Do more research. The average IBD score is down significantly from 20 years ago. The decline is linked to the rapid expansion of IBD in inner city public school systems in the UK and Britain. Struggling urban school systems like DCPS latch on to IBD as bandaid treatment for deep-rooted systemic problems. DCPS has done this at Eastern and Banneker.

The District already has a cohort of public school students who could post average IBD pass points totals well into the 30s, even the low 40s. But DCI and its feeders are not attracting, retaining or cultivating these students. At our feeder, many if not most of the strongest students leave for BASIS, Washington Latin, the burbs or privates.

Acting as a shill for weak school leadership and middling academics only gets you, and the District's immersion language students so far.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're wrong about IB pass point totals. Look it up.

The Diploma points scale for a pass is 24-45. That's the been the story for decades.

Roughly 1% of IBD takers score 45.

There are a small number of IB World Schools where average pass point totals are in the low 40s.

Let me guess, you didn't earn an IB Diploma.

Oh come on. We're not talking about the geniuses here. We are not talking about a few exceptional schools. We are talking about the general overall population where the average IB score is around 30.

The "general overall population" where, exactly? In US urban centers, like the District, in non-selective IBD programs like DCI?

I'm talking about how IBD is offered in more than 100 countries and territories internationally.

Oh cut the BS.

Here you go. Straight from the IB website and below is their docs. Page 4. Average IB score 29.59


https://www.ibo.org/contentassets/bc850970f4e54b87828f83c7976a4db6/dp-statistical-bulletin-november-2020-final-en.pdf

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're wrong about IB pass point totals. Look it up.

The Diploma points scale for a pass is 24-45. That's the been the story for decades.

Roughly 1% of IBD takers score 45.

There are a small number of IB World Schools where average pass point totals are in the low 40s.

Let me guess, you didn't earn an IB Diploma.

Oh come on. We're not talking about the geniuses here. We are not talking about a few exceptional schools. We are talking about the general overall population where the average IB score is around 30.

The "general overall population" where, exactly? In US urban centers, like the District, in non-selective IBD programs like DCI?

I'm talking about how IBD is offered in more than 100 countries and territories internationally.

Anonymous wrote:You're wrong about IB pass point totals. Look it up.

The Diploma points scale for a pass is 24-45. That's the been the story for decades.

Roughly 1% of IBD takers score 45.

There are a small number of IB World Schools where average pass point totals are in the low 40s.

Let me guess, you didn't earn an IB Diploma.

Oh come on. We are not talking about the geniuses here. We are not talking about a few exceptional schools. We are talking about the general overall population where the average IB score is around 30.

You're wrong about IB pass point totals. Look it up.

The Diploma points scale for a pass is 24-45. That's the been the story for decades.

Roughly 1% of IBD takers score 45.

There are a small number of IB World Schools where average pass point totals are in the low 40s.

Let me guess, you didn't earn an IB Diploma.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get a life.

Nobody argued that the weakest students at DCI shouldn't have access to challenging classes and great teachers. What was argued that these kids don't belong in the same classes as students who can handle work that's pitched multiple grade levels ahead of where the weakest students are. Stuart Hobson admins figured that one out a decade ago. They began tracking for English with the strong support of DCPS HQ, teachers and parents.

At least DCI tracks for math these days; they didn't used to.

Oh come on. Stuart Hobson doesn’t get a lot of buy in from the Capitol Hill folks and still don’t. The majority of kids there are poor performing. Scores are the worst. They had tracking for a while but most Capitol Hill families still don’t send their kids there. Their tracking is basically on grade level, nothing special. You can say a school offers tracking or AP in name but it doesn’t mean it’s advanced level.

Either you don’t talk to the Capitol Hill folks or you are a SH booster.

I'm no SH booster, but I'm willing to give their admins credit for breaking ELA instruction into several levels: Advanced, Remedial and ELL. DCI would do well to do the same.

You just don't get to IB Diploma points totals in 30s and 40s when the strongest humanities students are seldom challenged in MS humanities classes, not unless the families of high achievers supplement like mad.

But as PP said the advance is not really advanced. It’s on grade level. I mean look at the AP courses at Eastern or Dunbar. You really think the courses there prepare the kids for AP exam? I don’t think the SH crowd would get high marks in humanities either.

The division and label means nothing without adequate challenging content. BTW kids don’t get totals in the 40’s, not even close. Kids who get mid 30’s are the ones who have a shot at the Ivys. I suggest you familiarize yourself with the IB diploma before you post about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Get a life.

Nobody argued that the weakest students at DCI shouldn't have access to challenging classes and great teachers. What was argued that these kids don't belong in the same classes as students who can handle work that's pitched multiple grade levels ahead of where the weakest students are. Stuart Hobson admins figured that one out a decade ago. They began tracking for English with the strong support of DCPS HQ, teachers and parents.

At least DCI tracks for math these days; they didn't used to.

Oh come on. Stuart Hobson doesn’t get a lot of buy in from the Capitol Hill folks and still don’t. The majority of kids there are poor performing. Scores are the worst. They had tracking for a while but most Capitol Hill families still don’t send their kids there. Their tracking is basically on grade level, nothing special. You can say a school offers tracking or AP in name but it doesn’t mean it’s advanced level.

Either you don’t talk to the Capitol Hill folks or you are a SH booster.

I'm no SH booster, but I'm willing to give their admins credit for breaking ELA instruction into several levels: Advanced, Remedial and ELL. DCI would do well to do the same.

You just don't get to IB Diploma points totals in 30s and 40s when the strongest humanities students are seldom challenged in MS humanities classes, not unless the families of high achievers supplement like mad.

Anonymous wrote:Oh. And what makes you think DCI admin doesn't care??? You DO understand that they cannot tell the feeders what to teach or how, right?

From where I sit, the feeder admins and DCI admins could obviously be in much better sync. No question at all.

Is this how reputable K-12 private schools do business? The lower school and upper school leaders barely communicate and hardly engage in joint planning?

Anonymous wrote:The feeders clearly aren't offering advanced enough math in the upper grades for the strongest math students. DCI admins don't seem to care.

My DCPS 5th grader (got a DCI spot, enrolled) is already taking 7th grade math at school. DCI tells us that a 6th grader can't do algebra. No wonder DCI students are cracking IB Diploma higher level math.

We're not sure we're coming in the fall. May move to VA over the summer.

Look, I’m not a DCI fan, but this information is just not right. A 6th grader can’t take algebra because algebra isn’t a class at DCI. They do integrated math. There are plenty of 6th graders who have taken 8th grade math over the years.

Anonymous wrote:Get a life.

Nobody argued that the weakest students at DCI shouldn't have access to challenging classes and great teachers. What was argued that these kids don't belong in the same classes as students who can handle work that's pitched multiple grade levels ahead of where the weakest students are. Stuart Hobson admins figured that one out a decade ago. They began tracking for English with the strong support of DCPS HQ, teachers and parents.

At least DCI tracks for math these days; they didn't used to.

Oh come on. Stuart Hobson doesn’t get a lot of buy in from the Capitol Hill folks and still don’t. The majority of kids there are poor performing. Scores are the worst. They had tracking for a while but most Capitol Hill families still don’t send their kids there. Their tracking is basically on grade level, nothing special. You can say a school offers tracking or AP in name but it doesn’t mean it’s advanced level.

Either you don’t talk to the Capitol Hill folks or you are a SH booster.

Oh. And what makes you think DCI admin doesn't care??? You DO understand that they cannot tell the feeders what to teach or how, right?

A. hope you move to VA. You appear to deserve each other.
B. DCI only offers two levels of math: 1 that is the IB Math curriculum which is rigorous and includes all strands (called Integrated Math) and a separate track for a very few students that is waaay beyond grade level)

The feeders clearly aren't offering advanced enough math in the upper grades for the strongest math students. DCI admins don't seem to care.

My DCPS 5th grader (got a DCI spot, enrolled) is already taking 7th grade math at school. DCI tells us that a 6th grader can't do algebra. No wonder DCI students are cracking IB Diploma higher level math.

We're not sure we're coming in the fall. May move to VA over the summer.

Anonymous wrote:Tracks for math is strong language for what DCI is actually doing with math instruction. They're hardly teaching algebra to 5th and 6th graders who can handle it like BASIS does. This shows in IBD HL math results (no HL,no results).

Since when did DCI get to teach 5th graders anything? It starts at 6th grade.

Tracks for math is strong language for what DCI is actually doing with math instruction. They're hardly teaching algebra to 5th and 6th graders who can handle it like BASIS does. This shows in IBD HL math results (no HL,no results).