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Anonymous wrote:so much jealousy on this thread. I've noticed that nothing brings the meanies out on DCUM like a vacation home thread.

It’s not jealousy, it’s recognizing an entitled and uncouth non-family skinflint created this thread only to hear what she wanted to do in the first place: Keep pushing and prodding in-laws until she extracted what she wanted — the use of their vacation property.

Sorry we’re perceptive to her passive-aggressive, manipulative and misleading wording.

You're off-base and very invested in this.

Anonymous wrote:NP here and probably good that I didn't find this thread sooner, because I would have hijacked with my own rant. My siblings and I own our late parents' beach house, and every year it is a bit of brawl to schedule. The one sibling without kids pitches a fit if we try to pick weeks that work around camp or other kid activities. It's so petty and sad - but I think these sorts of things bring that out in people.

Anonymous wrote:NP here and probably good that I didn't find this thread sooner, because I would have hijacked with my own rant. My siblings and I own our late parents' beach house, and every year it is a bit of brawl to schedule. The one sibling without kids pitches a fit if we try to pick weeks that work around camp or other kid activities. It's so petty and sad - but I think these sorts of things bring that out in people.

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Anonymous wrote:so much jealousy on this thread. I've noticed that nothing brings the meanies out on DCUM like a vacation home thread.

It’s not jealousy, it’s recognizing an entitled and uncouth non-family skinflint created this thread only to hear what she wanted to do in the first place: Keep pushing and prodding in-laws until she extracted what she wanted — the use of their vacation property.

Sorry we’re perceptive to her passive-aggressive, manipulative and misleading wording.

Anonymous wrote:so much jealousy on this thread. I've noticed that nothing brings the meanies out on DCUM like a vacation home thread.

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Anonymous wrote:so much jealousy on this thread. I've noticed that nothing brings the meanies out on DCUM like a vacation home thread.

My parents have a lake cottage. DH’s parents pay for a beach rental and invite us every year. And DH and I man our nuclear family vacations, sometimes inviting extended family, sometimes not.

I have never once expected certain weeks, or expected answers about dates/timing on my schedule. If I ever hear “no” or “I can’t answer that yet,” I accept those answers and don’t push. Sorry to thwart your theory.

Every family dynamic is different. This doesn't make you a superior person. It means your dynamic is different. Certain things really do require pre-planning: camp deposits, travel plans, and so forth do operate on an actual, concrete timetable. Do you have older children who are out of the house? Managing many childrens' schedules is different.

My husband and I both work full-time, and our kids are 7.5 and 5, thanks. We know all about schedules and activities.

Here's what we also know: There is one property on this Earth that we have a right to control: our own house.

With my parents' lake cottage, we appreciate both the time we are invited to spend there with my parents/siblings, and the time that we ask for and are granted for, say, when I've had a girls' week there with my girlfriends from college. Sometimes, we ask for certain dates, and it doesn't work because my parents have already invited their friends, or they have allowed my mom's brother to use it for a fishing trip, for example. And yes, sometimes I've asked for dates, but my parents can't get back to me right away, because they've got some moving parts to consider. It's all good, because it's THEIR COTTAGE.

With my ILs' beach rentals, we never say anything but thank you so much for inviting us. We never make a big fuss of timing, because it's *their* vacation that works for their schedule, and they are inviting us along. So yeah, I've cancelled a deposit-down summer camp before, because we would rather our kids see the grandparents, and the grandparents had already put down the deposit on THEIR rental.

We've also treated my parents and ILs to vacations. And we always say thank you, bring contributions, take them out to meals, etc. They've been generous. We do not feel entitled or put out if things don't line up exactly with our schedules, preferences, or wishes.

Because we're adults.

I am sincerely confused as to why this strikes such a nerve for you that you keep asserting your lack of entitlement. In some families, being together doesn't require an "invitation." Also, your kids are young. Wait til they get older and schedules get. more complex. A toddler doesn't have the same schedule as a teen.

Oh, and sorry -- elementary school, not toddler. But the point stands: Every family has a different dynamic. It doesn't make you an "adult" because you have a different one. And teens have way more scheduling factors than 5-year-olds. There's no need to put someone else down.

I was coming here to say just that. Look, we don't have a vacation home but we have friends that do. And the dynamic in those families is more . . . permissible? Flexible? Definitely not the stick-up-your-ass variety of the "adult" poster above. It is expected -and welcome- that family will use the property on occasion.

Look, until you've had teenagers and are juggling those schedules, you really need to STFU about expectations and planning. My child is already hearing scheduling for FALL SPORTS. Fall. It is March. So it is not unreasonable to ask the host families to give a little with planning. If they want no one - fine. That's their house. But that doesn't appear the case.

PP's bizarrely defensive rant is particular to her own situation.

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Anonymous wrote:Ah yes, the family beach house drama. Always a DCUM classic!

I can’t believe how people hold on to these dumps. Like the teenage daughter really wants to have her 16th there?

Sometimes the beach "dump" is on Atlantic Ocean, Lake Champlain, Lake Michigan, Long Island Sound, Gulf of Mexico property worth millions.

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Anonymous wrote:so much jealousy on this thread. I've noticed that nothing brings the meanies out on DCUM like a vacation home thread.

My parents have a lake cottage. DH’s parents pay for a beach rental and invite us every year. And DH and I man our nuclear family vacations, sometimes inviting extended family, sometimes not.

I have never once expected certain weeks, or expected answers about dates/timing on my schedule. If I ever hear “no” or “I can’t answer that yet,” I accept those answers and don’t push. Sorry to thwart your theory.

Every family dynamic is different. This doesn't make you a superior person. It means your dynamic is different. Certain things really do require pre-planning: camp deposits, travel plans, and so forth do operate on an actual, concrete timetable. Do you have older children who are out of the house? Managing many childrens' schedules is different.

My husband and I both work full-time, and our kids are 7.5 and 5, thanks. We know all about schedules and activities.

Here's what we also know: There is one property on this Earth that we have a right to control: our own house.

With my parents' lake cottage, we appreciate both the time we are invited to spend there with my parents/siblings, and the time that we ask for and are granted for, say, when I've had a girls' week there with my girlfriends from college. Sometimes, we ask for certain dates, and it doesn't work because my parents have already invited their friends, or they have allowed my mom's brother to use it for a fishing trip, for example. And yes, sometimes I've asked for dates, but my parents can't get back to me right away, because they've got some moving parts to consider. It's all good, because it's THEIR COTTAGE.

With my ILs' beach rentals, we never say anything but thank you so much for inviting us. We never make a big fuss of timing, because it's *their* vacation that works for their schedule, and they are inviting us along. So yeah, I've cancelled a deposit-down summer camp before, because we would rather our kids see the grandparents, and the grandparents had already put down the deposit on THEIR rental.

We've also treated my parents and ILs to vacations. And we always say thank you, bring contributions, take them out to meals, etc. They've been generous. We do not feel entitled or put out if things don't line up exactly with our schedules, preferences, or wishes.

Because we're adults.

I am sincerely confused as to why this strikes such a nerve for you that you keep asserting your lack of entitlement. In some families, being together doesn't require an "invitation." Also, your kids are young. Wait til they get older and schedules get. more complex. A toddler doesn't have the same schedule as a teen.

Oh, and sorry -- elementary school, not toddler. But the point stands: Every family has a different dynamic. It doesn't make you an "adult" because you have a different one. And teens have way more scheduling factors than 5-year-olds. There's no need to put someone else down.

Here's what: If you don't own property, you have no right to feel entitled to dates to use or visit the place, or even a prompt-by-your-standards reply to a request for use of said property.

There's no wiggle room here. There's no gray area. Either you own a place, or you don't. And if you don't, you don't have a right to use of the property. And you don't have the right to feel miffed or put out that the property owners don't meet your expectations.

Want a vacation? Get out YOUR calendar and YOUR credit card and plan it.

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Anonymous wrote:so much jealousy on this thread. I've noticed that nothing brings the meanies out on DCUM like a vacation home thread.

My parents have a lake cottage. DH’s parents pay for a beach rental and invite us every year. And DH and I man our nuclear family vacations, sometimes inviting extended family, sometimes not.

I have never once expected certain weeks, or expected answers about dates/timing on my schedule. If I ever hear “no” or “I can’t answer that yet,” I accept those answers and don’t push. Sorry to thwart your theory.

Every family dynamic is different. This doesn't make you a superior person. It means your dynamic is different. Certain things really do require pre-planning: camp deposits, travel plans, and so forth do operate on an actual, concrete timetable. Do you have older children who are out of the house? Managing many childrens' schedules is different.

My husband and I both work full-time, and our kids are 7.5 and 5, thanks. We know all about schedules and activities.

Here's what we also know: There is one property on this Earth that we have a right to control: our own house.

With my parents' lake cottage, we appreciate both the time we are invited to spend there with my parents/siblings, and the time that we ask for and are granted for, say, when I've had a girls' week there with my girlfriends from college. Sometimes, we ask for certain dates, and it doesn't work because my parents have already invited their friends, or they have allowed my mom's brother to use it for a fishing trip, for example. And yes, sometimes I've asked for dates, but my parents can't get back to me right away, because they've got some moving parts to consider. It's all good, because it's THEIR COTTAGE.

With my ILs' beach rentals, we never say anything but thank you so much for inviting us. We never make a big fuss of timing, because it's *their* vacation that works for their schedule, and they are inviting us along. So yeah, I've cancelled a deposit-down summer camp before, because we would rather our kids see the grandparents, and the grandparents had already put down the deposit on THEIR rental.

We've also treated my parents and ILs to vacations. And we always say thank you, bring contributions, take them out to meals, etc. They've been generous. We do not feel entitled or put out if things don't line up exactly with our schedules, preferences, or wishes.

Because we're adults.

I am sincerely confused as to why this strikes such a nerve for you that you keep asserting your lack of entitlement. In some families, being together doesn't require an "invitation." Also, your kids are young. Wait til they get older and schedules get. more complex. A toddler doesn't have the same schedule as a teen.

Oh, and sorry -- elementary school, not toddler. But the point stands: Every family has a different dynamic. It doesn't make you an "adult" because you have a different one. And teens have way more scheduling factors than 5-year-olds. There's no need to put someone else down.

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Anonymous wrote:so much jealousy on this thread. I've noticed that nothing brings the meanies out on DCUM like a vacation home thread.

My parents have a lake cottage. DH’s parents pay for a beach rental and invite us every year. And DH and I man our nuclear family vacations, sometimes inviting extended family, sometimes not.

I have never once expected certain weeks, or expected answers about dates/timing on my schedule. If I ever hear “no” or “I can’t answer that yet,” I accept those answers and don’t push. Sorry to thwart your theory.

Every family dynamic is different. This doesn't make you a superior person. It means your dynamic is different. Certain things really do require pre-planning: camp deposits, travel plans, and so forth do operate on an actual, concrete timetable. Do you have older children who are out of the house? Managing many childrens' schedules is different.

My husband and I both work full-time, and our kids are 7.5 and 5, thanks. We know all about schedules and activities.

Here's what we also know: There is one property on this Earth that we have a right to control: our own house.

With my parents' lake cottage, we appreciate both the time we are invited to spend there with my parents/siblings, and the time that we ask for and are granted for, say, when I've had a girls' week there with my girlfriends from college. Sometimes, we ask for certain dates, and it doesn't work because my parents have already invited their friends, or they have allowed my mom's brother to use it for a fishing trip, for example. And yes, sometimes I've asked for dates, but my parents can't get back to me right away, because they've got some moving parts to consider. It's all good, because it's THEIR COTTAGE.

With my ILs' beach rentals, we never say anything but thank you so much for inviting us. We never make a big fuss of timing, because it's *their* vacation that works for their schedule, and they are inviting us along. So yeah, I've cancelled a deposit-down summer camp before, because we would rather our kids see the grandparents, and the grandparents had already put down the deposit on THEIR rental.

We've also treated my parents and ILs to vacations. And we always say thank you, bring contributions, take them out to meals, etc. They've been generous. We do not feel entitled or put out if things don't line up exactly with our schedules, preferences, or wishes.

Because we're adults.

I am sincerely confused as to why this strikes such a nerve for you that you keep asserting your lack of entitlement. In some families, being together doesn't require an "invitation." Also, your kids are young. Wait til they get older and schedules get. more complex. A toddler doesn't have the same schedule as a teen.

Oh, and sorry -- elementary school, not toddler. But the point stands: Every family has a different dynamic. It doesn't make you an "adult" because you have a different one. And teens have way more scheduling factors than 5-year-olds. There's no need to put someone else down.

Here's what: If you don't own property, you have no right to feel entitled to dates to use or visit the place, or even a prompt-by-your-standards reply to a request for use of said property.

There's no wiggle room here. There's no gray area. Either you own a place, or you don't. And if you don't, you don't have a right to use of the property. And you don't have the right to feel miffed or put out that the property owners don't meet your expectations.

Want a vacation? Get out YOUR calendar and YOUR credit card and plan it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so much jealousy on this thread. I've noticed that nothing brings the meanies out on DCUM like a vacation home thread.

My parents have a lake cottage. DH’s parents pay for a beach rental and invite us every year. And DH and I man our nuclear family vacations, sometimes inviting extended family, sometimes not.

I have never once expected certain weeks, or expected answers about dates/timing on my schedule. If I ever hear “no” or “I can’t answer that yet,” I accept those answers and don’t push. Sorry to thwart your theory.

Every family dynamic is different. This doesn't make you a superior person. It means your dynamic is different. Certain things really do require pre-planning: camp deposits, travel plans, and so forth do operate on an actual, concrete timetable. Do you have older children who are out of the house? Managing many childrens' schedules is different.

My husband and I both work full-time, and our kids are 7.5 and 5, thanks. We know all about schedules and activities.

Here's what we also know: There is one property on this Earth that we have a right to control: our own house.

With my parents' lake cottage, we appreciate both the time we are invited to spend there with my parents/siblings, and the time that we ask for and are granted for, say, when I've had a girls' week there with my girlfriends from college. Sometimes, we ask for certain dates, and it doesn't work because my parents have already invited their friends, or they have allowed my mom's brother to use it for a fishing trip, for example. And yes, sometimes I've asked for dates, but my parents can't get back to me right away, because they've got some moving parts to consider. It's all good, because it's THEIR COTTAGE.

With my ILs' beach rentals, we never say anything but thank you so much for inviting us. We never make a big fuss of timing, because it's *their* vacation that works for their schedule, and they are inviting us along. So yeah, I've cancelled a deposit-down summer camp before, because we would rather our kids see the grandparents, and the grandparents had already put down the deposit on THEIR rental.

We've also treated my parents and ILs to vacations. And we always say thank you, bring contributions, take them out to meals, etc. They've been generous. We do not feel entitled or put out if things don't line up exactly with our schedules, preferences, or wishes.

Because we're adults.

I am sincerely confused as to why this strikes such a nerve for you that you keep asserting your lack of entitlement. In some families, being together doesn't require an "invitation." Also, your kids are young. Wait til they get older and schedules get. more complex. A toddler doesn't have the same schedule as a teen.

Oh, and sorry -- elementary school, not toddler. But the point stands: Every family has a different dynamic. It doesn't make you an "adult" because you have a different one. And teens have way more scheduling factors than 5-year-olds. There's no need to put someone else down.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so much jealousy on this thread. I've noticed that nothing brings the meanies out on DCUM like a vacation home thread.

My parents have a lake cottage. DH’s parents pay for a beach rental and invite us every year. And DH and I man our nuclear family vacations, sometimes inviting extended family, sometimes not.

I have never once expected certain weeks, or expected answers about dates/timing on my schedule. If I ever hear “no” or “I can’t answer that yet,” I accept those answers and don’t push. Sorry to thwart your theory.

Every family dynamic is different. This doesn't make you a superior person. It means your dynamic is different. Certain things really do require pre-planning: camp deposits, travel plans, and so forth do operate on an actual, concrete timetable. Do you have older children who are out of the house? Managing many childrens' schedules is different.

My husband and I both work full-time, and our kids are 7.5 and 5, thanks. We know all about schedules and activities.

Here's what we also know: There is one property on this Earth that we have a right to control: our own house.

With my parents' lake cottage, we appreciate both the time we are invited to spend there with my parents/siblings, and the time that we ask for and are granted for, say, when I've had a girls' week there with my girlfriends from college. Sometimes, we ask for certain dates, and it doesn't work because my parents have already invited their friends, or they have allowed my mom's brother to use it for a fishing trip, for example. And yes, sometimes I've asked for dates, but my parents can't get back to me right away, because they've got some moving parts to consider. It's all good, because it's THEIR COTTAGE.

With my ILs' beach rentals, we never say anything but thank you so much for inviting us. We never make a big fuss of timing, because it's *their* vacation that works for their schedule, and they are inviting us along. So yeah, I've cancelled a deposit-down summer camp before, because we would rather our kids see the grandparents, and the grandparents had already put down the deposit on THEIR rental.

We've also treated my parents and ILs to vacations. And we always say thank you, bring contributions, take them out to meals, etc. They've been generous. We do not feel entitled or put out if things don't line up exactly with our schedules, preferences, or wishes.

Because we're adults.

I am sincerely confused as to why this strikes such a nerve for you that you keep asserting your lack of entitlement. In some families, being together doesn't require an "invitation." Also, your kids are young. Wait til they get older and schedules get. more complex. A toddler doesn't have the same schedule as a teen.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so much jealousy on this thread. I've noticed that nothing brings the meanies out on DCUM like a vacation home thread.

My parents have a lake cottage. DH’s parents pay for a beach rental and invite us every year. And DH and I man our nuclear family vacations, sometimes inviting extended family, sometimes not.

I have never once expected certain weeks, or expected answers about dates/timing on my schedule. If I ever hear “no” or “I can’t answer that yet,” I accept those answers and don’t push. Sorry to thwart your theory.

Every family dynamic is different. This doesn't make you a superior person. It means your dynamic is different. Certain things really do require pre-planning: camp deposits, travel plans, and so forth do operate on an actual, concrete timetable. Do you have older children who are out of the house? Managing many childrens' schedules is different.

My husband and I both work full-time, and our kids are 7.5 and 5, thanks. We know all about schedules and activities.

Here's what we also know: There is one property on this Earth that we have a right to control: our own house.

With my parents' lake cottage, we appreciate both the time we are invited to spend there with my parents/siblings, and the time that we ask for and are granted for, say, when I've had a girls' week there with my girlfriends from college. Sometimes, we ask for certain dates, and it doesn't work because my parents have already invited their friends, or they have allowed my mom's brother to use it for a fishing trip, for example. And yes, sometimes I've asked for dates, but my parents can't get back to me right away, because they've got some moving parts to consider. It's all good, because it's THEIR COTTAGE.

With my ILs' beach rentals, we never say anything but thank you so much for inviting us. We never make a big fuss of timing, because it's *their* vacation that works for their schedule, and they are inviting us along. So yeah, I've cancelled a deposit-down summer camp before, because we would rather our kids see the grandparents, and the grandparents had already put down the deposit on THEIR rental.

We've also treated my parents and ILs to vacations. And we always say thank you, bring contributions, take them out to meals, etc. They've been generous. We do not feel entitled or put out if things don't line up exactly with our schedules, preferences, or wishes.

Because we're adults.

I am sincerely confused as to why this strikes such a nerve for you that you keep asserting your lack of entitlement. In some families, being together doesn't require an "invitation." Also, your kids are young. Wait til they get older and schedules get. more complex. A toddler doesn't have the same schedule as a teen.