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Anonymous wrote:I have been watching various news clips about this most of the morning (cnn and msnbc) and I’m still unclear how this limits access to voting or disenfranchises anyone. It expands early voting and reinforces laws on no-excuse mail-in voting.

I am a Dem btw. I don’t care about baseball and I don’t care if Georgia is mad. I’m just trying to understand the issues with the bill. (Serious post I swear.)

Read the article by Stephen Fowler linked in the twitter thread above. He writes for Georgia Public Broadcasting and is pretty much down the middle when reporting.
And, you are right... it expands voting opportunity and provides for mail-in voting. It also codifies things they did for the first time in 2020 that worked and fixed things that didn't (like waiting to count the absentee ballots).

Sure but then it’s pencils down at 5pm the day after election. Shouldn’t the goal be to count every vote? This deadline would only affect large counties with large numbers of absentee voters. Gee I wonder which votes may not be counted under this law.

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Anonymous wrote:I have been watching various news clips about this most of the morning (cnn and msnbc) and I’m still unclear how this limits access to voting or disenfranchises anyone. It expands early voting and reinforces laws on no-excuse mail-in voting.

I am a Dem btw. I don’t care about baseball and I don’t care if Georgia is mad. I’m just trying to understand the issues with the bill. (Serious post I swear.)

Read the article by Stephen Fowler linked in the twitter thread above. He writes for Georgia Public Broadcasting and is pretty much down the middle when reporting.
And, you are right... it expands voting opportunity and provides for mail-in voting. It also codifies things they did for the first time in 2020 that worked and fixed things that didn't (like waiting to count the absentee ballots).

I read the absentee section and the bill reduces the period during which you can request an absentee ballot and return it. It also reduces drop boxes to one per 100,000 active voters (or one per voting site, whichever is smaller) and makes them accessible only when the site is open instead of 24/7. How does that expand voting? Clearly they are trying to make it more difficult to vote absentee.

I saw someone say this law is not in response to voter fraud, it’s in response to voter turnout. That’s what they are trying to suppress.

Posting the content of this thread for those who won't open it:

I keep seeing people say the GOP is going to allow take overs of county election boards in order to steal elections. If you actually read the law, you'd note that the replacement of a local elections superintendent can only come after two "general election cycles" and
each election cycle must generate 3 complaints that are verified as true by an independent review and that the local superintendent has not fixed the problems that caused those complaints and
the replacement can last no more than 9 months and the state can replace no more than four superintendents in a given a period.

The distortion is akin to people who blast Georgia for cleaning up its election rolls when the reality is the state can only remove people from the rolls if they are dead, declared incompetent, moved, guilty of a felony, or have not voted in seven years.

You'd never know any of that from the way people talk about Georgia's election laws because they have power in the lie.

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Anonymous wrote:And, don't listen to Schumer. Or Biden. Or even Stacey Abrams.

The leader of the Democratic Party and their celebrity and media supports called for boycotting the state of GA and got it!

And, the boycott is based on lies.

Shhh. This whole boycott is going to buried very quickly by the Dems and the media that called for it in the first place.

Anonymous wrote:I have been watching various news clips about this most of the morning (cnn and msnbc) and I’m still unclear how this limits access to voting or disenfranchises anyone. It expands early voting and reinforces laws on no-excuse mail-in voting.

I am a Dem btw. I don’t care about baseball and I don’t care if Georgia is mad. I’m just trying to understand the issues with the bill. (Serious post I swear.)

Read the article by Stephen Fowler linked in the twitter thread above. He writes for Georgia Public Broadcasting and is pretty much down the middle when reporting.
And, you are right... it expands voting opportunity and provides for mail-in voting. It also codifies things they did for the first time in 2020 that worked and fixed things that didn't (like waiting to count the absentee ballots).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And, don't listen to Schumer. Or Biden. Or even Stacey Abrams.

The leader of the Democratic Party and their celebrity and media supports called for boycotting the state of GA and got it!

And, the boycott is based on lies.

Anonymous wrote:And, don't listen to Schumer. Or Biden. Or even Stacey Abrams.

The leader of the Democratic Party and their celebrity and media supports called for boycotting the state of GA and got it!

I have been watching various news clips about this most of the morning (cnn and msnbc) and I’m still unclear how this limits access to voting or disenfranchises anyone. It expands early voting and reinforces laws on no-excuse mail-in voting.

I am a Dem btw. I don’t care about baseball and I don’t care if Georgia is mad. I’m just trying to understand the issues with the bill. (Serious post I swear.)

And, don't listen to Schumer. Or Biden. Or even Stacey Abrams.

Read the law. Or, at least read sources that outline what is actually IN the law.

Got real quiet in here suddenly... Talking points from the DNC not out yet?

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Anonymous wrote:Voting is a right and putting up barriers to the exercise of that right is wholly anti-American.

Then you must be utterly appalled that there are any time, place, and manner requirements at all.

No, not at all. The voting day rules are when elections and ballot collection ends.

Time, place, and manner requirements are much more comprehensive than "voting day rules" as to when elections and ballot collections end.

Why is voter registration not voter suppression?

Why are there any time, place, or calendar limitations at all for voting?

Why shouldn't there be 24/7 balloting available at any and every business (voting kiosks at grocery stores, restaurants, building lobbies) to all individuals (eliminate registration requirements) who attest they are eligible to vote? These kiosks should be made available for election season - no more of this election day voter suppression.

This may not be enough. We may need to explore vote by SMS -- American idol style -- to ensure everyone's voice is heard.

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Anonymous wrote:She manages to evade the question and be condescending at the same time. #Unity

I’d expect the Dems to quickly distance themselves from this as quickly as possible by claiming that the President’s comment were taken out of context and are not the issue, that the owners and executives of MLB are Republicans, and that when the President spoke the decision to move the All Star game had already been made for issues unrelated to the Georgia voting law and are trying to pin the rose on Democrats for that decision. Guarantee it.
Atlanta will be the site of the Democrat Convention in 2024 as a condolence though.

Biden has been wrong on every step of this issue.

Every statement he has made about it is false. Every one. And, he has even been called out by the media.

Then, he has the audacity to go on ESPN and support this move based on his damned lies. What a guy.

You are probably right - they will have the convention there. Probably being negotiated now.

Unliike Trump, Biden was parroting what he was told, not conjuring the "lies" himself. Election law is complex, and the issues with the Georgia law are nuanced. It is very hard to explain, though the Microsoft statement posted in this thread does a pretty good job of explaining it.

The fact is, the GOP did some ok things, and some really horrible things in this bill. The horrible outweighs the good, and if they really wanted to do it right, they would have at least tried to make it bi-partisan (like Biden tried with the GOP on the CoVID releif bill) - but they didn't. They literally slammed it through and then had a closed signing to get it in place. That is not open and transparent. This bill is literally Jim Crow 2.0. Either it needs to be rescinded or else the state and its businesses will suffer because no one of moral conscious wants to be assocaited with it.

Lots of Dems and the media were celebrating Biden using the bully pulpit to demand MLB remove the All Star Game from Atlanta and punish GA. When MLB acquiesced to Biden they were reveling in the President and themselves.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She manages to evade the question and be condescending at the same time. #Unity

I’d expect the Dems to quickly distance themselves from this as quickly as possible by claiming that the President’s comment were taken out of context and are not the issue, that the owners and executives of MLB are Republicans, and that when the President spoke the decision to move the All Star game had already been made for issues unrelated to the Georgia voting law and are trying to pin the rose on Democrats for that decision. Guarantee it.
Atlanta will be the site of the Democrat Convention in 2024 as a condolence though.

Biden has been wrong on every step of this issue.

Every statement he has made about it is false. Every one. And, he has even been called out by the media.

Then, he has the audacity to go on ESPN and support this move based on his damned lies. What a guy.

You are probably right - they will have the convention there. Probably being negotiated now.

Unliike Trump, Biden was parroting what he was told, not conjuring the "lies" himself. Election law is complex, and the issues with the Georgia law are nuanced. It is very hard to explain, though the Microsoft statement posted in this thread does a pretty good job of explaining it.

The fact is, the GOP did some ok things, and some really horrible things in this bill. The horrible outweighs the good, and if they really wanted to do it right, they would have at least tried to make it bi-partisan (like Biden tried with the GOP on the CoVID releif bill) - but they didn't. They literally slammed it through and then had a closed signing to get it in place. That is not open and transparent. This bill is literally Jim Crow 2.0. Either it needs to be rescinded or else the state and its businesses will suffer because no one of moral conscious wants to be assocaited with it.

Nice try. He said it numerous times. Even Jen Psaki backed him up. They are lying and they know it. You do too.
We know what this is....... Trying to show that states can't be responsible enough to set their own election terms so we must have HR 1. Good luck with that.
What a bunch of crap.

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Anonymous wrote:Voting is a right and putting up barriers to the exercise of that right is wholly anti-American.

Then you must be utterly appalled that there are any time, place, and manner requirements at all.

This. You need ID for everything but not voting?? Hmm