Anonymous
12/24/2020 17:53
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t be surprised if they picked up a few more additional coaches this year.
It seems like a couple coaches change clubs across the overall soccer scene here every year, so that's not a surprise, but is there a particular new angle or reason other than normal movement (someone leaves, someone else comes in) you'd think this?
LMVSC just sent out an e-mail wishing their director of athletic development (whatever that actually means) good luck in his future endeavors
How is this true? He’s supposed to be leading a Winter Sports Program starting January 5th
they just tweeted it too
https://twitter.com/LMVSCSoccer/status/1341808557851897861
Coaches hope all the rumors about Lula the Executive Director are NOT true, sadly they quickly find out the truth...
I was a volunteer and I know, she was dry and arrogant towards staff and coaches.
As a parent, don't think about making any complains...her claws come out quickly.
Anonymous
12/23/2020 15:46
Subject: Re:What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are the same coaches more successful at SYC than they ever were at LEE MOUNT VERNON ?
They were successful at Lee Mt. Vernon and are still successful at SYC... Given that most of the Lee Mt. Vernon players followed their coaches to the new club.
Not sure they would've had success at SYC without those players though.
Let’s assume this is true for a minute (players following). With exception of a couple teams that made a big move (after earlier going the other direction in at least 1 case), that influx was limited to a few players/age group while not losing a ton (although some people did leave). Consolidating talent in the small area covered by SYC/Gunston/LMVSC/South County programs gives those same coaches more talent to coach. I think the current coaches are an impressive group that has also managed to consolidate some kids that in years past have spread across those programs listed above, which kept them all in a similar competition level. Greater concentration of talented players coming together with good coaches is a good recipe for success.
How does the consolidation of talented players (which I agree happened) prove that the coaches are good? Nothing against anyone, but this is classic for this area. Couple clubs pull this off every few years and then it goes away just as quickly. Too many clubs, too many egos, too much money flowing for any of this to be sustainable.
Fair point - player consolidation improving the talent level doesn't prove the coaches are good. My opinion as an SYC parent is that at least the ones we've interacted with are good, but the proof will be if they can sustain and show continued development across multiple age groups. Consistently good results across a period of time and continued development are important and that will take a little while to show.
I think I'm just jaded. I've seen so many coaches in this area make a name for themselves on the back of recruiting from other clubs. It always falls apart for one reason or another (although money is usually the culprit). At some point, someone will turn around and ask why the TD's friend is paid more or getting the better teams, a board member will make noise about their kid's placement, or some other nonsense we've seen 1000 times before. I'm not even sure another club would take it's place, but rather it would return to the mean. All this said, please just pick the team with the right coach for your kid, not the right $.02 crest on it's jersey.
Anonymous
12/23/2020 14:20
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t be surprised if they picked up a few more additional coaches this year.
It seems like a couple coaches change clubs across the overall soccer scene here every year, so that's not a surprise, but is there a particular new angle or reason other than normal movement (someone leaves, someone else comes in) you'd think this?
LMVSC just sent out an e-mail wishing their director of athletic development (whatever that actually means) good luck in his future endeavors
How is this true? He’s supposed to be leading a Winter Sports Program starting January 5th
they just tweeted it too
https://twitter.com/LMVSCSoccer/status/1341808557851897861
Anonymous
12/23/2020 14:11
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t be surprised if they picked up a few more additional coaches this year.
It seems like a couple coaches change clubs across the overall soccer scene here every year, so that's not a surprise, but is there a particular new angle or reason other than normal movement (someone leaves, someone else comes in) you'd think this?
LMVSC just sent out an e-mail wishing their director of athletic development (whatever that actually means) good luck in his future endeavors
How is this true? He’s supposed to be leading a Winter Sports Program starting January 5th
Anonymous
12/23/2020 14:08
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t be surprised if they picked up a few more additional coaches this year.
It seems like a couple coaches change clubs across the overall soccer scene here every year, so that's not a surprise, but is there a particular new angle or reason other than normal movement (someone leaves, someone else comes in) you'd think this?
LMVSC just sent out an e-mail wishing their director of athletic development (whatever that actually means) good luck in his future endeavors
Copy and paste or it’s fake news
Anonymous
12/23/2020 14:05
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t be surprised if they picked up a few more additional coaches this year.
It seems like a couple coaches change clubs across the overall soccer scene here every year, so that's not a surprise, but is there a particular new angle or reason other than normal movement (someone leaves, someone else comes in) you'd think this?
LMVSC just sent out an e-mail wishing their director of athletic development (whatever that actually means) good luck in his future endeavors
Anonymous
12/23/2020 14:03
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t be surprised if they picked up a few more additional coaches this year.
It seems like a couple coaches change clubs across the overall soccer scene here every year, so that's not a surprise, but is there a particular new angle or reason other than normal movement (someone leaves, someone else comes in) you'd think this?
Anonymous
12/23/2020 11:52
Subject: What does everyone think about SYC
Wouldn’t be surprised if they picked up a few more additional coaches this year.
Anonymous
12/22/2020 22:23
Subject: Re:What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are the same coaches more successful at SYC than they ever were at LEE MOUNT VERNON ?
They were successful at Lee Mt. Vernon and are still successful at SYC... Given that most of the Lee Mt. Vernon players followed their coaches to the new club.
Not sure they would've had success at SYC without those players though.
Let’s assume this is true for a minute (players following). With exception of a couple teams that made a big move (after earlier going the other direction in at least 1 case), that influx was limited to a few players/age group while not losing a ton (although some people did leave). Consolidating talent in the small area covered by SYC/Gunston/LMVSC/South County programs gives those same coaches more talent to coach. I think the current coaches are an impressive group that has also managed to consolidate some kids that in years past have spread across those programs listed above, which kept them all in a similar competition level. Greater concentration of talented players coming together with good coaches is a good recipe for success.
How does the consolidation of talented players (which I agree happened) prove that the coaches are good? Nothing against anyone, but this is classic for this area. Couple clubs pull this off every few years and then it goes away just as quickly. Too many clubs, too many egos, too much money flowing for any of this to be sustainable.
Fair point - player consolidation improving the talent level doesn't prove the coaches are good. My opinion as an SYC parent is that at least the ones we've interacted with are good, but the proof will be if they can sustain and show continued development across multiple age groups. Consistently good results across a period of time and continued development are important and that will take a little while to show.
Anonymous
12/22/2020 22:04
Subject: Re:What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are the same coaches more successful at SYC than they ever were at LEE MOUNT VERNON ?
They were successful at Lee Mt. Vernon and are still successful at SYC... Given that most of the Lee Mt. Vernon players followed their coaches to the new club.
Not sure they would've had success at SYC without those players though.
Let’s assume this is true for a minute (players following). With exception of a couple teams that made a big move (after earlier going the other direction in at least 1 case), that influx was limited to a few players/age group while not losing a ton (although some people did leave). Consolidating talent in the small area covered by SYC/Gunston/LMVSC/South County programs gives those same coaches more talent to coach. I think the current coaches are an impressive group that has also managed to consolidate some kids that in years past have spread across those programs listed above, which kept them all in a similar competition level. Greater concentration of talented players coming together with good coaches is a good recipe for success.
How does the consolidation of talented players (which I agree happened) prove that the coaches are good? Nothing against anyone, but this is classic for this area. Couple clubs pull this off every few years and then it goes away just as quickly. Too many clubs, too many egos, too much money flowing for any of this to be sustainable.
Anonymous
12/22/2020 21:37
Subject: Re:What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are the same coaches more successful at SYC than they ever were at LEE MOUNT VERNON ?
They were successful at Lee Mt. Vernon and are still successful at SYC... Given that most of the Lee Mt. Vernon players followed their coaches to the new club.
Not sure they would've had success at SYC without those players though.
But with the same players they had Lee Mt. Vernon. those teams are so much better now at SYC. What was holding them back from being so good at Lee Mt. Vernon? Is the culture that much different ?
It’s not the same players in MLS. They have drawn more by taking a core group at SYC. SYC had some success before the shift, and the shifting players had some success before going to SYC. I don’t think any of this is surprising. This is what MLS and ambition will do for the right clubs.
This so true and we sit and watch BRYC stumble over and over year after year. When will they wake up and bring in a new technical staff ?
Anonymous
12/22/2020 21:32
Subject: Re:What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are the same coaches more successful at SYC than they ever were at LEE MOUNT VERNON ?
They were successful at Lee Mt. Vernon and are still successful at SYC... Given that most of the Lee Mt. Vernon players followed their coaches to the new club.
Not sure they would've had success at SYC without those players though.
But with the same players they had Lee Mt. Vernon. those teams are so much better now at SYC. What was holding them back from being so good at Lee Mt. Vernon? Is the culture that much different ?
It’s not the same players in MLS. They have drawn more by taking a core group at SYC. SYC had some success before the shift, and the shifting players had some success before going to SYC. I don’t think any of this is surprising. This is what MLS and ambition will do for the right clubs.
Anonymous
12/22/2020 20:42
Subject: Re:What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are the same coaches more successful at SYC than they ever were at LEE MOUNT VERNON ?
They were successful at Lee Mt. Vernon and are still successful at SYC... Given that most of the Lee Mt. Vernon players followed their coaches to the new club.
Not sure they would've had success at SYC without those players though.
But with the same players they had Lee Mt. Vernon. those teams are so much better now at SYC. What was holding them back from being so good at Lee Mt. Vernon? Is the culture that much different ?
Anonymous
12/22/2020 20:30
Subject: Re:What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are the same coaches more successful at SYC than they ever were at LEE MOUNT VERNON ?
They were successful at Lee Mt. Vernon and are still successful at SYC... Given that most of the Lee Mt. Vernon players followed their coaches to the new club.
Not sure they would've had success at SYC without those players though.
Let’s assume this is true for a minute (players following). With exception of a couple teams that made a big move (after earlier going the other direction in at least 1 case), that influx was limited to a few players/age group while not losing a ton (although some people did leave). Consolidating talent in the small area covered by SYC/Gunston/LMVSC/South County programs gives those same coaches more talent to coach. I think the current coaches are an impressive group that has also managed to consolidate some kids that in years past have spread across those programs listed above, which kept them all in a similar competition level. Greater concentration of talented players coming together with good coaches is a good recipe for success.
Anonymous
12/22/2020 19:16
Subject: Re:What does everyone think about SYC
Anonymous wrote:Why are the same coaches more successful at SYC than they ever were at LEE MOUNT VERNON ?
They were successful at Lee Mt. Vernon and are still successful at SYC... Given that most of the Lee Mt. Vernon players followed their coaches to the new club.
Not sure they would've had success at SYC without those players though.