Anonymous
08/21/2021 16:51
Subject: This is going to be bad…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish people would atop posting Missouri, Louisiana, Florida and Texas news bits. We have different community conditions with high numbers of vaccinated and school mask mandates.
Does Virginia work for you? See above.
Oh no!!! (...but they're back open on Monday after hundreds of teachers tested clean).
Good. I am trying to stay positive for next week but I am so scared everything is going to be shredded at a moment’s notice and I am going to have to rethink my courses and lesson plans and use the brand new applications FCPS bought to teach virtually.
I think I was naive to think covid was dying out, that school would be “normal” in the fall. The world has changed fundamentally and irrevocably and I am fairly certain that teaching for the next ten years is going to rely heavily on digital tools that accommodate virtual learning even if there are a good many of us who would like education to be all about face to face interactions and in-person communities.
Denial is a powerful weapon against the trauma of realization, but I suppose I need to face our changing reality rather than believe I can wish them away. I am going to have to be smarter and stronger and more flexible if I want to continue to be employed as a teacher.
The fall will be bumpy, but Delta is not a permanent wave. I read an article that there was speculation that it was already past peaking in some NE regions. There is nothing written in stone that each new variant will out-do the last. Doomists cite Lambda, but it was first identified 10 months ago and only has 1300 identified cases in the US total. We just need to clear the Delta wave and then get kids vaccinated. It’ll start evening out soon.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 16:50
Subject: This is going to be bad…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish people would atop posting Missouri, Louisiana, Florida and Texas news bits. We have different community conditions with high numbers of vaccinated and school mask mandates.
Does Virginia work for you? See above.
Oh no!!! (...but they're back open on Monday after hundreds of teachers tested clean).
Good. I am trying to stay positive for next week but I am so scared everything is going to be shredded at a moment’s notice and I am going to have to rethink my courses and lesson plans and use the brand new applications FCPS bought to teach virtually.
I think I was naive to think covid was dying out, that school would be “normal” in the fall. The world has changed fundamentally and irrevocably and I am fairly certain that teaching for the next ten years is going to rely heavily on digital tools that accommodate virtual learning even if there are a good many of us who would like education to be all about face to face interactions and in-person communities.
Denial is a powerful weapon against the trauma of realization, but I suppose I need to face our changing reality rather than believe I can wish them away. I am going to have to be smarter and stronger and more flexible if I want to continue to be employed as a teacher.
It is wrong to say you are scared. You are quite honestly giddy for it to happen. Been digging up links all day to prove yourself right. You want schools to close so you can come tell the internet all your fearmongering was accurate.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 16:41
Subject: This is going to be bad…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. I really don’t think it’s going to be bad HERE. We have masks and many vaccinated adults. We just have to make it to when 5-11 can get the vaccine which shouldn’t be too long. It’s really going to be fine. Staff are confident at my school that some kids may quarantine here and there but outbreaks and true spread in school will be minimal. When kids quarantined in spring it was always because someone at home had tested + but rarely did the kids themselves test +.
I hope you are correct.
However you are wrong to compare with last year. Delta is 225% more transmissible.
Yeah I understand that but again, we have a full mask mandate and vaccinated adults so it’s less likely our kids will come in having been exposed at home. I do not think it’s going to be some doomsday scenario and I don’t think we will close schools again.
You realize vaccinated individuals can transmit Covid to unvacced? So yes — they could get it at home and even if they don’t over a million school-age kids all congregating together will definitely transmit it. Half of the school-age population is unvaccinated and rushing into the buildings is only going to make a fall lockdown inevitable rather than potential.
A lockdown isn’t coming. You going to be disappointed when your doomsday prediction doesn’t come true and DL for all doesn’t happen?
+1. Two things.
First, we aren’t Mississippi, which has what, a 37% vaxx rate and no one wearing a mask? We literally have twice the vaxx rate, even among ages 12-18. Plus mandatory masking. Plus an ever increasing number of indoor places you cannot access without a vaccine. Comparing us to KS on COVId mitigation is apples to oranges.
Two, you are misrepresenting the article. It says that if you are vaxxed AND GET COVID you can be fined or jailed if you don’t quarantine. Vaxxed people with COVID have always been supposed to quarantine. They just weren’t in MS, and now the law has some teeth. It does not say there is a lockdown.
You know what we are though? Virginia. I await with eagerness you picking this apart and then the rising cases next week and the schools announcing immediately closures in September.
The 'OMG how could this happen?!' when we've literally been living this exact scenario for 18 months is just incredible.
It takes a special brand of a@@hole to root for kids to get COVID and against kids getting in person school— in many cases for the first time in 1.5 years. So congrats on the having no soul thing.
Also ROVA =/= NOVA. No one knows what will happen until we try. But, we’ve waited 1.5 years. At some point, we have to try.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 16:36
Subject: This is going to be bad…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish people would atop posting Missouri, Louisiana, Florida and Texas news bits. We have different community conditions with high numbers of vaccinated and school mask mandates.
Does Virginia work for you? See above.
Oh no!!! (...but they're back open on Monday after hundreds of teachers tested clean).
Good. I am trying to stay positive for next week but I am so scared everything is going to be shredded at a moment’s notice and I am going to have to rethink my courses and lesson plans and use the brand new applications FCPS bought to teach virtually.
I think I was naive to think covid was dying out, that school would be “normal” in the fall. The world has changed fundamentally and irrevocably and I am fairly certain that teaching for the next ten years is going to rely heavily on digital tools that accommodate virtual learning even if there are a good many of us who would like education to be all about face to face interactions and in-person communities.
Denial is a powerful weapon against the trauma of realization, but I suppose I need to face our changing reality rather than believe I can wish them away. I am going to have to be smarter and stronger and more flexible if I want to continue to be employed as a teacher.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 16:29
Subject: This is going to be bad…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish people would atop posting Missouri, Louisiana, Florida and Texas news bits. We have different community conditions with high numbers of vaccinated and school mask mandates.
Does Virginia work for you? See above.
No, NOVA and parts of ROVA are not remotely the same. Some areas of VA have more in common with Mississippi than the DMV.
Right. Hopewells vaccination rates are more like Mississippi than Fairfax.
That said, Fairfax’s tolerance for staying open if there are cases is a lot lower than Hopewell or Mississippi.
There will be cases. Will FCPS fold? At a school or county wide level? Unknown
The difference between this year and last year is that in-person is the standard. So if they shut down, it would inherently be temporary. Are you saying that they'd shut down until spring and go back to the hybrid nonsense in spring like last year? That just won't happen. The noise of protest (teachers and parents) would be extraordinary this time.
Of course not. The point is there will be intermittent shutdowns (whether that's a day or two weeks) continuously through winter (especially as cold/flu season rolls in) and especially until vaccination rates rise from 0% in the under-12s to something approaching 50%. As long as the kids aren't vaccinated even the vaccinated teachers will have to go virtual just to ensure their entire classrooms aren't infected.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 16:24
Subject: This is going to be bad…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish people would atop posting Missouri, Louisiana, Florida and Texas news bits. We have different community conditions with high numbers of vaccinated and school mask mandates.
Does Virginia work for you? See above.
No, NOVA and parts of ROVA are not remotely the same. Some areas of VA have more in common with Mississippi than the DMV.
Right. Hopewells vaccination rates are more like Mississippi than Fairfax.
That said, Fairfax’s tolerance for staying open if there are cases is a lot lower than Hopewell or Mississippi.
There will be cases. Will FCPS fold? At a school or county wide level? Unknown
The difference between this year and last year is that in-person is the standard. So if they shut down, it would inherently be temporary. Are you saying that they'd shut down until spring and go back to the hybrid nonsense in spring like last year? That just won't happen. The noise of protest (teachers and parents) would be extraordinary this time.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 16:21
Subject: This is going to be bad…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish people would atop posting Missouri, Louisiana, Florida and Texas news bits. We have different community conditions with high numbers of vaccinated and school mask mandates.
Does Virginia work for you? See above.
No, NOVA and parts of ROVA are not remotely the same. Some areas of VA have more in common with Mississippi than the DMV.
Right. Hopewells vaccination rates are more like Mississippi than Fairfax.
That said, Fairfax’s tolerance for staying open if there are cases is a lot lower than Hopewell or Mississippi.
There will be cases. Will FCPS fold? At a school or county wide level? Unknown
This is it.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 16:19
Subject: This is going to be bad…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish people would atop posting Missouri, Louisiana, Florida and Texas news bits. We have different community conditions with high numbers of vaccinated and school mask mandates.
Does Virginia work for you? See above.
No, NOVA and parts of ROVA are not remotely the same. Some areas of VA have more in common with Mississippi than the DMV.
Right. Hopewells vaccination rates are more like Mississippi than Fairfax.
That said, Fairfax’s tolerance for staying open if there are cases is a lot lower than Hopewell or Mississippi.
There will be cases. Will FCPS fold? At a school or county wide level? Unknown
Anonymous
08/21/2021 16:17
Subject: This is going to be bad…
Anonymous wrote:
You know what we are though? Virginia. I await with eagerness you picking this apart and then the rising cases next week and the schools announcing immediately closures in September.
The 'OMG how could this happen?!' when we've literally been living this exact scenario for 18 months is just incredible.
You think the district is going to close in September? No, not going to happen.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 16:15
Subject: This is going to be bad…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish people would atop posting Missouri, Louisiana, Florida and Texas news bits. We have different community conditions with high numbers of vaccinated and school mask mandates.
Does Virginia work for you? See above.
Oh no!!! (...but they're back open on Monday after hundreds of teachers tested clean).
Anonymous
08/21/2021 16:15
Subject: This is going to be bad…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish people would atop posting Missouri, Louisiana, Florida and Texas news bits. We have different community conditions with high numbers of vaccinated and school mask mandates.
Does Virginia work for you? See above.
No, NOVA and parts of ROVA are not remotely the same. Some areas of VA have more in common with Mississippi than the DMV.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 16:13
Subject: This is going to be bad…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. I really don’t think it’s going to be bad HERE. We have masks and many vaccinated adults. We just have to make it to when 5-11 can get the vaccine which shouldn’t be too long. It’s really going to be fine. Staff are confident at my school that some kids may quarantine here and there but outbreaks and true spread in school will be minimal. When kids quarantined in spring it was always because someone at home had tested + but rarely did the kids themselves test +.
I hope you are correct.
However you are wrong to compare with last year. Delta is 225% more transmissible.
Yeah I understand that but again, we have a full mask mandate and vaccinated adults so it’s less likely our kids will come in having been exposed at home. I do not think it’s going to be some doomsday scenario and I don’t think we will close schools again.
Alright.
What is the vaxx rate of Hopewell County? Did their school system have a mask mandate?
Anonymous
08/21/2021 16:13
Subject: This is going to be bad…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. I really don’t think it’s going to be bad HERE. We have masks and many vaccinated adults. We just have to make it to when 5-11 can get the vaccine which shouldn’t be too long. It’s really going to be fine. Staff are confident at my school that some kids may quarantine here and there but outbreaks and true spread in school will be minimal. When kids quarantined in spring it was always because someone at home had tested + but rarely did the kids themselves test +.
I hope you are correct.
However you are wrong to compare with last year. Delta is 225% more transmissible.
Yeah I understand that but again, we have a full mask mandate and vaccinated adults so it’s less likely our kids will come in having been exposed at home. I do not think it’s going to be some doomsday scenario and I don’t think we will close schools again.
You realize vaccinated individuals can transmit Covid to unvacced? So yes — they could get it at home and even if they don’t over a million school-age kids all congregating together will definitely transmit it. Half of the school-age population is unvaccinated and rushing into the buildings is only going to make a fall lockdown inevitable rather than potential.
A lockdown isn’t coming. You going to be disappointed when your doomsday prediction doesn’t come true and DL for all doesn’t happen?
+1. Two things.
First, we aren’t Mississippi, which has what, a 37% vaxx rate and no one wearing a mask? We literally have twice the vaxx rate, even among ages 12-18. Plus mandatory masking. Plus an ever increasing number of indoor places you cannot access without a vaccine. Comparing us to KS on COVId mitigation is apples to oranges.
Two, you are misrepresenting the article. It says that if you are vaxxed AND GET COVID you can be fined or jailed if you don’t quarantine. Vaxxed people with COVID have always been supposed to quarantine. They just weren’t in MS, and now the law has some teeth. It does not say there is a lockdown.
You know what we are though? Virginia. I await with eagerness you picking this apart and then the rising cases next week and the schools announcing immediately closures in September.
The 'OMG how could this happen?!' when we've literally been living this exact scenario for 18 months is just incredible.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 16:09
Subject: This is going to be bad…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. I really don’t think it’s going to be bad HERE. We have masks and many vaccinated adults. We just have to make it to when 5-11 can get the vaccine which shouldn’t be too long. It’s really going to be fine. Staff are confident at my school that some kids may quarantine here and there but outbreaks and true spread in school will be minimal. When kids quarantined in spring it was always because someone at home had tested + but rarely did the kids themselves test +.
I hope you are correct.
However you are wrong to compare with last year. Delta is 225% more transmissible.
Yeah I understand that but again, we have a full mask mandate and vaccinated adults so it’s less likely our kids will come in having been exposed at home. I do not think it’s going to be some doomsday scenario and I don’t think we will close schools again.
You realize vaccinated individuals can transmit Covid to unvacced? So yes — they could get it at home and even if they don’t over a million school-age kids all congregating together will definitely transmit it. Half of the school-age population is unvaccinated and rushing into the buildings is only going to make a fall lockdown inevitable rather than potential.
A lockdown isn’t coming. You going to be disappointed when your doomsday prediction doesn’t come true and DL for all doesn’t happen?
+1. Two things.
First, we aren’t Mississippi, which has what, a 37% vaxx rate and no one wearing a mask? We literally have twice the vaxx rate, even among ages 12-18. Plus mandatory masking. Plus an ever increasing number of indoor places you cannot access without a vaccine. Comparing us to KS on COVId mitigation is apples to oranges.
Two, you are misrepresenting the article. It says that if you are vaxxed AND GET COVID you can be fined or jailed if you don’t quarantine. Vaxxed people with COVID have always been supposed to quarantine. They just weren’t in MS, and now the law has some teeth. It does not say there is a lockdown.
Anonymous
08/21/2021 16:01
Subject: This is going to be bad…
Anonymous wrote:I wish people would atop posting Missouri, Louisiana, Florida and Texas news bits. We have different community conditions with high numbers of vaccinated and school mask mandates.
Does Virginia work for you? See above.