Anonymous wrote:If some good can come from this murder, it would be the mobilization of the American public raising its voice loudly to be heard. It would be the mobilization of the American public demanding accountibility. It would be the groundswell of immense pressure forcing the healthcare system to retreat from predatory practices that are killing millions of Americans.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a person who is pretty moderate (and not in the insurance business) and I’m absolutely shocked at the response to this murder (while also recognizing that people are right to be fed up with insurance companies.) It’s really disturbing groupthink and I hope no one I know irl says something like the folks on this thread because I will not be able to look at them the same way.

There are a lot of people on DCUM going through the “wait - are we the baddies???” mental process right now.

Yes, quite a few people here on DCUM are in fact baddies, cut from the same cloth as that CEO - except not quite as financially successful as he was. But otherwise the same. They’re the ones outraged about this.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a person who is pretty moderate (and not in the insurance business) and I’m absolutely shocked at the response to this murder (while also recognizing that people are right to be fed up with insurance companies.) It’s really disturbing groupthink and I hope no one I know irl says something like the folks on this thread because I will not be able to look at them the same way.

There are a lot of people on DCUM going through the “wait - are we the baddies???” mental process right now.

Anonymous wrote:No politician from any end of the political spectrum is going to touch this with a 10 foot pole.

Anonymous wrote:Here is the take of a popular and sympathetic physician.

https://www.tiktok.com/@drglaucomflecken/video/7445047136179342638

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t get enough of the hot takes and memes. Just so much incredible content from angry masses.

Isn’t he a Columbia professor?

If so, why in God’s name is he still employed by Columbia? Strip his tenure and have campus security escort him off campus. Permanently.

Anonymous wrote:I can’t get enough of the hot takes and memes. Just so much incredible content from angry masses.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a person who is pretty moderate (and not in the insurance business) and I’m absolutely shocked at the response to this murder (while also recognizing that people are right to be fed up with insurance companies.) It’s really disturbing groupthink and I hope no one I know irl says something like the folks on this thread because I will not be able to look at them the same way.

That's probably because you are pretty comfortable and you have hadn't to deal with parents, grandparents, siblings, or your children being denied health care by an accountant.

There are millions of people who have died, suffered, or been destroyed financially so that the CEO of UHC can make his bonus. It's completely reasonable that the entire country - both left and right - is cheering for the shooter. So many families have suffered and died for this guys wealth. And united healthcare was the worst of the worst. That CEO was genuine scum who caused a lot of unnecessary death and suffering - for his money.

Health insurance isn't a toy company. Everyone needs health care to live. And this guy denies life for his profit. It's not at all surprising that people are having some feelings.

You can't have low (or really, not absurdly high) premiums without denying some care.

The point is they would regularly deny care they had promised to provide (and had collected premiums for).

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Anonymous wrote:This is the only event since maybe 9/11 that has united the left and right.

Corporate media and right wing grifters are scrambling to shift the narrative and get their audience to feel sorry for this parasite.

Of course. The right wing is entirely funded by corporations who have convinced the average Joe to vote for policies that completely screw him over so the rich can get richer.

They will be desperately scrambling to try to get conservatives to get back on the side of billionaires and again fall for the "they're billionaires because they work hard! It's a Meritocracy!" BS.

It’s hardly just the right wing. All corporate media got marching orders to demonize the mocking, defend ruthless CEOs, and pivot away from any dialogue on predatory practices in U.S. health care and insurance industries.

I think left-wing hopped too early on the "all murder is wrong!" train. Usually their knee jerk reaction whenever someone is killed is to condemn the killer without the facts (see: Daniel Penny) but they mis-calculated on this one. 99% of left wing people I know were keeping their mouths shut until they saw what other people said and how everyone was reacting to it.

Has Trump said anything? I haven't seen anything from him. VERY interesting if he's keeping his mouth shut on this one. If he truly cared about the healthcare system, he'd be using this as an opportunity to bloviate on how horrible it is and how he'll fix it. If he keeps quiet, we know he's making sure he doesn't piss of Corporate America because they're signing his paychecks.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the only event since maybe 9/11 that has united the left and right.

Corporate media and right wing grifters are scrambling to shift the narrative and get their audience to feel sorry for this parasite.

Of course. The right wing is entirely funded by corporations who have convinced the average Joe to vote for policies that completely screw him over so the rich can get richer.

They will be desperately scrambling to try to get conservatives to get back on the side of billionaires and again fall for the "they're billionaires because they work hard! It's a Meritocracy!" BS.

It’s hardly just the right wing. All corporate media got marching orders to demonize the mocking, defend ruthless CEOs, and pivot away from any dialogue on predatory practices in U.S. health care and insurance industries.