Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had to take my sons off VLC because it was run so poorly. It should be a great club because there’s a ton of “good but not elite”players in nova and they need a team. I think it’s probably too late for VLC with True stealing their market share but here is how I would turn it around if I were in charge.
1. Fields. Why does true practice at Bishop O’Connell and Meridian high school with nice turf field and lights and Vlc practice is a barron and camron Park and Cav’ feild. This is a killer in early spring with practices being cancelled because of wet fields and lack of light.
2. Communications. We could not discuss practice times and locations with the Club. We had practices where less than half of the kids could attend.
3. Appropriate competition. The VLC youth teams are not (with some exceptions) elite and we were forced to go to tournaments where we were playing top level teams. One or two reach tournaments are a great idea but when your team is getting killed weekend after weekend it is a morale killer. Again we tried to discuss with the club and we’re basically told to deal with it.
4. Coaches. The quality of the coaching was inconsistent with a few great coaches but mostly mediocre at best coaching. Again parents approached the club and were told to deal.
5. Tryouts. Tryouts were poorly run with very little actual evaluation and some head scratching decisions.
There is a place for VLC in Virginia. But it needs to improve if it’s going to compete at the youth level.
Wow there are not elite players in N.VA? That is an uniformed opinion. The best defense player in the world, multiple PLL players, top player in the 2024 class, top freshman in college lacrosse last year, multiple all Americans, numerous D1 committed players in the 2023 and 2024 class all came from and played in NVYLL teams and you think there are not future Elite players?
The problem is that too many parents are worrying about HOCO league results and middle school tournaments and not staying with and building a solid team. VLC used to start at 7th grade and had one team that was tough to make and brought the best of the best. The problem is all of the clubs are robbing NVYLL and for the first time ever participation in rec lacrosse is down. These club teams are all suffering from not supporting rec lacrosse and it is a snake eating it's own head.
Could you explain why VLC does not have a 2027 team then?
I do not have the first clue about why VLC does not have a 2027 team. I made the previous post and I do not have any current affiliation with VLC as I had one play who is now in college. If anything I was defending N.VA lacrosse talent. The point is that currently parents seem to be chasing club wins and willing to buy what is being sold by the latest club. The only difference is that instead of paying $200 for spring lacrosse and renting equipment parents are all too willing shell out 10X that much for less consistent coaching. The result is lower participation in NVYLL which will hurt all the clubs. The clubs do not care. But yes, it is the parents not the clubs that are hurting lacrosse in N.VA.
Anonymous wrote:I had to take my sons off VLC because it was run so poorly. It should be a great club because there’s a ton of “good but not elite”players in nova and they need a team. I think it’s probably too late for VLC with True stealing their market share but here is how I would turn it around if I were in charge.
1. Fields. Why does true practice at Bishop O’Connell and Meridian high school with nice turf field and lights and Vlc practice is a barron and camron Park and Cav’ feild. This is a killer in early spring with practices being cancelled because of wet fields and lack of light.
2. Communications. We could not discuss practice times and locations with the Club. We had practices where less than half of the kids could attend.
3. Appropriate competition. The VLC youth teams are not (with some exceptions) elite and we were forced to go to tournaments where we were playing top level teams. One or two reach tournaments are a great idea but when your team is getting killed weekend after weekend it is a morale killer. Again we tried to discuss with the club and we’re basically told to deal with it.
4. Coaches. The quality of the coaching was inconsistent with a few great coaches but mostly mediocre at best coaching. Again parents approached the club and were told to deal.
5. Tryouts. Tryouts were poorly run with very little actual evaluation and some head scratching decisions.
There is a place for VLC in Virginia. But it needs to improve if it’s going to compete at the youth level.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had to take my sons off VLC because it was run so poorly. It should be a great club because there’s a ton of “good but not elite”players in nova and they need a team. I think it’s probably too late for VLC with True stealing their market share but here is how I would turn it around if I were in charge.
1. Fields. Why does true practice at Bishop O’Connell and Meridian high school with nice turf field and lights and Vlc practice is a barron and camron Park and Cav’ feild. This is a killer in early spring with practices being cancelled because of wet fields and lack of light.
2. Communications. We could not discuss practice times and locations with the Club. We had practices where less than half of the kids could attend.
3. Appropriate competition. The VLC youth teams are not (with some exceptions) elite and we were forced to go to tournaments where we were playing top level teams. One or two reach tournaments are a great idea but when your team is getting killed weekend after weekend it is a morale killer. Again we tried to discuss with the club and we’re basically told to deal with it.
4. Coaches. The quality of the coaching was inconsistent with a few great coaches but mostly mediocre at best coaching. Again parents approached the club and were told to deal.
5. Tryouts. Tryouts were poorly run with very little actual evaluation and some head scratching decisions.
There is a place for VLC in Virginia. But it needs to improve if it’s going to compete at the youth level.
Wow there are not elite players in N.VA? That is an uniformed opinion. The best defense player in the world, multiple PLL players, top player in the 2024 class, top freshman in college lacrosse last year, multiple all Americans, numerous D1 committed players in the 2023 and 2024 class all came from and played in NVYLL teams and you think there are not future Elite players?
The problem is that too many parents are worrying about HOCO league results and middle school tournaments and not staying with and building a solid team. VLC used to start at 7th grade and had one team that was tough to make and brought the best of the best. The problem is all of the clubs are robbing NVYLL and for the first time ever participation in rec lacrosse is down. These club teams are all suffering from not supporting rec lacrosse and it is a snake eating it's own head.
Could you explain why VLC does not have a 2027 team then?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had to take my sons off VLC because it was run so poorly. It should be a great club because there’s a ton of “good but not elite”players in nova and they need a team. I think it’s probably too late for VLC with True stealing their market share but here is how I would turn it around if I were in charge.
1. Fields. Why does true practice at Bishop O’Connell and Meridian high school with nice turf field and lights and Vlc practice is a barron and camron Park and Cav’ feild. This is a killer in early spring with practices being cancelled because of wet fields and lack of light.
2. Communications. We could not discuss practice times and locations with the Club. We had practices where less than half of the kids could attend.
3. Appropriate competition. The VLC youth teams are not (with some exceptions) elite and we were forced to go to tournaments where we were playing top level teams. One or two reach tournaments are a great idea but when your team is getting killed weekend after weekend it is a morale killer. Again we tried to discuss with the club and we’re basically told to deal with it.
4. Coaches. The quality of the coaching was inconsistent with a few great coaches but mostly mediocre at best coaching. Again parents approached the club and were told to deal.
5. Tryouts. Tryouts were poorly run with very little actual evaluation and some head scratching decisions.
There is a place for VLC in Virginia. But it needs to improve if it’s going to compete at the youth level.
Wow there are not elite players in N.VA? That is an uniformed opinion. The best defense player in the world, multiple PLL players, top player in the 2024 class, top freshman in college lacrosse last year, multiple all Americans, numerous D1 committed players in the 2023 and 2024 class all came from and played in NVYLL teams and you think there are not future Elite players?
The problem is that too many parents are worrying about HOCO league results and middle school tournaments and not staying with and building a solid team. VLC used to start at 7th grade and had one team that was tough to make and brought the best of the best. The problem is all of the clubs are robbing NVYLL and for the first time ever participation in rec lacrosse is down. These club teams are all suffering from not supporting rec lacrosse and it is a snake eating it's own head.
Anonymous wrote:I had to take my sons off VLC because it was run so poorly. It should be a great club because there’s a ton of “good but not elite”players in nova and they need a team. I think it’s probably too late for VLC with True stealing their market share but here is how I would turn it around if I were in charge.
1. Fields. Why does true practice at Bishop O’Connell and Meridian high school with nice turf field and lights and Vlc practice is a barron and camron Park and Cav’ feild. This is a killer in early spring with practices being cancelled because of wet fields and lack of light.
2. Communications. We could not discuss practice times and locations with the Club. We had practices where less than half of the kids could attend.
3. Appropriate competition. The VLC youth teams are not (with some exceptions) elite and we were forced to go to tournaments where we were playing top level teams. One or two reach tournaments are a great idea but when your team is getting killed weekend after weekend it is a morale killer. Again we tried to discuss with the club and we’re basically told to deal with it.
4. Coaches. The quality of the coaching was inconsistent with a few great coaches but mostly mediocre at best coaching. Again parents approached the club and were told to deal.
5. Tryouts. Tryouts were poorly run with very little actual evaluation and some head scratching decisions.
There is a place for VLC in Virginia. But it needs to improve if it’s going to compete at the youth level.
Anonymous wrote:I had to take my sons off VLC because it was run so poorly. It should be a great club because there’s a ton of “good but not elite”players in nova and they need a team. I think it’s probably too late for VLC with True stealing their market share but here is how I would turn it around if I were in charge.
1. Fields. Why does true practice at Bishop O’Connell and Meridian high school with nice turf field and lights and Vlc practice is a barron and camron Park and Cav’ feild. This is a killer in early spring with practices being cancelled because of wet fields and lack of light.
2. Communications. We could not discuss practice times and locations with the Club. We had practices where less than half of the kids could attend.
3. Appropriate competition. The VLC youth teams are not (with some exceptions) elite and we were forced to go to tournaments where we were playing top level teams. One or two reach tournaments are a great idea but when your team is getting killed weekend after weekend it is a morale killer. Again we tried to discuss with the club and we’re basically told to deal with it.
4. Coaches. The quality of the coaching was inconsistent with a few great coaches but mostly mediocre at best coaching. Again parents approached the club and were told to deal.
5. Tryouts. Tryouts were poorly run with very little actual evaluation and some head scratching decisions.
There is a place for VLC in Virginia. But it needs to improve if it’s going to compete at the youth level.
Anonymous wrote:Well, VLC can’t make it work now because it’s all run by Cavs and the old VLC is gone. VLC today is Cavs under the new name. Yes, not everyone in VA wants to commute to MD for DCE or NL. Or be a part of Madlax. It’s too bad because VLC used to have a nice niche in VA with great boys. Lesson there is VLC should have been more proactive with their current families and attracting future families.
Anonymous wrote:For a club that one person thinks no one gives a S*&T about there are 136K views and 2K posts. Had two play for VLC. The team was always competitive and played with and sometimes beat the best teams in the country with many kids each year going to top D1 programs. The alumni record speaks for itself. While DCE, NL, and Madlax are all really good clubs, I never thought to move. One the drive is not worth it with VLC in the back yard. VLC kids were always more blue collar. More public school kids with some private school but had a humble attitude. Many did not want the culture of a Madlax. If you can play it does not matter which club you play for you can get recruited if that is the goal. It seems like the newer parents or families from CAV must be a different culture. Old VLC would turn away a toxic family. The formula worked they should stick with what works.
Anonymous wrote:For a club that one person thinks no one gives a S*&T about there are 136K views and 2K posts. Had two play for VLC. The team was always competitive and played with and sometimes beat the best teams in the country with many kids each year going to top D1 programs. The alumni record speaks for itself. While DCE, NL, and Madlax are all really good clubs, I never thought to move. One the drive is not worth it with VLC in the back yard. VLC kids were always more blue collar. More public school kids with some private school but had a humble attitude. Many did not want the culture of a Madlax. If you can play it does not matter which club you play for you can get recruited if that is the goal. It seems like the newer parents or families from CAV must be a different culture. Old VLC would turn away a toxic family. The formula worked they should stick with what works.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For a club that one person thinks no one gives a S*&T about there are 136K views and 2K posts. Had two play for VLC. The team was always competitive and played with and sometimes beat the best teams in the country with many kids each year going to top D1 programs. The alumni record speaks for itself. While DCE, NL, and Madlax are all really good clubs, I never thought to move. One the drive is not worth it with VLC in the back yard. VLC kids were always more blue collar. More public school kids with some private school but had a humble attitude. Many did not want the culture of a Madlax. If you can play it does not matter which club you play for you can get recruited if that is the goal. It seems like the newer parents or families from CAV must be a different culture. Old VLC would turn away a toxic family. The formula worked they should stick with what works.
This was the culture it used to be and it was amazing! You hit the nail on the head with the CAV culture changing it. They do not have a 2027 team and the 2028 and 2029 teams are having issues also with "new" management. So this is not the same VLC team.....
What is funny is the new management is the CAVs management and most of the 28/29 teams are composed mostly of CAVs players and parents.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For a club that one person thinks no one gives a S*&T about there are 136K views and 2K posts. Had two play for VLC. The team was always competitive and played with and sometimes beat the best teams in the country with many kids each year going to top D1 programs. The alumni record speaks for itself. While DCE, NL, and Madlax are all really good clubs, I never thought to move. One the drive is not worth it with VLC in the back yard. VLC kids were always more blue collar. More public school kids with some private school but had a humble attitude. Many did not want the culture of a Madlax. If you can play it does not matter which club you play for you can get recruited if that is the goal. It seems like the newer parents or families from CAV must be a different culture. Old VLC would turn away a toxic family. The formula worked they should stick with what works.
This was the culture it used to be and it was amazing! You hit the nail on the head with the CAV culture changing it. They do not have a 2027 team and the 2028 and 2029 teams are having issues also with "new" management. So this is not the same VLC team.....