Anonymous
07/15/2021 14:17
Subject: Re:Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:and, the opportunity for your kid to play at the college level.
With Pride recently offering a high school program and the 2023s really being their first group to compete with CLC for talent it is too early to make any comments on Pride's ability (or not) to get players recruited and how this compares to CLC.
Who knows what is posted on this board is true, but assuming what one poster presented is accurate and six 2025 Pride players are leaving for CLC, KMG should be jumping on this quickly to understand why. We know some on this board will say the answer is her. Important thing is to find out why and address the issue(s) head on. Especially given that Pride will have clearly developed good players that another club actively pursued; and in line with another poster the 2023 and 2024 teams are viewed as equal to their CLC counterparts in terms of talent and play. Too early to judge recruitment right now, but will have this answer soon.
The KMG factor is real. The AS 22 team had a lot of girls either not tryout or turn down roster spots once it was known that KMG was coaching the 22 AS team. That is nothing to do with Pride vs Capital but a real issue out there.
The Pride girls were in full attendance at the Capital pre tryout clinics just fyi.
KMG may be a jerk, but the results speak for themselves. Over the course of the past few years I watched as my kids team initially beat Pride, then was evenly matched, then Pride surpassed and consistently whooped our team by a lot. It wasn't a fluke - this looks to be true of Pride at all ages across the board. I don't know if it is coaching, training, or player recruiting, but something is going right at Pride. She may be a witch as people on this message board are saying, but she is proven to be highly effective in terms of team development and getting the best out of her players. You have to be impressed that she has quickly built a winning club at all age levels. It would seem like serious players would value that over warm fuzzy feelings.
Other than the recent win with the 26 team, not sure what you "define" as success per say for the Pride teams. They still aren't beating the top MD clubs, didn't win any of the age divisions in NGLL and the HS teams are faring about the same as the Capital teams. I guess if you call that success then so be it, to each their own. Serious players value strong coaching and player development and then yes, success, but at what expense? The craziness only goes so far. The 25 team seems to have had some strong players but definitely has to show the issues if they all left for a club that most on here say isn't as "good".
Success is relative. Yes Pride struggles to beat Hero's and M&D, but they are more successful vs the next tier (Skywalkers, MDUnited etc.) But who doesn't struggle vs those two teams? For the DMV area, Pride normally has the greatest level of success vs. the MD teams. They did not win a NGLL league, but had 3 teams in the semi's which is more than any other club outside of Hero's and M&D. It is troublesome to see them losing so many 2025's given their success. Assuming DC Urban is correct. Which I assume is always the case.
Anonymous
07/15/2021 14:02
Subject: Re:Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is any of this really new? Seems like CLC has been doing this for years where they know who they want on their teams and communicate this with players prior to tryouts. And players have seemed to know prior to tryouts where they stood. After all the wink winks and nod nods there are usually several spots open to fill the team. So, anyone going into these tryouts thinking the process is fair and believing there are 21 spots up for grabs simply hasn't been paying attention or not running with the right crowd. The bigger story is why would six 2025 Pride players on what seems to be a well-established Pride team want to move to CLC when the Pride 23/24 teams are at least equal to, if not better, than the CLC 23/24 teams. This is the question, why move?
KMG
This. 100%.
Yes 100% and not just the 25s. Parents and players are tires of the disfunction and craziness of Queen crazy.
And they think it will be better at CLC??? LOL.
Yes, Capital is better. There have been big changes made in past few years and Capital operates under a new ownership model. It’s not the same parent board-run club.
Anonymous
07/15/2021 13:05
Subject: Re:Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:and, the opportunity for your kid to play at the college level.
With Pride recently offering a high school program and the 2023s really being their first group to compete with CLC for talent it is too early to make any comments on Pride's ability (or not) to get players recruited and how this compares to CLC.
Who knows what is posted on this board is true, but assuming what one poster presented is accurate and six 2025 Pride players are leaving for CLC, KMG should be jumping on this quickly to understand why. We know some on this board will say the answer is her. Important thing is to find out why and address the issue(s) head on. Especially given that Pride will have clearly developed good players that another club actively pursued; and in line with another poster the 2023 and 2024 teams are viewed as equal to their CLC counterparts in terms of talent and play. Too early to judge recruitment right now, but will have this answer soon.
The KMG factor is real. The AS 22 team had a lot of girls either not tryout or turn down roster spots once it was known that KMG was coaching the 22 AS team. That is nothing to do with Pride vs Capital but a real issue out there.
The Pride girls were in full attendance at the Capital pre tryout clinics just fyi.
KMG may be a jerk, but the results speak for themselves. Over the course of the past few years I watched as my kids team initially beat Pride, then was evenly matched, then Pride surpassed and consistently whooped our team by a lot. It wasn't a fluke - this looks to be true of Pride at all ages across the board. I don't know if it is coaching, training, or player recruiting, but something is going right at Pride. She may be a witch as people on this message board are saying, but she is proven to be highly effective in terms of team development and getting the best out of her players. You have to be impressed that she has quickly built a winning club at all age levels. It would seem like serious players would value that over warm fuzzy feelings.
Other than the recent win with the 26 team, not sure what you "define" as success per say for the Pride teams. They still aren't beating the top MD clubs, didn't win any of the age divisions in NGLL and the HS teams are faring about the same as the Capital teams. I guess if you call that success then so be it, to each their own. Serious players value strong coaching and player development and then yes, success, but at what expense? The craziness only goes so far. The 25 team seems to have had some strong players but definitely has to show the issues if they all left for a club that most on here say isn't as "good".
Anonymous
07/15/2021 12:58
Subject: Re:Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Is any of this really new? Seems like CLC has been doing this for years where they know who they want on their teams and communicate this with players prior to tryouts. And players have seemed to know prior to tryouts where they stood. After all the wink winks and nod nods there are usually several spots open to fill the team. So, anyone going into these tryouts thinking the process is fair and believing there are 21 spots up for grabs simply hasn't been paying attention or not running with the right crowd. The bigger story is why would six 2025 Pride players on what seems to be a well-established Pride team want to move to CLC when the Pride 23/24 teams are at least equal to, if not better, than the CLC 23/24 teams. This is the question, why move?
That's true in any good club team. Not more than 4-6 spots will be available for new girls. If clubs turn their team completely over every year, long-term they will have trouble attractive top girls.s
Anonymous
07/15/2021 12:32
Subject: Re:Girls Tryouts
Agree with the PP. The 23/24 Pride teams seem to be on at least a level playing field as the CLC teams. Looking at the MAS schedule this weekend the 23 Pride team is playing the #1 and #2 ranked teams in their age group. KMG doesn't just wake up one morning and get tournaments to agree to make this happen. Playing in the top bracket is something her team's have earned. And if CLC is so anxious to get all of the 25 Pride players to join their club this is certainly a compliment to Pride and validates their player development.
Anonymous
07/15/2021 12:20
Subject: Re:Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:and, the opportunity for your kid to play at the college level.
With Pride recently offering a high school program and the 2023s really being their first group to compete with CLC for talent it is too early to make any comments on Pride's ability (or not) to get players recruited and how this compares to CLC.
Who knows what is posted on this board is true, but assuming what one poster presented is accurate and six 2025 Pride players are leaving for CLC, KMG should be jumping on this quickly to understand why. We know some on this board will say the answer is her. Important thing is to find out why and address the issue(s) head on. Especially given that Pride will have clearly developed good players that another club actively pursued; and in line with another poster the 2023 and 2024 teams are viewed as equal to their CLC counterparts in terms of talent and play. Too early to judge recruitment right now, but will have this answer soon.
The KMG factor is real. The AS 22 team had a lot of girls either not tryout or turn down roster spots once it was known that KMG was coaching the 22 AS team. That is nothing to do with Pride vs Capital but a real issue out there.
The Pride girls were in full attendance at the Capital pre tryout clinics just fyi.
KMG may be a jerk, but the results speak for themselves. Over the course of the past few years I watched as my kids team initially beat Pride, then was evenly matched, then Pride surpassed and consistently whooped our team by a lot. It wasn't a fluke - this looks to be true of Pride at all ages across the board. I don't know if it is coaching, training, or player recruiting, but something is going right at Pride. She may be a witch as people on this message board are saying, but she is proven to be highly effective in terms of team development and getting the best out of her players. You have to be impressed that she has quickly built a winning club at all age levels. It would seem like serious players would value that over warm fuzzy feelings.
Anonymous
07/15/2021 12:17
Subject: Re:Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:The Pride girls were in full attendance at the Capital pre tryout clinics just fyi.
I would not read too much into this. Pride players have attended these for years. Not saying they won't leave, but attendance at CLC pre-tryouts has been the norm for many.
Anonymous
07/15/2021 12:15
Subject: Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All you have to do is get 3 or 4 to leave and then the rest follow due to FOMO. Then they attach themselves to a narrative. It they felt the club had serious issues…why didn’t they leave in the 6, 7 or 8th grade?
NP here and I have no affiliation with either but if CLC doesn't start till 9th maybe they thought they were in the best situation for the time being. Lots of MC Elite girls leave for CLC as well. Same question could be asked there but I would imagine that 9th grade is when people want to make the jump for the name and recruiting opportunities that come with the name.
This is a reasonable point about the name and history of recruiting. Just too early to draw any conclusions about how well Pride will place players in college. A lot of credit to the Pride 23s for staying together. Many could have easily left for CLC. Hopefully, players from both clubs get the opportunity to play in college.
Anonymous
07/15/2021 12:05
Subject: Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:All you have to do is get 3 or 4 to leave and then the rest follow due to FOMO. Then they attach themselves to a narrative. It they felt the club had serious issues…why didn’t they leave in the 6, 7 or 8th grade?
NP here and I have no affiliation with either but if CLC doesn't start till 9th maybe they thought they were in the best situation for the time being. Lots of MC Elite girls leave for CLC as well. Same question could be asked there but I would imagine that 9th grade is when people want to make the jump for the name and recruiting opportunities that come with the name.
Anonymous
07/15/2021 12:04
Subject: Re:Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:and, the opportunity for your kid to play at the college level.
With Pride recently offering a high school program and the 2023s really being their first group to compete with CLC for talent it is too early to make any comments on Pride's ability (or not) to get players recruited and how this compares to CLC.
Who knows what is posted on this board is true, but assuming what one poster presented is accurate and six 2025 Pride players are leaving for CLC, KMG should be jumping on this quickly to understand why. We know some on this board will say the answer is her. Important thing is to find out why and address the issue(s) head on. Especially given that Pride will have clearly developed good players that another club actively pursued; and in line with another poster the 2023 and 2024 teams are viewed as equal to their CLC counterparts in terms of talent and play. Too early to judge recruitment right now, but will have this answer soon.
The KMG factor is real. The AS 22 team had a lot of girls either not tryout or turn down roster spots once it was known that KMG was coaching the 22 AS team. That is nothing to do with Pride vs Capital but a real issue out there.
The Pride girls were in full attendance at the Capital pre tryout clinics just fyi.
Anonymous
07/15/2021 12:03
Subject: Girls Tryouts
All you have to do is get 3 or 4 to leave and then the rest follow due to FOMO. Then they attach themselves to a narrative. It they felt the club had serious issues…why didn’t they leave in the 6, 7 or 8th grade?
Anonymous
07/15/2021 11:51
Subject: Re:Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:and, the opportunity for your kid to play at the college level.
With Pride recently offering a high school program and the 2023s really being their first group to compete with CLC for talent it is too early to make any comments on Pride's ability (or not) to get players recruited and how this compares to CLC.
Who knows what is posted on this board is true, but assuming what one poster presented is accurate and six 2025 Pride players are leaving for CLC, KMG should be jumping on this quickly to understand why. We know some on this board will say the answer is her. Important thing is to find out why and address the issue(s) head on. Especially given that Pride will have clearly developed good players that another club actively pursued; and in line with another poster the 2023 and 2024 teams are viewed as equal to their CLC counterparts in terms of talent and play. Too early to judge recruitment right now, but will have this answer soon.
Anonymous
07/15/2021 11:28
Subject: Re:Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is any of this really new? Seems like CLC has been doing this for years where they know who they want on their teams and communicate this with players prior to tryouts. And players have seemed to know prior to tryouts where they stood. After all the wink winks and nod nods there are usually several spots open to fill the team. So, anyone going into these tryouts thinking the process is fair and believing there are 21 spots up for grabs simply hasn't been paying attention or not running with the right crowd. The bigger story is why would six 2025 Pride players on what seems to be a well-established Pride team want to move to CLC when the Pride 23/24 teams are at least equal to, if not better, than the CLC 23/24 teams. This is the question, why move?
KMG
This. 100%.
Yes 100% and not just the 25s. Parents and players are tires of the disfunction and craziness of Queen crazy.
And they think it will be better at CLC??? LOL.
Anonymous
07/15/2021 11:25
Subject: Re:Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is any of this really new? Seems like CLC has been doing this for years where they know who they want on their teams and communicate this with players prior to tryouts. And players have seemed to know prior to tryouts where they stood. After all the wink winks and nod nods there are usually several spots open to fill the team. So, anyone going into these tryouts thinking the process is fair and believing there are 21 spots up for grabs simply hasn't been paying attention or not running with the right crowd. The bigger story is why would six 2025 Pride players on what seems to be a well-established Pride team want to move to CLC when the Pride 23/24 teams are at least equal to, if not better, than the CLC 23/24 teams. This is the question, why move?
KMG
This. 100%.
Yes 100% and not just the 25s. Parents and players are tires of the disfunction and craziness of Queen crazy.
Anonymous
07/15/2021 11:16
Subject: Re:Girls Tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is any of this really new? Seems like CLC has been doing this for years where they know who they want on their teams and communicate this with players prior to tryouts. And players have seemed to know prior to tryouts where they stood. After all the wink winks and nod nods there are usually several spots open to fill the team. So, anyone going into these tryouts thinking the process is fair and believing there are 21 spots up for grabs simply hasn't been paying attention or not running with the right crowd. The bigger story is why would six 2025 Pride players on what seems to be a well-established Pride team want to move to CLC when the Pride 23/24 teams are at least equal to, if not better, than the CLC 23/24 teams. This is the question, why move?
KMG
This. 100%.