Anonymous wrote:New poster here. the problem isn't that the teachers aren't working hard; most of them are. The problem is that it's impossible to reach 25 kids online. What they are doing is really Sisyphus's labor.
Schools need to reopen with those willing to teach in person teaching in person, those not willing taking the virtual classes or maybe quitting.

It would be easier if the parents supported the teachers and made sure students showed up, participated and did the assigned work.

This is shitstorm any way you look at it. Even the oped while starting and ending with a forceful tone displays ambivalence and doubt. He understands why teachers would be scared to go back and yet he says they must be the heroes and do it for the kids. I want schools to open too. I want my kids and teachers to be safe. I want these new variants to be a nonissue. I want in person learning when it does happen to be more like it used to be. I cant will any of these things to happen/be true. It feels very helpless. Both my kids broke down today, so so sad about quarantine dragging on. Cannot take one more day. Im there for them but cant make it better.

Most of the families I work with are not coming back. I do home based services and see multiple families (not related) living in small townhomes. Like 4 to 5 families. It’s easy to see how the virus can spread in those situations and why it could be hazardous for those families to send those kids to school.

Anonymous wrote:karen - yes bipoc unlike whites.

BIPOC are disproportionally poor or low paid. They don't have short term disability, sick leave. They live in a world of if I don't work I don't eat. They figured out how to have this person watch kids and do DL while they work; they live in smaller homes and can't isolate like you. They can't order Whole Food delivery unlike you. They take a bus or several to get their kid to school - forget WMATA isn't running like normal so that means getting up even earlier to get kids to a masked school.

don't tell me you believe bipoc people don't love their kids

DP. Of course they love their kids. They also have an easier time with DL because there are either family members home to assist with DL or because they have family members close by to assist with DL. Let me ask you this. Is having kids go to school, distanced, masked, cohorted with hand washing and other mitigation measures in place creating more for of risk for auntie or grandma than having parents working outside of the home and having a schedule where the cousins, each of whom have parents who work in higher risk public facing positions, go to each other's or grandmother's house for DL during the day? Because the reality is that going to school may not increase the risk to those communities and in some cases, it might actually reduce risk. The greatest risk comes from unmasked encounters, which is why low wage workers with public facing jobs who live in multigenerational households are at the greatest risk. The parents' jobs create risk and not masked and distanced school. The family structure provides the support but it also increases risk.

Read the article in the Post today about who is coming back to school in DC and who isn't.

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Anonymous wrote:karen - yes bipoc unlike whites.

BIPOC are disproportionally poor or low paid. They don't have short term disability, sick leave. They live in a world of if I don't work I don't eat. They figured out how to have this person watch kids and do DL while they work; they live in smaller homes and can't isolate like you. They can't order Whole Food delivery unlike you. They take a bus or several to get their kid to school - forget WMATA isn't running like normal so that means getting up even earlier to get kids to a masked school.

don't tell me you believe bipoc people don't love their kids

They’re also the ones who are most impacted by schools not being open.

Some of you have never listened to one of Brabrand's Spanish speaking town halls and it shows. If you don't speak or understand Spanish, watch on Facebook Live and translate the comments.

But I thought we Karens were only ignoring black students?

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Anonymous wrote:karen - yes bipoc unlike whites.

BIPOC are disproportionally poor or low paid. They don't have short term disability, sick leave. They live in a world of if I don't work I don't eat. They figured out how to have this person watch kids and do DL while they work; they live in smaller homes and can't isolate like you. They can't order Whole Food delivery unlike you. They take a bus or several to get their kid to school - forget WMATA isn't running like normal so that means getting up even earlier to get kids to a masked school.

don't tell me you believe bipoc people don't love their kids

They’re also the ones who are most impacted by schools not being open.

Some of you have never listened to one of Brabrand's Spanish speaking town halls and it shows. If you don't speak or understand Spanish, watch on Facebook Live and translate the comments.

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Anonymous wrote:karen - yes bipoc unlike whites.

BIPOC are disproportionally poor or low paid. They don't have short term disability, sick leave. They live in a world of if I don't work I don't eat. They figured out how to have this person watch kids and do DL while they work; they live in smaller homes and can't isolate like you. They can't order Whole Food delivery unlike you. They take a bus or several to get their kid to school - forget WMATA isn't running like normal so that means getting up even earlier to get kids to a masked school.

don't tell me you believe bipoc people don't love their kids

They’re also the ones who are most impacted by schools not being open.

Impacted in what way? According to who?

According to your white impression of what parental involvement means

We have families at my school where now the parent is involved in school because it’s at home and they are sitting next to their child. They clean your offices at night

Anonymous wrote:karen - yes bipoc unlike whites.

BIPOC are disproportionally poor or low paid. They don't have short term disability, sick leave. They live in a world of if I don't work I don't eat. They figured out how to have this person watch kids and do DL while they work; they live in smaller homes and can't isolate like you. They can't order Whole Food delivery unlike you. They take a bus or several to get their kid to school - forget WMATA isn't running like normal so that means getting up even earlier to get kids to a masked school.

don't tell me you believe bipoc people don't love their kids

They’re also the ones who are most impacted by schools not being open.

karen - yes bipoc unlike whites.

BIPOC are disproportionally poor or low paid. They don't have short term disability, sick leave. They live in a world of if I don't work I don't eat. They figured out how to have this person watch kids and do DL while they work; they live in smaller homes and can't isolate like you. They can't order Whole Food delivery unlike you. They take a bus or several to get their kid to school - forget WMATA isn't running like normal so that means getting up even earlier to get kids to a masked school.

don't tell me you believe bipoc people don't love their kids

They don't want to return because this virus has run rampant through their communities. I only have a few of my students returning to school. Parents don't think it's safe because they know what our school is like in a normal year. Mice, mold, lack of soap, paper towels, etc. Our school isn't cleaned in a normal year. The bathrooms are sometimes closed due to plumbing issues (overflowing and clogged toilets and sinks that don't work). They don't trust the school district and I don't blame them. Teachers don't either.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm glad teachers are standing up for themselves. The majority of them are women and are used to being walked all over. It's time that they take a stand. Can you fault them for wanting to keep themselves and their families healthy?

+1

Just ignore the entitled a-hole parents. They lack basic respect for others and happily misdirect their anger about the pandemic towards teachers because they think they can boss them around like servants. So vile.

A-hole? Are you a poorly educated middle schooler or a teacher?

I’m a parent who is tired of seeing entitled a-hole parents crap all over teachers and think they have some kind of power over them. They aren’t your servants FFS.

I'm a parent here who believes the same thing. Thank you.

And every time I point out a hole in the we must go back no matter what, DL isn't work for MY child so the risk reward equation must change, etc. argument I'm accused of being a teacher. Nope I don't have the patience to deal with ahole parents or kids who can't read. Spent 20 minutes working on reading with my child - I love him - BUT OMG it was hard and we were doing "fun" reading.

I thought that BIPOC families wanted to go back and when it was proposed I thought find let them take the available spaces and I will keep my child home to help with numbers, etc. And then all studies show those poors don't want to go back so I spent my time learning why. And it makes total sense and I respect their choices.

BIPOC?

Because they're concerned for their families (unlike whites). Because they've been disproportionately impacted by covid (unlike whites). Because they don't trust doctors or vaccines (unlike whites). Because they don't value in-person education (unlike whites). Because they're fine with minimal education for their kids anyway (unlike whites).

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Anonymous wrote:I'm glad teachers are standing up for themselves. The majority of them are women and are used to being walked all over. It's time that they take a stand. Can you fault them for wanting to keep themselves and their families healthy?

+1

Just ignore the entitled a-hole parents. They lack basic respect for others and happily misdirect their anger about the pandemic towards teachers because they think they can boss them around like servants. So vile.

A-hole? Are you a poorly educated middle schooler or a teacher?

I’m a parent who is tired of seeing entitled a-hole parents crap all over teachers and think they have some kind of power over them. They aren’t your servants FFS.

I'm a parent here who believes the same thing. Thank you.

And every time I point out a hole in the we must go back no matter what, DL isn't work for MY child so the risk reward equation must change, etc. argument I'm accused of being a teacher. Nope I don't have the patience to deal with ahole parents or kids who can't read. Spent 20 minutes working on reading with my child - I love him - BUT OMG it was hard and we were doing "fun" reading.

I thought that BIPOC families wanted to go back and when it was proposed I thought find let them take the available spaces and I will keep my child home to help with numbers, etc. And then all studies show those poors don't want to go back so I spent my time learning why. And it makes total sense and I respect their choices.

New poster here. the problem isn't that the teachers aren't working hard; most of them are. The problem is that it's impossible to reach 25 kids online. What they are doing is really Sisyphus's labor.
Schools need to reopen with those willing to teach in person teaching in person, those not willing taking the virtual classes or maybe quitting.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm glad teachers are standing up for themselves. The majority of them are women and are used to being walked all over. It's time that they take a stand. Can you fault them for wanting to keep themselves and their families healthy?

+1

Just ignore the entitled a-hole parents. They lack basic respect for others and happily misdirect their anger about the pandemic towards teachers because they think they can boss them around like servants. So vile.

A-hole? Are you a poorly educated middle schooler or a teacher?

I’m a parent who is tired of seeing entitled a-hole parents crap all over teachers and think they have some kind of power over them. They aren’t your servants FFS.