Anonymous
07/08/2021 12:49
Subject: Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to make Tufts appear to be a better school than it is. It’s odd and makes Tufts people just seem deeply insecure.
What does that mean, "better than it is?" This is such an odd discussion. Better than it is based on USNWR ratings? Better than it is based on what criteria?
Better than it is by denigrating other schools in its peer group and saying things like "it's just below the Ivies".
I’m now convinced that this ignorant poster intent on denigrating Tufts and promoting ridiculously incomparable schools is someone who either has a child who did not get into Tufts or a rival or ex whose child is going to Tufts — or some other agenda. Why else waste so much time and effort on this.
What on earth? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Why are schools like USC, NYU, Emory, and BC "ridiculously incomparable schools"? I'm not promoting them. YOU are the one that keeps insisting that Tufts is better than all those schools and more. Get a hold of reality.
For the record, I have zero affiliation with any of the aforementioned schools, and none of my kids even applied to Tufts. I just think the naked boosterism here is embarrassing for you all and worth calling out.
dp. +1. Tufts boosters have a weird chip on their shoulder. They're not nearly as good as they think they are, and should feel confident about how they're rated by most people. Schools like NYU, Emory, Tulane, and BC are absolutely their peers.
ive read through this thread and find the assertion that there are Tufts boosters denigrating other schools odd. My take away from the thread is there are families who choose Tufts for a variety of reasons and are happy with their choice. The thread does not read that Tufts fan’s are trying to make Tufts anymore than the solid school that it is - but it does read that there are folks choosing to participate in this dialogue and speak ill of Tufts for the sake of it. Says way more about the others than it does about the “Tufts boosters.” As is sometimes/often the case with controversial DCUM posts made worse by the anonymous nature of the forum, motivations for participating are illusory at best and strange at worst….
Agreed.
There’s also something subtler going on here. There are the official rankings that list the common knowledge top schools, like the Ivys and the schools that appeal to people in China, and then there’s a more unspoken ranking that comes from a network of elite private schools and people who work in academics. There’s no way to quantify why colleges are on that list. That’s why places like Tufts, Wesleyan University, Vassar, Swarthmore, Haverford etc. might not be high on the USNews rankings but are still competitive among certain groups of people. That’s a different group than those who might see Emory and Tulane as desirable or BC and Northeastern or any other grouping. It’s cultural. So arguing about Tufts versus Emory or Haverford versus BC doesn’t make sense.
Tufts is promoted by elite private school parents because not all their students can get into the Ivy League or other elite schools. These parents want to equate that their students are going to an elite institution (not just a very fine institution that is below elite status). By the way, I would be very proud, if my student were to attend Tufts! But I may be slightly prouder, if they were attending HYPSM.
Also, among the international crowd NYU is held in very high esteem far above a Tufts. No slight at Tufts. Just a reality.
Anonymous
07/08/2021 12:31
Subject: Tufts
Anonymous wrote:My child graduated from Tufts in engineering. Tufts is a leader in recruiting women into engineering, with close to 50%. This greatly appealed to my daughter. She was put off by MIT’s cut throat nature, and decided she could apply to grad school there if she wanted. I’d prefer to see her at a school with more socio-economic diversity, which you really don’t see there. We both liked that is has a strong liberal arts program in addition to the sciences.
Congratulations for your daughter! Graduating in engineering from any school is a laudable achievement in my opinion. FWIW, Upenn is a/the leader in recruiting women in engineering with a very strong liberal arts program in addition to the sciences. Of course, MIT is the top brand worldwide in engineering but is not the right fit for everybody. Some might prefer a less intense environment.
Anonymous
07/08/2021 12:25
Subject: Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to make Tufts appear to be a better school than it is. It’s odd and makes Tufts people just seem deeply insecure.
What does that mean, "better than it is?" This is such an odd discussion. Better than it is based on USNWR ratings? Better than it is based on what criteria?
Better than it is by denigrating other schools in its peer group and saying things like "it's just below the Ivies".
I’m now convinced that this ignorant poster intent on denigrating Tufts and promoting ridiculously incomparable schools is someone who either has a child who did not get into Tufts or a rival or ex whose child is going to Tufts — or some other agenda. Why else waste so much time and effort on this.
What on earth? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Why are schools like USC, NYU, Emory, and BC "ridiculously incomparable schools"? I'm not promoting them. YOU are the one that keeps insisting that Tufts is better than all those schools and more. Get a hold of reality.
For the record, I have zero affiliation with any of the aforementioned schools, and none of my kids even applied to Tufts. I just think the naked boosterism here is embarrassing for you all and worth calling out.
dp. +1. Tufts boosters have a weird chip on their shoulder. They're not nearly as good as they think they are, and should feel confident about how they're rated by most people. Schools like NYU, Emory, Tulane, and BC are absolutely their peers.
ive read through this thread and find the assertion that there are Tufts boosters denigrating other schools odd. My take away from the thread is there are families who choose Tufts for a variety of reasons and are happy with their choice. The thread does not read that Tufts fan’s are trying to make Tufts anymore than the solid school that it is - but it does read that there are folks choosing to participate in this dialogue and speak ill of Tufts for the sake of it. Says way more about the others than it does about the “Tufts boosters.” As is sometimes/often the case with controversial DCUM posts made worse by the anonymous nature of the forum, motivations for participating are illusory at best and strange at worst….
Agreed.
There’s also something subtler going on here. There are the official rankings that list the common knowledge top schools, like the Ivys and the schools that appeal to people in China, and then there’s a more unspoken ranking that comes from a network of elite private schools and people who work in academics. There’s no way to quantify why colleges are on that list. That’s why places like Tufts, Wesleyan University, Vassar, Swarthmore, Haverford etc. might not be high on the USNews rankings but are still competitive among certain groups of people. That’s a different group than those who might see Emory and Tulane as desirable or BC and Northeastern or any other grouping. It’s cultural. So arguing about Tufts versus Emory or Haverford versus BC doesn’t make sense.
As an independent school parent of graduates over multiple years, I think that the so-called culture list is waning. Most students for those sort of schools now comef= from public schools. Counselors at independent schhols today do not rank schools like Vassar or Wesleyan as high as they did 6 years ago. Also, those schools seems to have been missed the astromonical increase in applications that many other schools experienced.
Anonymous
07/08/2021 11:19
Subject: Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to make Tufts appear to be a better school than it is. It’s odd and makes Tufts people just seem deeply insecure.
What does that mean, "better than it is?" This is such an odd discussion. Better than it is based on USNWR ratings? Better than it is based on what criteria?
Better than it is by denigrating other schools in its peer group and saying things like "it's just below the Ivies".
I’m now convinced that this ignorant poster intent on denigrating Tufts and promoting ridiculously incomparable schools is someone who either has a child who did not get into Tufts or a rival or ex whose child is going to Tufts — or some other agenda. Why else waste so much time and effort on this.
What on earth? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Why are schools like USC, NYU, Emory, and BC "ridiculously incomparable schools"? I'm not promoting them. YOU are the one that keeps insisting that Tufts is better than all those schools and more. Get a hold of reality.
For the record, I have zero affiliation with any of the aforementioned schools, and none of my kids even applied to Tufts. I just think the naked boosterism here is embarrassing for you all and worth calling out.
dp. +1. Tufts boosters have a weird chip on their shoulder. They're not nearly as good as they think they are, and should feel confident about how they're rated by most people. Schools like NYU, Emory, Tulane, and BC are absolutely their peers.
ive read through this thread and find the assertion that there are Tufts boosters denigrating other schools odd. My take away from the thread is there are families who choose Tufts for a variety of reasons and are happy with their choice. The thread does not read that Tufts fan’s are trying to make Tufts anymore than the solid school that it is - but it does read that there are folks choosing to participate in this dialogue and speak ill of Tufts for the sake of it. Says way more about the others than it does about the “Tufts boosters.” As is sometimes/often the case with controversial DCUM posts made worse by the anonymous nature of the forum, motivations for participating are illusory at best and strange at worst….
Agreed.
There’s also something subtler going on here. There are the official rankings that list the common knowledge top schools, like the Ivys and the schools that appeal to people in China, and then there’s a more unspoken ranking that comes from a network of elite private schools and people who work in academics. There’s no way to quantify why colleges are on that list. That’s why places like Tufts, Wesleyan University, Vassar, Swarthmore, Haverford etc. might not be high on the USNews rankings but are still competitive among certain groups of people. That’s a different group than those who might see Emory and Tulane as desirable or BC and Northeastern or any other grouping. It’s cultural. So arguing about Tufts versus Emory or Haverford versus BC doesn’t make sense.
Anonymous
07/08/2021 07:47
Subject: Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to make Tufts appear to be a better school than it is. It’s odd and makes Tufts people just seem deeply insecure.
What does that mean, "better than it is?" This is such an odd discussion. Better than it is based on USNWR ratings? Better than it is based on what criteria?
Better than it is by denigrating other schools in its peer group and saying things like "it's just below the Ivies".
I’m now convinced that this ignorant poster intent on denigrating Tufts and promoting ridiculously incomparable schools is someone who either has a child who did not get into Tufts or a rival or ex whose child is going to Tufts — or some other agenda. Why else waste so much time and effort on this.
What on earth? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Why are schools like USC, NYU, Emory, and BC "ridiculously incomparable schools"? I'm not promoting them. YOU are the one that keeps insisting that Tufts is better than all those schools and more. Get a hold of reality.
For the record, I have zero affiliation with any of the aforementioned schools, and none of my kids even applied to Tufts. I just think the naked boosterism here is embarrassing for you all and worth calling out.
dp. +1. Tufts boosters have a weird chip on their shoulder. They're not nearly as good as they think they are, and should feel confident about how they're rated by most people. Schools like NYU, Emory, Tulane, and BC are absolutely their peers.
ive read through this thread and find the assertion that there are Tufts boosters denigrating other schools odd. My take away from the thread is there are families who choose Tufts for a variety of reasons and are happy with their choice. The thread does not read that Tufts fan’s are trying to make Tufts anymore than the solid school that it is - but it does read that there are folks choosing to participate in this dialogue and speak ill of Tufts for the sake of it. Says way more about the others than it does about the “Tufts boosters.” As is sometimes/often the case with controversial DCUM posts made worse by the anonymous nature of the forum, motivations for participating are illusory at best and strange at worst….
Anonymous
07/07/2021 21:29
Subject: Tufts
Anonymous wrote:It's really splitting hairs with many of these schools academically overall. Thus it comes down to specific programs, culture, location, etc.
No one is going to look at, say, Tufts vs. Emory and say, "Obviously we should snap up the Emory grad."
They probably would prefer the Emory grad if it's finance or consulting.
Anonymous
07/07/2021 16:52
Subject: Tufts
My child graduated from Tufts in engineering. Tufts is a leader in recruiting women into engineering, with close to 50%. This greatly appealed to my daughter. She was put off by MIT’s cut throat nature, and decided she could apply to grad school there if she wanted. I’d prefer to see her at a school with more socio-economic diversity, which you really don’t see there. We both liked that is has a strong liberal arts program in addition to the sciences.
Anonymous
07/07/2021 16:29
Subject: Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to make Tufts appear to be a better school than it is. It’s odd and makes Tufts people just seem deeply insecure.
What does that mean, "better than it is?" This is such an odd discussion. Better than it is based on USNWR ratings? Better than it is based on what criteria?
Better than it is by denigrating other schools in its peer group and saying things like "it's just below the Ivies".
I’m now convinced that this ignorant poster intent on denigrating Tufts and promoting ridiculously incomparable schools is someone who either has a child who did not get into Tufts or a rival or ex whose child is going to Tufts — or some other agenda. Why else waste so much time and effort on this.
What on earth? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Why are schools like USC, NYU, Emory, and BC "ridiculously incomparable schools"? I'm not promoting them. YOU are the one that keeps insisting that Tufts is better than all those schools and more. Get a hold of reality.
For the record, I have zero affiliation with any of the aforementioned schools, and none of my kids even applied to Tufts. I just think the naked boosterism here is embarrassing for you all and worth calling out.
dp. +1. Tufts boosters have a weird chip on their shoulder. They're not nearly as good as they think they are, and should feel confident about how they're rated by most people. Schools like NYU, Emory, Tulane, and BC are absolutely their peers.
Anonymous
07/07/2021 12:46
Subject: Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to make Tufts appear to be a better school than it is. It’s odd and makes Tufts people just seem deeply insecure.
What does that mean, "better than it is?" This is such an odd discussion. Better than it is based on USNWR ratings? Better than it is based on what criteria?
Better than it is by denigrating other schools in its peer group and saying things like "it's just below the Ivies".
I’m now convinced that this ignorant poster intent on denigrating Tufts and promoting ridiculously incomparable schools is someone who either has a child who did not get into Tufts or a rival or ex whose child is going to Tufts — or some other agenda. Why else waste so much time and effort on this.
X10000000
Typical petulant child.
Er, seeing way more petulance from the Tufts boosters. Case in point^
Anonymous
07/07/2021 12:11
Subject: Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to make Tufts appear to be a better school than it is. It’s odd and makes Tufts people just seem deeply insecure.
What does that mean, "better than it is?" This is such an odd discussion. Better than it is based on USNWR ratings? Better than it is based on what criteria?
Better than it is by denigrating other schools in its peer group and saying things like "it's just below the Ivies".
I’m now convinced that this ignorant poster intent on denigrating Tufts and promoting ridiculously incomparable schools is someone who either has a child who did not get into Tufts or a rival or ex whose child is going to Tufts — or some other agenda. Why else waste so much time and effort on this.
X10000000
Typical petulant child.
Anonymous
07/07/2021 12:06
Subject: Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to make Tufts appear to be a better school than it is. It’s odd and makes Tufts people just seem deeply insecure.
What does that mean, "better than it is?" This is such an odd discussion. Better than it is based on USNWR ratings? Better than it is based on what criteria?
Better than it is by denigrating other schools in its peer group and saying things like "it's just below the Ivies".
I’m now convinced that this ignorant poster intent on denigrating Tufts and promoting ridiculously incomparable schools is someone who either has a child who did not get into Tufts or a rival or ex whose child is going to Tufts — or some other agenda. Why else waste so much time and effort on this.
What on earth? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Why are schools like USC, NYU, Emory, and BC "ridiculously incomparable schools"? I'm not promoting them. YOU are the one that keeps insisting that Tufts is better than all those schools and more. Get a hold of reality.
For the record, I have zero affiliation with any of the aforementioned schools, and none of my kids even applied to Tufts. I just think the naked boosterism here is embarrassing for you all and worth calling out.
Actually I feel like all those aforementioned schools are definitely more prestigious than Tufts, especially nationwide. With the exception of BC and NYU (tied), they're ranked above Tufts, too.
Anonymous
07/07/2021 11:58
Subject: Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to make Tufts appear to be a better school than it is. It’s odd and makes Tufts people just seem deeply insecure.
What does that mean, "better than it is?" This is such an odd discussion. Better than it is based on USNWR ratings? Better than it is based on what criteria?
Better than it is by denigrating other schools in its peer group and saying things like "it's just below the Ivies".
I’m now convinced that this ignorant poster intent on denigrating Tufts and promoting ridiculously incomparable schools is someone who either has a child who did not get into Tufts or a rival or ex whose child is going to Tufts — or some other agenda. Why else waste so much time and effort on this.
What on earth? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Why are schools like USC, NYU, Emory, and BC "ridiculously incomparable schools"? I'm not promoting them. YOU are the one that keeps insisting that Tufts is better than all those schools and more. Get a hold of reality.
For the record, I have zero affiliation with any of the aforementioned schools, and none of my kids even applied to Tufts. I just think the naked boosterism here is embarrassing for you all and worth calling out.
Anonymous
07/07/2021 11:55
Subject: Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to make Tufts appear to be a better school than it is. It’s odd and makes Tufts people just seem deeply insecure.
What does that mean, "better than it is?" This is such an odd discussion. Better than it is based on USNWR ratings? Better than it is based on what criteria?
Better than it is by denigrating other schools in its peer group and saying things like "it's just below the Ivies".
I’m now convinced that this ignorant poster intent on denigrating Tufts and promoting ridiculously incomparable schools is someone who either has a child who did not get into Tufts or a rival or ex whose child is going to Tufts — or some other agenda. Why else waste so much time and effort on this.
Anonymous
07/07/2021 11:19
Subject: Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to make Tufts appear to be a better school than it is. It’s odd and makes Tufts people just seem deeply insecure.
What does that mean, "better than it is?" This is such an odd discussion. Better than it is based on USNWR ratings? Better than it is based on what criteria?
Better than it is by denigrating other schools in its peer group and saying things like "it's just below the Ivies".
Anonymous
07/07/2021 10:58
Subject: Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to make Tufts appear to be a better school than it is. It’s odd and makes Tufts people just seem deeply insecure.
What does that mean, "better than it is?" This is such an odd discussion. Better than it is based on USNWR ratings? Better than it is based on what criteria?