anything like it can can’t really describe it. Glad to hear he isn’t coaching anymore.

Valor needs to stop being so greedy and accept that they should only have no more than 3 teams at the younger ages and 2 at the older ages.[b] Stop worrying about social media posts and start worrying about lack of player development.

Agree. 3rd, 4th and 5th teams are all money grabs. [b]Look at the divisions your in and the level of play. Are the clubs teams really playing competitively in the tournaments they've registered for? You can medal up all day in a low level bracket or tournament, but that does not do much for development. This is on brand for Valor and they wonder why they get crushed playing in real tournaments. Its somewhat sad and pathetic. This kids are the ones that suffer.

Not all 3rd and 4th teams are money grabs. As far as tournaments go, take a look for your self, below is a link to the tournaments for each team in the division below from last season. Are they competitive, how many blowout losses are there?

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=National&Country=USA&Gender=Girls&Age=11&search=Virginia+Valor&pos=

Yes. They are all money grabs. The 40-60th best players at tryouts? [b]GMAB[b]

Why ignore or dismiss the facts in the link above? Is it to continue the story you tell yourself about Valor? It looks like the “40-60th best players” did just fine last season finishing 26th in the state. Not everything you or your player experience (assuming your a part of the club) is the same experience of the 900+ other players and their families.

Any rating system that has the *third* level Valor team as top 20 something in the state is hilarious. They wouldn't even be the top 20 something team in Fairfax. How stupid do you think people are? Those website ratings are meaningless.

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Good to know we are not the only parents who feel this way. Our daughter is on this team as well and I can’t disagree with what I’ve read here regarding the Coach. Last season we saw the growth not just in our daughter but the entire team. Parents were way more into it than now and the team was fun and exciting to watch with lots of close tourney matches where they won and lost. It is a completely different vibe and tone all around from last season.

Anyone have any popcorn DCUM never fails to deliver. I think I’m caught up but not sure if I missed something from the above.

So daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team got fired for being abusive to players but it was a “completely different vibe and tone all around” where “the parents were way more into it”, ??

No, the daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team was a DIFFERENT team than the OP team with the bait and switch parent coach with one daughter who screams at her the whole time. Two separate garbage money grabs.

OP team is 2014 White it’s not a different team another PP already confirmed it earlier in thread. By now I hope the coach has read this. It will be confirmed when his kid sits the bench this week for the first 5 minutes, he stops texting during the game, and says nothing but positive things to his kid while she’s on the field. Problem solved. Moving on.

No. OP said their team had a real coach last year and dad coach this year. 2014G white (formerly silver) had a dad coach last year with 2 kids on the team, but I think (?) that team has a “real” coach this year.

I saw the dad coach talking to that 2014 team after a game last spring. I think they had lost. The only way I can describe what he was doing is bizarre. He was being pretty mean but somehow also weird at the same time. I have never seen anything like it can can’t really describe it. Glad to hear he isn’t coaching anymore.

Valor needs to stop being so greedy and accept that they should only have no more than 3 teams at the younger ages and 2 at the older ages. Stop worrying about social media posts and start worrying about lack of player development.

Agree. 3rd, 4th and 5th teams are all money grabs. Look at the divisions your in and the level of play. Are the clubs teams really playing competitively in the tournaments they've registered for? You can medal up all day in a low level bracket or tournament, but that does not do much for development. This is on brand for Valor and they wonder why they get crushed playing in real tournaments. Its somewhat sad and pathetic. This kids are the ones that suffer.

Not all 3rd and 4th teams are money grabs. As far as tournaments go, take a look for your self, below is a link to the tournaments for each team in the division below from last season. Are they competitive, how many blowout losses are there?

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=National&Country=USA&Gender=Girls&Age=11&search=Virginia+Valor&pos=

Yes. They are all money grabs. The 40-60th best players at tryouts? GMAB

OK let's think about this. If you want 2 teams at 11v11 you need about 36.
At 7v7 your average team size is 10-12. How many teams do you need to have 36 stick with it by time you get to 11v11. Probably 4 to 5
At 9v9 your average team size is 12-14. You need 3 teams. And this assumes you don't lose many.
It sure would be nice if at the younger ages and small team sizes more than the top team had a quality coach.

QFT. My DD started on a 5th team and spent 2 years on a 3rd team. She’s now an ECNL starter.

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Good to know we are not the only parents who feel this way. Our daughter is on this team as well and I can’t disagree with what I’ve read here regarding the Coach. Last season we saw the growth not just in our daughter but the entire team. Parents were way more into it than now and the team was fun and exciting to watch with lots of close tourney matches where they won and lost. It is a completely different vibe and tone all around from last season.

Anyone have any popcorn DCUM never fails to deliver. I think I’m caught up but not sure if I missed something from the above.

So daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team got fired for being abusive to players but it was a “completely different vibe and tone all around” where “the parents were way more into it”, ??

No, the daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team was a DIFFERENT team than the OP team with the bait and switch parent coach with one daughter who screams at her the whole time. Two separate garbage money grabs.

OP team is 2014 White it’s not a different team another PP already confirmed it earlier in thread. By now I hope the coach has read this. It will be confirmed when his kid sits the bench this week for the first 5 minutes, he stops texting during the game, and says nothing but positive things to his kid while she’s on the field. Problem solved. Moving on.

No. OP said their team had a real coach last year and dad coach this year. 2014G white (formerly silver) had a dad coach last year with 2 kids on the team, but I think (?) that team has a “real” coach this year.

I saw the dad coach talking to that 2014 team after a game last spring. I think they had lost. The only way I can describe what he was doing is bizarre. He was being pretty mean but somehow also weird at the same time. I have never seen anything like it can can’t really describe it. Glad to hear he isn’t coaching anymore.

Valor needs to stop being so greedy and accept that they should only have no more than 3 teams at the younger ages and 2 at the older ages.[b] Stop worrying about social media posts and start worrying about lack of player development.

Agree. 3rd, 4th and 5th teams are all money grabs. [b]Look at the divisions your in and the level of play. Are the clubs teams really playing competitively in the tournaments they've registered for? You can medal up all day in a low level bracket or tournament, but that does not do much for development. This is on brand for Valor and they wonder why they get crushed playing in real tournaments. Its somewhat sad and pathetic. This kids are the ones that suffer.

Not all 3rd and 4th teams are money grabs. As far as tournaments go, take a look for your self, below is a link to the tournaments for each team in the division below from last season. Are they competitive, how many blowout losses are there?

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=National&Country=USA&Gender=Girls&Age=11&search=Virginia+Valor&pos=

Yes. They are all money grabs. The 40-60th best players at tryouts? [b]GMAB[b]

Why ignore or dismiss the facts in the link above? Is it to continue the story you tell yourself about Valor? It looks like the “40-60th best players” did just fine last season finishing 26th in the state. Not everything you or your player experience (assuming your a part of the club) is the same experience of the 900+ other players and their families.

That age group is a f'ing mess. All the good lower tiered talent left and they could barely field 3 teams this year despite spending the whole spring trying to sucker anyone they could find into joining. Why'd they all leave if it was going so great? The 2014 second team is getting destroyed weekly and got slaughtered last weekend as did the third team. They are being promised that 'trusting the process will lead to great development as the year goes on!'. Going to tournaments and playing other div 5-6 teams is not impressive. Got soccer rankings at this age is extremely unreliable and anyone with a brain can tell how much clubs try and pad their records as best they can to get points and wins even if they are playing basically rec teams from the middle of nowhere Virginia.

Sure you pay more for things for convenience or an experience. Here you are paying 10x the cost. That would be like paying 100 dollars for a McDonald's hamburger. NO one is doing that. And in my experience with this particular club the top team players pay the exact same as the lower team players and are given a much better experience.

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Good to know we are not the only parents who feel this way. Our daughter is on this team as well and I can’t disagree with what I’ve read here regarding the Coach. Last season we saw the growth not just in our daughter but the entire team. Parents were way more into it than now and the team was fun and exciting to watch with lots of close tourney matches where they won and lost. It is a completely different vibe and tone all around from last season.

Anyone have any popcorn DCUM never fails to deliver. I think I’m caught up but not sure if I missed something from the above.

So daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team got fired for being abusive to players but it was a “completely different vibe and tone all around” where “the parents were way more into it”, ??

No, the daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team was a DIFFERENT team than the OP team with the bait and switch parent coach with one daughter who screams at her the whole time. Two separate garbage money grabs.

OP team is 2014 White it’s not a different team another PP already confirmed it earlier in thread. By now I hope the coach has read this. It will be confirmed when his kid sits the bench this week for the first 5 minutes, he stops texting during the game, and says nothing but positive things to his kid while she’s on the field. Problem solved. Moving on.

No. OP said their team had a real coach last year and dad coach this year. 2014G white (formerly silver) had a dad coach last year with 2 kids on the team, but I think (?) that team has a “real” coach this year.

I saw the dad coach talking to that 2014 team after a game last spring. I think they had lost. The only way I can describe what he was doing is bizarre. He was being pretty mean but somehow also weird at the same time. I have never seen anything like it can can’t really describe it. Glad to hear he isn’t coaching anymore.

Valor needs to stop being so greedy and accept that they should only have no more than 3 teams at the younger ages and 2 at the older ages. Stop worrying about social media posts and start worrying about lack of player development.

Agree. 3rd, 4th and 5th teams are all money grabs. Look at the divisions your in and the level of play. Are the clubs teams really playing competitively in the tournaments they've registered for? You can medal up all day in a low level bracket or tournament, but that does not do much for development. This is on brand for Valor and they wonder why they get crushed playing in real tournaments. Its somewhat sad and pathetic. This kids are the ones that suffer.

Not all 3rd and 4th teams are money grabs. As far as tournaments go, take a look for your self, below is a link to the tournaments for each team in the division below from last season. Are they competitive, how many blowout losses are there?

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=National&Country=USA&Gender=Girls&Age=11&search=Virginia+Valor&pos=

Yes. They are all money grabs. The 40-60th best players at tryouts? GMAB

Why look at it that way? They are providing a service that people want to buy. Rec often sucks. Lower level travel can be better. [b]It’s a money grab the way the gas station is because you have to pay for gas or McDonald’s is because you have to pay for food. You can eat at home and take the bus but people like to do other things.[b]

I am so thankful and blessed to own a Tesla and a McDonald’s so my kid doesn’t have to play CYA rec.

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Good to know we are not the only parents who feel this way. Our daughter is on this team as well and I can’t disagree with what I’ve read here regarding the Coach. Last season we saw the growth not just in our daughter but the entire team. Parents were way more into it than now and the team was fun and exciting to watch with lots of close tourney matches where they won and lost. It is a completely different vibe and tone all around from last season.

Anyone have any popcorn DCUM never fails to deliver. I think I’m caught up but not sure if I missed something from the above.

So daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team got fired for being abusive to players but it was a “completely different vibe and tone all around” where “the parents were way more into it”, ??

No, the daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team was a DIFFERENT team than the OP team with the bait and switch parent coach with one daughter who screams at her the whole time. Two separate garbage money grabs.

OP team is 2014 White it’s not a different team another PP already confirmed it earlier in thread. By now I hope the coach has read this. It will be confirmed when his kid sits the bench this week for the first 5 minutes, he stops texting during the game, and says nothing but positive things to his kid while she’s on the field. Problem solved. Moving on.

No. OP said their team had a real coach last year and dad coach this year. 2014G white (formerly silver) had a dad coach last year with 2 kids on the team, but I think (?) that team has a “real” coach this year.

I saw the dad coach talking to that 2014 team after a game last spring. I think they had lost. The only way I can describe what he was doing is bizarre. He was being pretty mean but somehow also weird at the same time. I have never seen anything like it can can’t really describe it. Glad to hear he isn’t coaching anymore.

Valor needs to stop being so greedy and accept that they should only have no more than 3 teams at the younger ages and 2 at the older ages.[b] Stop worrying about social media posts and start worrying about lack of player development.

Agree. 3rd, 4th and 5th teams are all money grabs. [b]Look at the divisions your in and the level of play. Are the clubs teams really playing competitively in the tournaments they've registered for? You can medal up all day in a low level bracket or tournament, but that does not do much for development. This is on brand for Valor and they wonder why they get crushed playing in real tournaments. Its somewhat sad and pathetic. This kids are the ones that suffer.

Not all 3rd and 4th teams are money grabs. As far as tournaments go, take a look for your self, below is a link to the tournaments for each team in the division below from last season. Are they competitive, how many blowout losses are there?

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=National&Country=USA&Gender=Girls&Age=11&search=Virginia+Valor&pos=

Yes. They are all money grabs. The 40-60th best players at tryouts? [b]GMAB[b]

Why ignore or dismiss the facts in the link above? Is it to continue the story you tell yourself about Valor? It looks like the “40-60th best players” did just fine last season finishing 26th in the state. Not everything you or your player experience (assuming your a part of the club) is the same experience of the 900+ other players and their families.

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Good to know we are not the only parents who feel this way. Our daughter is on this team as well and I can’t disagree with what I’ve read here regarding the Coach. Last season we saw the growth not just in our daughter but the entire team. Parents were way more into it than now and the team was fun and exciting to watch with lots of close tourney matches where they won and lost. It is a completely different vibe and tone all around from last season.

Anyone have any popcorn DCUM never fails to deliver. I think I’m caught up but not sure if I missed something from the above.

So daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team got fired for being abusive to players but it was a “completely different vibe and tone all around” where “the parents were way more into it”, ??

No, the daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team was a DIFFERENT team than the OP team with the bait and switch parent coach with one daughter who screams at her the whole time. Two separate garbage money grabs.

OP team is 2014 White it’s not a different team another PP already confirmed it earlier in thread. By now I hope the coach has read this. It will be confirmed when his kid sits the bench this week for the first 5 minutes, he stops texting during the game, and says nothing but positive things to his kid while she’s on the field. Problem solved. Moving on.

No. OP said their team had a real coach last year and dad coach this year. 2014G white (formerly silver) had a dad coach last year with 2 kids on the team, but I think (?) that team has a “real” coach this year.

I saw the dad coach talking to that 2014 team after a game last spring. I think they had lost. The only way I can describe what he was doing is bizarre. He was being pretty mean but somehow also weird at the same time. I have never seen anything like it can can’t really describe it. Glad to hear he isn’t coaching anymore.

Valor needs to stop being so greedy and accept that they should only have no more than 3 teams at the younger ages and 2 at the older ages. Stop worrying about social media posts and start worrying about lack of player development.

Agree. 3rd, 4th and 5th teams are all money grabs. Look at the divisions your in and the level of play. Are the clubs teams really playing competitively in the tournaments they've registered for? You can medal up all day in a low level bracket or tournament, but that does not do much for development. This is on brand for Valor and they wonder why they get crushed playing in real tournaments. Its somewhat sad and pathetic. This kids are the ones that suffer.

Not all 3rd and 4th teams are money grabs. As far as tournaments go, take a look for your self, below is a link to the tournaments for each team in the division below from last season. Are they competitive, how many blowout losses are there?

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=National&Country=USA&Gender=Girls&Age=11&search=Virginia+Valor&pos=

Yes. They are all money grabs. The 40-60th best players at tryouts? GMAB

Why look at it that way? They are providing a service that people want to buy. Rec often sucks. Lower level travel can be better. It’s a money grab the way the gas station is because you have to pay for gas or McDonald’s is because you have to pay for food. You can eat at home and take the bus but people like to do other things.

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Good to know we are not the only parents who feel this way. Our daughter is on this team as well and I can’t disagree with what I’ve read here regarding the Coach. Last season we saw the growth not just in our daughter but the entire team. Parents were way more into it than now and the team was fun and exciting to watch with lots of close tourney matches where they won and lost. It is a completely different vibe and tone all around from last season.

Anyone have any popcorn DCUM never fails to deliver. I think I’m caught up but not sure if I missed something from the above.

So daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team got fired for being abusive to players but it was a “completely different vibe and tone all around” where “the parents were way more into it”, ??

No, the daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team was a DIFFERENT team than the OP team with the bait and switch parent coach with one daughter who screams at her the whole time. Two separate garbage money grabs.

OP team is 2014 White it’s not a different team another PP already confirmed it earlier in thread. By now I hope the coach has read this. It will be confirmed when his kid sits the bench this week for the first 5 minutes, he stops texting during the game, and says nothing but positive things to his kid while she’s on the field. Problem solved. Moving on.

No. OP said their team had a real coach last year and dad coach this year. 2014G white (formerly silver) had a dad coach last year with 2 kids on the team, but I think (?) that team has a “real” coach this year.

I saw the dad coach talking to that 2014 team after a game last spring. I think they had lost. The only way I can describe what he was doing is bizarre. He was being pretty mean but somehow also weird at the same time. I have never seen anything like it can can’t really describe it. Glad to hear he isn’t coaching anymore.

Valor needs to stop being so greedy and accept that they should only have no more than 3 teams at the younger ages and 2 at the older ages. Stop worrying about social media posts and start worrying about lack of player development.

Agree. 3rd, 4th and 5th teams are all money grabs. Look at the divisions your in and the level of play. Are the clubs teams really playing competitively in the tournaments they've registered for? You can medal up all day in a low level bracket or tournament, but that does not do much for development. This is on brand for Valor and they wonder why they get crushed playing in real tournaments. Its somewhat sad and pathetic. This kids are the ones that suffer.

Not all 3rd and 4th teams are money grabs. As far as tournaments go, take a look for your self, below is a link to the tournaments for each team in the division below from last season. Are they competitive, how many blowout losses are there?

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=National&Country=USA&Gender=Girls&Age=11&search=Virginia+Valor&pos=

Yes. They are all money grabs. The 40-60th best players at tryouts? GMAB

This made me spit out my chili haha!

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Good to know we are not the only parents who feel this way. Our daughter is on this team as well and I can’t disagree with what I’ve read here regarding the Coach. Last season we saw the growth not just in our daughter but the entire team. Parents were way more into it than now and the team was fun and exciting to watch with lots of close tourney matches where they won and lost. It is a completely different vibe and tone all around from last season.

Anyone have any popcorn DCUM never fails to deliver. I think I’m caught up but not sure if I missed something from the above.

So daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team got fired for being abusive to players but it was a “completely different vibe and tone all around” where “the parents were way more into it”, ??

No, the daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team was a DIFFERENT team than the OP team with the bait and switch parent coach with one daughter who screams at her the whole time. Two separate garbage money grabs.

OP team is 2014 White it’s not a different team another PP already confirmed it earlier in thread. By now I hope the coach has read this. It will be confirmed when his kid sits the bench this week for the first 5 minutes, he stops texting during the game, and says nothing but positive things to his kid while she’s on the field. Problem solved. Moving on.

No. OP said their team had a real coach last year and dad coach this year. 2014G white (formerly silver) had a dad coach last year with 2 kids on the team, but I think (?) that team has a “real” coach this year.

I saw the dad coach talking to that 2014 team after a game last spring. I think they had lost. The only way I can describe what he was doing is bizarre. He was being pretty mean but somehow also weird at the same time. I have never seen anything like it can can’t really describe it. Glad to hear he isn’t coaching anymore.

Valor needs to stop being so greedy and accept that they should only have no more than 3 teams at the younger ages and 2 at the older ages. Stop worrying about social media posts and start worrying about lack of player development.

Agree. 3rd, 4th and 5th teams are all money grabs. Look at the divisions your in and the level of play. Are the clubs teams really playing competitively in the tournaments they've registered for? You can medal up all day in a low level bracket or tournament, but that does not do much for development. This is on brand for Valor and they wonder why they get crushed playing in real tournaments. Its somewhat sad and pathetic. This kids are the ones that suffer.

Not all 3rd and 4th teams are money grabs. As far as tournaments go, take a look for your self, below is a link to the tournaments for each team in the division below from last season. Are they competitive, how many blowout losses are there?

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=National&Country=USA&Gender=Girls&Age=11&search=Virginia+Valor&pos=

Yes. They are all money grabs. The 40-60th best players at tryouts? GMAB

OK let's think about this. If you want 2 teams at 11v11 you need about 36.
At 7v7 your average team size is 10-12. How many teams do you need to have 36 stick with it by time you get to 11v11. Probably 4 to 5
At 9v9 your average team size is 12-14. You need 3 teams. And this assumes you don't lose many.
It sure would be nice if at the younger ages and small team sizes more than the top team had a quality coach.

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Good to know we are not the only parents who feel this way. Our daughter is on this team as well and I can’t disagree with what I’ve read here regarding the Coach. Last season we saw the growth not just in our daughter but the entire team. Parents were way more into it than now and the team was fun and exciting to watch with lots of close tourney matches where they won and lost. It is a completely different vibe and tone all around from last season.

Anyone have any popcorn DCUM never fails to deliver. I think I’m caught up but not sure if I missed something from the above.

So daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team got fired for being abusive to players but it was a “completely different vibe and tone all around” where “the parents were way more into it”, ??

No, the daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team was a DIFFERENT team than the OP team with the bait and switch parent coach with one daughter who screams at her the whole time. Two separate garbage money grabs.

OP team is 2014 White it’s not a different team another PP already confirmed it earlier in thread. By now I hope the coach has read this. It will be confirmed when his kid sits the bench this week for the first 5 minutes, he stops texting during the game, and says nothing but positive things to his kid while she’s on the field. Problem solved. Moving on.

No. OP said their team had a real coach last year and dad coach this year. 2014G white (formerly silver) had a dad coach last year with 2 kids on the team, but I think (?) that team has a “real” coach this year.

I saw the dad coach talking to that 2014 team after a game last spring. I think they had lost. The only way I can describe what he was doing is bizarre. He was being pretty mean but somehow also weird at the same time. I have never seen anything like it can can’t really describe it. Glad to hear he isn’t coaching anymore.

Valor needs to stop being so greedy and accept that they should only have no more than 3 teams at the younger ages and 2 at the older ages. Stop worrying about social media posts and start worrying about lack of player development.

Agree. 3rd, 4th and 5th teams are all money grabs. Look at the divisions your in and the level of play. Are the clubs teams really playing competitively in the tournaments they've registered for? You can medal up all day in a low level bracket or tournament, but that does not do much for development. This is on brand for Valor and they wonder why they get crushed playing in real tournaments. Its somewhat sad and pathetic. This kids are the ones that suffer.

Not all 3rd and 4th teams are money grabs. As far as tournaments go, take a look for your self, below is a link to the tournaments for each team in the division below from last season. Are they competitive, how many blowout losses are there?

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=National&Country=USA&Gender=Girls&Age=11&search=Virginia+Valor&pos=

Yes. They are all money grabs. The 40-60th best players at tryouts? GMAB

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Good to know we are not the only parents who feel this way. Our daughter is on this team as well and I can’t disagree with what I’ve read here regarding the Coach. Last season we saw the growth not just in our daughter but the entire team. Parents were way more into it than now and the team was fun and exciting to watch with lots of close tourney matches where they won and lost. It is a completely different vibe and tone all around from last season.

Anyone have any popcorn DCUM never fails to deliver. I think I’m caught up but not sure if I missed something from the above.

So daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team got fired for being abusive to players but it was a “completely different vibe and tone all around” where “the parents were way more into it”, ??

No, the daddyball coach with 2 kids on the team was a DIFFERENT team than the OP team with the bait and switch parent coach with one daughter who screams at her the whole time. Two separate garbage money grabs.

OP team is 2014 White it’s not a different team another PP already confirmed it earlier in thread. By now I hope the coach has read this. It will be confirmed when his kid sits the bench this week for the first 5 minutes, he stops texting during the game, and says nothing but positive things to his kid while she’s on the field. Problem solved. Moving on.

No. OP said their team had a real coach last year and dad coach this year. 2014G white (formerly silver) had a dad coach last year with 2 kids on the team, but I think (?) that team has a “real” coach this year.

I saw the dad coach talking to that 2014 team after a game last spring. I think they had lost. The only way I can describe what he was doing is bizarre. He was being pretty mean but somehow also weird at the same time. I have never seen anything like it can can’t really describe it. Glad to hear he isn’t coaching anymore.

Valor needs to stop being so greedy and accept that they should only have no more than 3 teams at the younger ages and 2 at the older ages. Stop worrying about social media posts and start worrying about lack of player development.

Agree. 3rd, 4th and 5th teams are all money grabs. Look at the divisions your in and the level of play. Are the clubs teams really playing competitively in the tournaments they've registered for? You can medal up all day in a low level bracket or tournament, but that does not do much for development. This is on brand for Valor and they wonder why they get crushed playing in real tournaments. Its somewhat sad and pathetic. This kids are the ones that suffer.

Not all 3rd and 4th teams are money grabs. As far as tournaments go, take a look for your self, below is a link to the tournaments for each team in the division below from last season. Are they competitive, how many blowout losses are there?

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=National&Country=USA&Gender=Girls&Age=11&search=Virginia+Valor&pos=

My DDs team is currently 1-1-6. All the nepotism and favorites while lack of playing time for others sure is producing excellent results.