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Anonymous wrote:I really hope all these people threatening to leave really fo it. The empty threats (I’m leaving!) and grandstanding are getting old. Yes, Florida is definitely the place that really cares about schools. When people ask where the great schools are I always answer Florida. How’s that old saying go? Sh** in the pot or get off?

It lowers class sizes for the rest of us. Not a bad thing that they go for the greater good. I'm amazed at how many are willing to put their kids in a potentially dangerous situation without any cares or concerns for their child's health.

Grow up. My spouse has been working outside the home for the past two months - he has to keep his job. I feel like my kid is as safe at his DCPS, if not safer, than at home as my spouse commutes from home to work. My kid has been in a CARES class taught by one of his regular classroom teachers for the last six weeks. Nobody in his group has tested positive, and the kids and teachers/aides are tested weekly. He seems a good deal happier than before he joined the class. He's also doing better academically. Stuff it.

Are you sure? What I've learned on this board is that if a family decline testing, neither teachers nor the other families are informed of that crucial information gap.

Why not just say you are at Brent? But the PP is correct. You have NO IDEA if everyone is being tested. The school is not allowed to tell you that information.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly, the shifting goalposts are alienating parents all across the city. I'm a liberal, longtime DC resident with children in DCPS for 5 or 6 years. I support unions, but have become fed up with the lack of transparency, honesty, leadership I can have confidence in and intelligent planning to reopen public elementary schools on both the part of the WTU and the mayor and her people. I feel rotten for the hard-working and decent admins and teachers at our neighborhood DCPS. They clearly aren't getting the help or support they need from any quarter to plan or move ahead on good form.

Blaming the vicissitudes of a harsh pandemic for leadership failings and union intransigence at the expense of kids is no longer working for me. If things haven't changed by the fall, we're out of DCPS. Out of the area, perhaps. Out of the public school system, definitely.

I think blaming the union or DCPS is misguided. Remember, this is a (hopefully) once in a lifetime pandemic and where we are wasn't inevitable. What if back in February we had competent federal leadershipthat got ahead of it, with mass testing contract tracing, funding for school HVAC upgrades, etc. Yes, the goalposts are moving. Yes, the communication has been bad. But these entities were not set up to make these types of massive decisions. Not their expertise. It didn't have to be this way, don't forget that. Instead we got a do-nothing moron who wished it would go away and when it didn't, let everyone else figure it out however they could.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. My kiddo is excelling with DL and I love my charter. And I'm not moving to Trump country so I can be in-person in school districts that teach Jesus but no history.

A lot of school up north (NY, MA) have been open since September too.

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Anonymous wrote:My 8 year-old needs school. She toughs DL out, but was a happier child and much better learner when she could attend school in-person. She plays outside with friends after school, but that doesn't make up for the fact that she often finds Microsoft Team instruction frustrating and uninspiring. We may have a have a hybrid spot at our DCPS EotP come February - we'll know in a few days.

If there's no DCPS school for her through the spring, and no full-time school into the fall, we plan for one parent to take a break from DC with grandparents in a fairly upscale small New England town in the fall, near to the homes of cousins their age. This is a no brainer because our two children like staying with their grandparents/cousins and don't like learning from home. My in-laws town is offering full-time public school right now, and has since Labor Day. Schools in their town put the odd class on hiatus, after a teacher or student tests positive, but they don't shut down the entire school or school system. The superintendent of schools and the school board have threatened to fire teachers who refuse to teach in person without medical documentation. The arrangement is working, that's New England for you.

She doesn’t need in person you want in person. Easier for you.

NP. Shut up already. You don't know her or her kid, and you are in no position to judge what her kid needs or not. Repulsive.

What's repulsive is the stream of hateful comments on teachers demanding that they risk their lives or lose their jobs, when distance learning exists. What's repulsive is that some posters choose to spend their time writing those hateful comments, referring to their presumed children who are presumably suffering and not learning anything, when they could be helping their own children instead. Their posts show that while they're not super logical, or science literate, they're at least educated enough to help their kids with their elementary education and have at least enough time to do it.

Stop pretending you have science on your side for keeping schools closed.

And stop pretending that all it takes to counteract the harmful effects of closed schools on children is an “involved” parent, or that this is only about the kids of the posters here. Your careless dismissal of the severity and depth of the problem is what is so despicable, along with your presumption that you know every poster’s or their child’s situation.

Careless dismissal of the severity and depth of the problem is a fantastic expression, kudos. It's also an exact description of the posturing by those families who demand schools open while dismissing the pandemic. It is so exact, in fact, that I'm wondering whether you lifted it from a statement to you about your consideration of the pandemic in your demands.

Nope, came up with it all on my own. And you are mistaken if you assume that people who recognize the depth and severity of the problem of closed schools all dismiss the severity of the pandemic. It is possible to recognize both as significant problems, which have to be handled in balance with each other. That has happened in some places (mostly outside the US), but has not been happening in DC, where schools have remained completely closed.

Countries outside the US have implemented much more stringent non-pharmaceutical interventions that local, state and federal authorities in the US haven't even attempted convincing us to endorse (and I can see why not).

This deflection keeps getting repeated. It is not universally true, and what matters is the level of community spread they had while keeping schools open.

Deflection? That's rich! "Yes, schools are open, but everyone has to be inside of their own homes by 6pm" is not a deflection, it is a massive qualifier that changes everything in the sense that the community's covid transmission "budget" (you know, like a credit ceiling on a 27% APR card - not a real healthy budget) is spent on schools rather than other activities. Other activities that DC residents don't seem willing to abandon.

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Anonymous wrote:My 8 year-old needs school. She toughs DL out, but was a happier child and much better learner when she could attend school in-person. She plays outside with friends after school, but that doesn't make up for the fact that she often finds Microsoft Team instruction frustrating and uninspiring. We may have a have a hybrid spot at our DCPS EotP come February - we'll know in a few days.

If there's no DCPS school for her through the spring, and no full-time school into the fall, we plan for one parent to take a break from DC with grandparents in a fairly upscale small New England town in the fall, near to the homes of cousins their age. This is a no brainer because our two children like staying with their grandparents/cousins and don't like learning from home. My in-laws town is offering full-time public school right now, and has since Labor Day. Schools in their town put the odd class on hiatus, after a teacher or student tests positive, but they don't shut down the entire school or school system. The superintendent of schools and the school board have threatened to fire teachers who refuse to teach in person without medical documentation. The arrangement is working, that's New England for you.

She doesn’t need in person you want in person. Easier for you.

NP. Shut up already. You don't know her or her kid, and you are in no position to judge what her kid needs or not. Repulsive.

What's repulsive is the stream of hateful comments on teachers demanding that they risk their lives or lose their jobs, when distance learning exists. What's repulsive is that some posters choose to spend their time writing those hateful comments, referring to their presumed children who are presumably suffering and not learning anything, when they could be helping their own children instead. Their posts show that while they're not super logical, or science literate, they're at least educated enough to help their kids with their elementary education and have at least enough time to do it.

Stop pretending you have science on your side for keeping schools closed.

And stop pretending that all it takes to counteract the harmful effects of closed schools on children is an “involved” parent, or that this is only about the kids of the posters here. Your careless dismissal of the severity and depth of the problem is what is so despicable, along with your presumption that you know every poster’s or their child’s situation.

Careless dismissal of the severity and depth of the problem is a fantastic expression, kudos. It's also an exact description of the posturing by those families who demand schools open while dismissing the pandemic. It is so exact, in fact, that I'm wondering whether you lifted it from a statement to you about your consideration of the pandemic in your demands.

Nope, came up with it all on my own. And you are mistaken if you assume that people who recognize the depth and severity of the problem of closed schools all dismiss the severity of the pandemic. It is possible to recognize both as significant problems, which have to be handled in balance with each other. That has happened in some places (mostly outside the US), but has not been happening in DC, where schools have remained completely closed.

Countries outside the US have implemented much more stringent non-pharmaceutical interventions that local, state and federal authorities in the US haven't even attempted convincing us to endorse (and I can see why not).

This deflection keeps getting repeated. It is not universally true, and what matters is the level of community spread they had while keeping schools open.

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Anonymous wrote:My 8 year-old needs school. She toughs DL out, but was a happier child and much better learner when she could attend school in-person. She plays outside with friends after school, but that doesn't make up for the fact that she often finds Microsoft Team instruction frustrating and uninspiring. We may have a have a hybrid spot at our DCPS EotP come February - we'll know in a few days.

If there's no DCPS school for her through the spring, and no full-time school into the fall, we plan for one parent to take a break from DC with grandparents in a fairly upscale small New England town in the fall, near to the homes of cousins their age. This is a no brainer because our two children like staying with their grandparents/cousins and don't like learning from home. My in-laws town is offering full-time public school right now, and has since Labor Day. Schools in their town put the odd class on hiatus, after a teacher or student tests positive, but they don't shut down the entire school or school system. The superintendent of schools and the school board have threatened to fire teachers who refuse to teach in person without medical documentation. The arrangement is working, that's New England for you.

She doesn’t need in person you want in person. Easier for you.

NP. Shut up already. You don't know her or her kid, and you are in no position to judge what her kid needs or not. Repulsive.

What's repulsive is the stream of hateful comments on teachers demanding that they risk their lives or lose their jobs, when distance learning exists. What's repulsive is that some posters choose to spend their time writing those hateful comments, referring to their presumed children who are presumably suffering and not learning anything, when they could be helping their own children instead. Their posts show that while they're not super logical, or science literate, they're at least educated enough to help their kids with their elementary education and have at least enough time to do it.

Stop pretending you have science on your side for keeping schools closed.

And stop pretending that all it takes to counteract the harmful effects of closed schools on children is an “involved” parent, or that this is only about the kids of the posters here. Your careless dismissal of the severity and depth of the problem is what is so despicable, along with your presumption that you know every poster’s or their child’s situation.

Careless dismissal of the severity and depth of the problem is a fantastic expression, kudos. It's also an exact description of the posturing by those families who demand schools open while dismissing the pandemic. It is so exact, in fact, that I'm wondering whether you lifted it from a statement to you about your consideration of the pandemic in your demands.

Nope, came up with it all on my own. And you are mistaken if you assume that people who recognize the depth and severity of the problem of closed schools all dismiss the severity of the pandemic. It is possible to recognize both as significant problems, which have to be handled in balance with each other. That has happened in some places (mostly outside the US), but has not been happening in DC, where schools have remained completely closed.

Countries outside the US have implemented much more stringent non-pharmaceutical interventions that local, state and federal authorities in the US haven't even attempted convincing us to endorse (and I can see why not).

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Anonymous wrote:My 8 year-old needs school. She toughs DL out, but was a happier child and much better learner when she could attend school in-person. She plays outside with friends after school, but that doesn't make up for the fact that she often finds Microsoft Team instruction frustrating and uninspiring. We may have a have a hybrid spot at our DCPS EotP come February - we'll know in a few days.

If there's no DCPS school for her through the spring, and no full-time school into the fall, we plan for one parent to take a break from DC with grandparents in a fairly upscale small New England town in the fall, near to the homes of cousins their age. This is a no brainer because our two children like staying with their grandparents/cousins and don't like learning from home. My in-laws town is offering full-time public school right now, and has since Labor Day. Schools in their town put the odd class on hiatus, after a teacher or student tests positive, but they don't shut down the entire school or school system. The superintendent of schools and the school board have threatened to fire teachers who refuse to teach in person without medical documentation. The arrangement is working, that's New England for you.

She doesn’t need in person you want in person. Easier for you.

NP. Shut up already. You don't know her or her kid, and you are in no position to judge what her kid needs or not. Repulsive.

What's repulsive is the stream of hateful comments on teachers demanding that they risk their lives or lose their jobs, when distance learning exists. What's repulsive is that some posters choose to spend their time writing those hateful comments, referring to their presumed children who are presumably suffering and not learning anything, when they could be helping their own children instead. Their posts show that while they're not super logical, or science literate, they're at least educated enough to help their kids with their elementary education and have at least enough time to do it.

Stop pretending you have science on your side for keeping schools closed.

And stop pretending that all it takes to counteract the harmful effects of closed schools on children is an “involved” parent, or that this is only about the kids of the posters here. Your careless dismissal of the severity and depth of the problem is what is so despicable, along with your presumption that you know every poster’s or their child’s situation.

Careless dismissal of the severity and depth of the problem is a fantastic expression, kudos. It's also an exact description of the posturing by those families who demand schools open while dismissing the pandemic. It is so exact, in fact, that I'm wondering whether you lifted it from a statement to you about your consideration of the pandemic in your demands.

Nope, came up with it all on my own. And you are mistaken if you assume that people who recognize the depth and severity of the problem of closed schools all dismiss the severity of the pandemic. It is possible to recognize both as significant problems, which have to be handled in balance with each other. That has happened in some places (mostly outside the US), but has not been happening in DC, where schools have remained completely closed.

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Anonymous wrote:My 8 year-old needs school. She toughs DL out, but was a happier child and much better learner when she could attend school in-person. She plays outside with friends after school, but that doesn't make up for the fact that she often finds Microsoft Team instruction frustrating and uninspiring. We may have a have a hybrid spot at our DCPS EotP come February - we'll know in a few days.

If there's no DCPS school for her through the spring, and no full-time school into the fall, we plan for one parent to take a break from DC with grandparents in a fairly upscale small New England town in the fall, near to the homes of cousins their age. This is a no brainer because our two children like staying with their grandparents/cousins and don't like learning from home. My in-laws town is offering full-time public school right now, and has since Labor Day. Schools in their town put the odd class on hiatus, after a teacher or student tests positive, but they don't shut down the entire school or school system. The superintendent of schools and the school board have threatened to fire teachers who refuse to teach in person without medical documentation. The arrangement is working, that's New England for you.

She doesn’t need in person you want in person. Easier for you.

NP. Shut up already. You don't know her or her kid, and you are in no position to judge what her kid needs or not. Repulsive.

What's repulsive is the stream of hateful comments on teachers demanding that they risk their lives or lose their jobs, when distance learning exists. What's repulsive is that some posters choose to spend their time writing those hateful comments, referring to their presumed children who are presumably suffering and not learning anything, when they could be helping their own children instead. Their posts show that while they're not super logical, or science literate, they're at least educated enough to help their kids with their elementary education and have at least enough time to do it.

Stop pretending you have science on your side for keeping schools closed.

And stop pretending that all it takes to counteract the harmful effects of closed schools on children is an “involved” parent, or that this is only about the kids of the posters here. Your careless dismissal of the severity and depth of the problem is what is so despicable, along with your presumption that you know every poster’s or their child’s situation.

Careless dismissal of the severity and depth of the problem is a fantastic expression, kudos. It's also an exact description of the posturing by those families who demand schools open while dismissing the pandemic. It is so exact, in fact, that I'm wondering whether you lifted it from a statement to you about your consideration of the pandemic in your demands.

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope all these people threatening to leave really fo it. The empty threats (I’m leaving!) and grandstanding are getting old. Yes, Florida is definitely the place that really cares about schools. When people ask where the great schools are I always answer Florida. How’s that old saying go? Sh** in the pot or get off?

It lowers class sizes for the rest of us. Not a bad thing that they go for the greater good. I'm amazed at how many are willing to put their kids in a potentially dangerous situation without any cares or concerns for their child's health.

You think? At desirable schools, they will just backfill with OOB.

OMG!!!! Not OOB!!!!!!!!! Brown kids in my class...noooooooooooooooooooooooo!

You disgust me.

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Anonymous wrote:My 8 year-old needs school. She toughs DL out, but was a happier child and much better learner when she could attend school in-person. She plays outside with friends after school, but that doesn't make up for the fact that she often finds Microsoft Team instruction frustrating and uninspiring. We may have a have a hybrid spot at our DCPS EotP come February - we'll know in a few days.

If there's no DCPS school for her through the spring, and no full-time school into the fall, we plan for one parent to take a break from DC with grandparents in a fairly upscale small New England town in the fall, near to the homes of cousins their age. This is a no brainer because our two children like staying with their grandparents/cousins and don't like learning from home. My in-laws town is offering full-time public school right now, and has since Labor Day. Schools in their town put the odd class on hiatus, after a teacher or student tests positive, but they don't shut down the entire school or school system. The superintendent of schools and the school board have threatened to fire teachers who refuse to teach in person without medical documentation. The arrangement is working, that's New England for you.

She doesn’t need in person you want in person. Easier for you.

NP. Shut up already. You don't know her or her kid, and you are in no position to judge what her kid needs or not. Repulsive.

What's repulsive is the stream of hateful comments on teachers demanding that they risk their lives or lose their jobs, when distance learning exists. What's repulsive is that some posters choose to spend their time writing those hateful comments, referring to their presumed children who are presumably suffering and not learning anything, when they could be helping their own children instead. Their posts show that while they're not super logical, or science literate, they're at least educated enough to help their kids with their elementary education and have at least enough time to do it.

Stop pretending you have science on your side for keeping schools closed.

And stop pretending that all it takes to counteract the harmful effects of closed schools on children is an “involved” parent, or that this is only about the kids of the posters here. Your careless dismissal of the severity and depth of the problem is what is so despicable, along with your presumption that you know every poster’s or their child’s situation.

Anonymous wrote:Exactly, the shifting goalposts are alienating parents all across the city. I'm a liberal, longtime DC resident with children in DCPS for 5 or 6 years. I support unions, but have become fed up with the lack of transparency, honesty, leadership I can have confidence in and intelligent planning to reopen public elementary schools on both the part of the WTU and the mayor and her people. I feel rotten for the hard-working and decent admins and teachers at our neighborhood DCPS. They clearly aren't getting the help or support they need from any quarter to plan or move ahead on good form.

Blaming the vicissitudes of a harsh pandemic for leadership failings and union intransigence at the expense of kids is no longer working for me. If things haven't changed by the fall, we're out of DCPS. Out of the area, perhaps. Out of the public school system, definitely.

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope all these people threatening to leave really fo it. The empty threats (I’m leaving!) and grandstanding are getting old. Yes, Florida is definitely the place that really cares about schools. When people ask where the great schools are I always answer Florida. How’s that old saying go? Sh** in the pot or get off?

It lowers class sizes for the rest of us. Not a bad thing that they go for the greater good. I'm amazed at how many are willing to put their kids in a potentially dangerous situation without any cares or concerns for their child's health.

You think? At desirable schools, they will just backfill with OOB.

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope all these people threatening to leave really fo it. The empty threats (I’m leaving!) and grandstanding are getting old. Yes, Florida is definitely the place that really cares about schools. When people ask where the great schools are I always answer Florida. How’s that old saying go? Sh** in the pot or get off?

We moved in August. Not to Florida, but a few hours from DC and our kids are in private school now. Full-time, in-person. They love it. They don't mind the masks or social distancing at all, since they still get to socialize and see other kids.

DS, who is in kindergarten, had to do DL for 2 weeks because a kid in his class tested positive, but they do it by classroom when that happens since the classrooms are isolated (even at recess) when in school.

We'll move back to DC this summer, where our home has been sitting empty in the meantime. I'm positive we made the right choice for our family.

Questions for you:
- are students and teachers routinely tested regardless of exposure or symptoms in your temporary private?
- how many kids per class?
- how/where are lunches taken?
- what county, so we can look at covid statistics there?

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope all these people threatening to leave really fo it. The empty threats (I’m leaving!) and grandstanding are getting old. Yes, Florida is definitely the place that really cares about schools. When people ask where the great schools are I always answer Florida. How’s that old saying go? Sh** in the pot or get off?

It lowers class sizes for the rest of us. Not a bad thing that they go for the greater good. I'm amazed at how many are willing to put their kids in a potentially dangerous situation without any cares or concerns for their child's health.

Grow up. My spouse has been working outside the home for the past two months - he has to keep his job. I feel like my kid is as safe at his DCPS, if not safer, than at home as my spouse commutes from home to work. My kid has been in a CARES class taught by one of his regular classroom teachers for the last six weeks. Nobody in his group has tested positive, and the kids and teachers/aides are tested weekly. He seems a good deal happier than before he joined the class. He's also doing better academically. Stuff it.

Are you sure? What I've learned on this board is that if a family decline testing, neither teachers nor the other families are informed of that crucial information gap.