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Anonymous wrote:They won’t need subs. They will have teachers watching each others classes during planning time and splitting up classes to drop a few in other classrooms. It’s going to be hell for school admin to manage and teachers to do.

WTF is this????

It’s reality. Think about it. Teachers start having to quarantine or stay home sick because they can’t tell if it’s a cold or covid. No way we have enough subs now, we never did pre covid. The in school kids can’t sit in a room without physical supervision .

Not that many people are going g to have to quarantine because they won’t be defined as a close contact. People either don’t understand this or are being deliberately obtuse.

Anonymous wrote:Did they tell teachers and staff about the metrics before they asked them to return in person, or did they pull a fast one like FCPS? I can't imagine anyone agreeing ahead of time to stay in person with numbers that high.

Not sure why that matters. When teachers had to submit their choice, NO metrics were set - good, bad or otherwise. So it’s not like they had different metrics and then changed them. They had no metrics at all. And frankly I do not see them changing the metrics at this point. Beth Barts does not speak for the school board.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did they tell teachers and staff about the metrics before they asked them to return in person, or did they pull a fast one like FCPS? I can't imagine anyone agreeing ahead of time to stay in person with numbers that high.

They did not tell teachers about metrics. Fast one is an understatement.

Which is why LEA and VEA will make sure these backwards decision do not take place.

Why am I not surprised? Take it from someone in-person in FCPS, it is not safe. Resign if you have to. I'm serious. I don't think LEA/FEA/VEA have as much power as some people on here claim, but they should be throwing their entire weight behind this. I'm disappointed they aren't. FEA is telling us to write letters and speak at the next board meeting, which is all well and good, but I suspect they'd be a lot more forceful if the people in charge had to be in person right now.

We know. I spent the whole break agonizing over this with my spouse. We decided I will leave if they still have this plan in January. I hate the choice but I will make it if that’s what it comes down to. I don’t think the Ed associations will have much power over this tbh. Perhaps the board will reconsider or, sadly, the metrics will reach the insanely high levels they set and it will be DL anyway but they cannot go forward with the plan that’s being presented 12/1. It is so far beyond the reasonable metrics set by every other district around us, it’s not even defensible. I dare say even some hybrid parents will find it particularly reckless.

The other districts metrics aren’t based on anything but random guesses either. You just like them better because they are closed and we are not.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They won’t need subs. They will have teachers watching each others classes during planning time and splitting up classes to drop a few in other classrooms. It’s going to be hell for school admin to manage and teachers to do.

WTF is this????

It’s reality. Think about it. Teachers start having to quarantine or stay home sick because they can’t tell if it’s a cold or covid. No way we have enough subs now, we never did pre covid. The in school kids can’t sit in a room without physical supervision .

Anonymous wrote:They won’t need subs. They will have teachers watching each others classes during planning time and splitting up classes to drop a few in other classrooms. It’s going to be hell for school admin to manage and teachers to do.

LOL, we won't have planning time, at least not in ES.

Anonymous wrote:They won’t need subs. They will have teachers watching each others classes during planning time and splitting up classes to drop a few in other classrooms. It’s going to be hell for school admin to manage and teachers to do.

WTF is this????

I know. And then if you do contract it it will be “well there was mitigation so it couldn’t have come from school you must be taking chances in your own life and bringing it into school.” Hoping you are as healthy and safe as possible PP.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did they tell teachers and staff about the metrics before they asked them to return in person, or did they pull a fast one like FCPS? I can't imagine anyone agreeing ahead of time to stay in person with numbers that high.

They did not tell teachers about metrics. Fast one is an understatement.

Which is why LEA and VEA will make sure these backwards decision do not take place.

Why am I not surprised? Take it from someone in-person in FCPS, it is not safe. Resign if you have to. I'm serious. I don't think LEA/FEA/VEA have as much power as some people on here claim, but they should be throwing their entire weight behind this. I'm disappointed they aren't. FEA is telling us to write letters and speak at the next board meeting, which is all well and good, but I suspect they'd be a lot more forceful if the people in charge had to be in person right now.

We know. I spent the whole break agonizing over this with my spouse. We decided I will leave if they still have this plan in January. I hate the choice but I will make it if that’s what it comes down to. I don’t think the Ed associations will have much power over this tbh. Perhaps the board will reconsider or, sadly, the metrics will reach the insanely high levels they set and it will be DL anyway but they cannot go forward with the plan that’s being presented 12/1. It is so far beyond the reasonable metrics set by every other district around us, it’s not even defensible. I dare say even some hybrid parents will find it particularly reckless.

You are doing the right thing. Anyone who is saying it's safe inside a school right now is not spending 7.5 hours a day in a classroom with students who may or may not have mask exemptions*. And no, an office full of adults or a grocery store where you only see people for a couple minutes is not the same thing.

*That's another thing. Most schools are not going to tell you whether anyone has a mask exemption until you're already back. If they have one, the school can't say anything or try to teach the student to wear a mask. As a parent, I find this inexcusable. As an employee, I find it infuriating.

They won’t need subs. They will have teachers watching each others classes during planning time and splitting up classes to drop a few in other classrooms. It’s going to be hell for school admin to manage and teachers to do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did they tell teachers and staff about the metrics before they asked them to return in person, or did they pull a fast one like FCPS? I can't imagine anyone agreeing ahead of time to stay in person with numbers that high.

They did not tell teachers about metrics. Fast one is an understatement.

Which is why LEA and VEA will make sure these backwards decision do not take place.

Why am I not surprised? Take it from someone in-person in FCPS, it is not safe. Resign if you have to. I'm serious. I don't think LEA/FEA/VEA have as much power as some people on here claim, but they should be throwing their entire weight behind this. I'm disappointed they aren't. FEA is telling us to write letters and speak at the next board meeting, which is all well and good, but I suspect they'd be a lot more forceful if the people in charge had to be in person right now.

We know. I spent the whole break agonizing over this with my spouse. We decided I will leave if they still have this plan in January. I hate the choice but I will make it if that’s what it comes down to. I don’t think the Ed associations will have much power over this tbh. Perhaps the board will reconsider or, sadly, the metrics will reach the insanely high levels they set and it will be DL anyway but they cannot go forward with the plan that’s being presented 12/1. It is so far beyond the reasonable metrics set by every other district around us, it’s not even defensible. I dare say even some hybrid parents will find it particularly reckless.

I can’t quit. I’ll exhaust the sick days. Then I’ll have a doctor friend write covid and ride that covid sickness policy.

Parents are in for a treat when

A) they see concurrent is DL inside the school
B) lack of staff creates logistical nightmares because
C) pre-covid they couldn’t secure subs and during covid you’re delusional if you think anyone will willingly expose themselves to sit in front of a computer for 7+ hours in an enclosed habitat

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did they tell teachers and staff about the metrics before they asked them to return in person, or did they pull a fast one like FCPS? I can't imagine anyone agreeing ahead of time to stay in person with numbers that high.

They did not tell teachers about metrics. Fast one is an understatement.

Which is why LEA and VEA will make sure these backwards decision do not take place.

Why am I not surprised? Take it from someone in-person in FCPS, it is not safe. Resign if you have to. I'm serious. I don't think LEA/FEA/VEA have as much power as some people on here claim, but they should be throwing their entire weight behind this. I'm disappointed they aren't. FEA is telling us to write letters and speak at the next board meeting, which is all well and good, but I suspect they'd be a lot more forceful if the people in charge had to be in person right now.

We know. I spent the whole break agonizing over this with my spouse. We decided I will leave if they still have this plan in January. I hate the choice but I will make it if that’s what it comes down to. I don’t think the Ed associations will have much power over this tbh. Perhaps the board will reconsider or, sadly, the metrics will reach the insanely high levels they set and it will be DL anyway but they cannot go forward with the plan that’s being presented 12/1. It is so far beyond the reasonable metrics set by every other district around us, it’s not even defensible. I dare say even some hybrid parents will find it particularly reckless.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did they tell teachers and staff about the metrics before they asked them to return in person, or did they pull a fast one like FCPS? I can't imagine anyone agreeing ahead of time to stay in person with numbers that high.

They did not tell teachers about metrics. Fast one is an understatement.

Which is why LEA and VEA will make sure these backwards decision do not take place.

Why am I not surprised? Take it from someone in-person in FCPS, it is not safe. Resign if you have to. I'm serious. I don't think LEA/FEA/VEA have as much power as some people on here claim, but they should be throwing their entire weight behind this. I'm disappointed they aren't. FEA is telling us to write letters and speak at the next board meeting, which is all well and good, but I suspect they'd be a lot more forceful if the people in charge had to be in person right now.

Anonymous wrote:Did they tell teachers and staff about the metrics before they asked them to return in person, or did they pull a fast one like FCPS? I can't imagine anyone agreeing ahead of time to stay in person with numbers that high.

No. They literally added an agenda item at the last minute to a boundaries meeting to set the metrics. It wasn’t discussed nor up for public comment, the chair just added it to an agenda for a boundaries meeting out of nowhere and they passed them that night! Nor did they tell parents before making the choice for second semester that our kids would be expected to still be in the buildings five more school days (so not including weekends!) even after we hit these crazy high metrics. I’m a parent who sent my kids hybrid due to my job but I REALLY wish I had known that their “transition to DL” meant we could hit metrics and the kids still go for 5 days. I get so frustrated with this board because of this - they do not make policy proactively. It’s entirely reactive and then they have to walk stuff back or change it. Parents should have had that info BEFORE making binding 2nd semester choices, not a week after. Fast one all around.

Anonymous wrote:Did they tell teachers and staff about the metrics before they asked them to return in person, or did they pull a fast one like FCPS? I can't imagine anyone agreeing ahead of time to stay in person with numbers that high.

They did not tell teachers about metrics. Fast one is an understatement.

Which is why LEA and VEA will make sure these backwards decision do not take place.

Did they tell teachers and staff about the metrics before they asked them to return in person, or did they pull a fast one like FCPS? I can't imagine anyone agreeing ahead of time to stay in person with numbers that high.