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Anonymous wrote:What's the deal with stocking up toilet paper? I'm one of the few people who didn't stock up anything, only do social distancing. I understand people buying canned food, mask etc., but why toilet paper?

I think partly because everyone is buying it up. I don’t want to be down to my last 2 rolls and go to the store to see none in stock. Same thing with handsoap.

But it’s not the end of the world. If you run out of tp you could ise other stuff to clean your butt. Napkins, paper towels, baby wipes, cut up old tshirts and use them. Use rags. There are alternatives. Toilet paper is a relatively modern convenience. How do you think people managed back in the day?

Have you had to make do with rags before? How did that go?

NP. after I gave birth I had to use the shower. Not rags. But couldn't sit down and make waste so had to stand in the shower. catch and throw and then wash. I survived.

For reals? Obviously people survive without it. But it’s not ideal and if you can stock up (not hoard) why not? I have a friend whose sister lives in Korea and she is out of TP and isn’t loving washing poopy rags all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:What's the deal with stocking up toilet paper? I'm one of the few people who didn't stock up anything, only do social distancing. I understand people buying canned food, mask etc., but why toilet paper?

I think partly because everyone is buying it up. I don’t want to be down to my last 2 rolls and go to the store to see none in stock. Same thing with handsoap.

But it’s not the end of the world. If you run out of tp you could ise other stuff to clean your butt. Napkins, paper towels, baby wipes, cut up old tshirts and use them. Use rags. There are alternatives. Toilet paper is a relatively modern convenience. How do you think people managed back in the day?

Have you had to make do with rags before? How did that go?

NP. after I gave birth I had to use the shower. Not rags. But couldn't sit down and make waste so had to stand in the shower. catch and throw and then wash. I survived.

For reals? Obviously people survive without it. But it’s not ideal and if you can stock up (not hoard) why not? I have a friend whose sister lives in Korea and she is out of TP and isn’t loving washing poopy rags all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:I know this isn't helpful, but maybe if I vent here, I will feel better.

Is anyone else mad at China? All this death and suffering because of unsanitary markets that should have been shut down after SARS. Plus initial government dishonesty.

Just seems so unnecessary .

I am.

Omg me too. F^ck China and their dirty meat markets.

More like eff China’s authoritarianism. I read that local officials hushed up what was happening because they didn’t want to upset dear leader. Which makes the US look bad too...

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Anonymous wrote:What's the deal with stocking up toilet paper? I'm one of the few people who didn't stock up anything, only do social distancing. I understand people buying canned food, mask etc., but why toilet paper?

I think partly because everyone is buying it up. I don’t want to be down to my last 2 rolls and go to the store to see none in stock. Same thing with handsoap.

But it’s not the end of the world. If you run out of tp you could ise other stuff to clean your butt. Napkins, paper towels, baby wipes, cut up old tshirts and use them. Use rags. There are alternatives. Toilet paper is a relatively modern convenience. How do you think people managed back in the day?

Have you had to make do with rags before? How did that go?

NP. after I gave birth I had to use the shower. Not rags. But couldn't sit down and make waste so had to stand in the shower. catch and throw and then wash. I survived.

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Anonymous wrote:This site has the best stats. US is on track to follow Italy. Not good.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I am not sure what you are inferring that from. You can't just look at the number of cases--the number per capita is important. And Worldometer gives you that.

The US is sandwiched between Germany (more cases) and Switzerland (fewer cases). But if you look at cases per million of population you get a much different story:

Germany: 33
US: 5
Switzerland: 100

What this means is that we have a much better chance of routing the virus more easily than Germany and a whole lot easier than Switzerland because we are still at a stage where non-pharmaceutical measures can work to slow down spread. (Switzerland I am afraid is past this.)

If we act NOW to close down schools, ban public gatherings, and suspend religious services we have a very good chance of flattening the curve. A lot of other countries are now looking at Italy and saying that is not what we want to happen. Ireland and Belgium have taken these actions. France, Spain, and Germany are now closing down schools but they are much alter in the cycle than we are.

These numbers don't show the results if you have uniformly available testing. If we were testing as widely here as in Europe, our numbers would be much higher.

Some countries like Italy are testing widely. Lots of complaints on reddit about limited testing in a number of other countries, for example, Germany and the Netherlands. Apparently, in Germany the test is quite expensive an you have to pay for it--not covered by insurance.

Where are you getting that info? Germany has socialized medicine. It shouldn’t be expensive to get tested.

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Anonymous wrote:This site has the best stats. US is on track to follow Italy. Not good.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I am not sure what you are inferring that from. You can't just look at the number of cases--the number per capita is important. And Worldometer gives you that.

The US is sandwiched between Germany (more cases) and Switzerland (fewer cases). But if you look at cases per million of population you get a much different story:

Germany: 33
US: 5
Switzerland: 100

What this means is that we have a much better chance of routing the virus more easily than Germany and a whole lot easier than Switzerland because we are still at a stage where non-pharmaceutical measures can work to slow down spread. (Switzerland I am afraid is past this.)

If we act NOW to close down schools, ban public gatherings, and suspend religious services we have a very good chance of flattening the curve. A lot of other countries are now looking at Italy and saying that is not what we want to happen. Ireland and Belgium have taken these actions. France, Spain, and Germany are now closing down schools but they are much alter in the cycle than we are.

These numbers don't show the results if you have uniformly available testing. If we were testing as widely here as in Europe, our numbers would be much higher.

Some countries like Italy are testing widely. Lots of complaints on reddit about limited testing in a number of other countries, for example, Germany and the Netherlands. Apparently, in Germany the test is quite expensive an you have to pay for it--not covered by insurance.

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Anonymous wrote:This site has the best stats. US is on track to follow Italy. Not good.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I am not sure what you are inferring that from. You can't just look at the number of cases--the number per capita is important. And Worldometer gives you that.

The US is sandwiched between Germany (more cases) and Switzerland (fewer cases). But if you look at cases per million of population you get a much different story:

Germany: 33
US: 5
Switzerland: 100

What this means is that we have a much better chance of routing the virus more easily than Germany and a whole lot easier than Switzerland because we are still at a stage where non-pharmaceutical measures can work to slow down spread. (Switzerland I am afraid is past this.)

If we act NOW to close down schools, ban public gatherings, and suspend religious services we have a very good chance of flattening the curve. A lot of other countries are now looking at Italy and saying that is not what we want to happen. Ireland and Belgium have taken these actions. France, Spain, and Germany are now closing down schools but they are much alter in the cycle than we are.

These numbers don't show the results if you have uniformly available testing. If we were testing as widely here as in Europe, our numbers would be much higher.

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Anonymous wrote:What's the deal with stocking up toilet paper? I'm one of the few people who didn't stock up anything, only do social distancing. I understand people buying canned food, mask etc., but why toilet paper?

I think partly because everyone is buying it up. I don’t want to be down to my last 2 rolls and go to the store to see none in stock. Same thing with handsoap.

But it’s not the end of the world. If you run out of tp you could ise other stuff to clean your butt. Napkins, paper towels, baby wipes, cut up old tshirts and use them. Use rags. There are alternatives. Toilet paper is a relatively modern convenience. How do you think people managed back in the day?

Have you had to make do with rags before? How did that go?

Anonymous wrote:This site has the best stats. US is on track to follow Italy. Not good.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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Anonymous wrote:I know this isn't helpful, but maybe if I vent here, I will feel better.

Is anyone else mad at China? All this death and suffering because of unsanitary markets that should have been shut down after SARS. Plus initial government dishonesty.

Just seems so unnecessary .

I am.

Omg me too. F^ck China and their dirty meat markets.

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Anonymous wrote:What's the deal with stocking up toilet paper? I'm one of the few people who didn't stock up anything, only do social distancing. I understand people buying canned food, mask etc., but why toilet paper?

I think partly because everyone is buying it up. I don’t want to be down to my last 2 rolls and go to the store to see none in stock. Same thing with handsoap.

But it’s not the end of the world. If you run out of tp you could ise other stuff to clean your butt. Napkins, paper towels, baby wipes, cut up old tshirts and use them. Use rags. There are alternatives. Toilet paper is a relatively modern convenience. How do you think people managed back in the day?