Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can scream and cry all you want, but Trump will nominate an extreme conservative and a Republican Senate will quickly confirm. Is it fair? No, absolutely not. But that’s what’s going to happen. And the Dems won’t pack the Court if they win the Presidency and the Senate (and that’s a big if), because then the Republicans would just do the same down the road. This is all very nasty and sad, but it’s what will happen. End of debate. End of story.

Glad to see someone has already reached the Acceptance phase of Grief.

I don’t know about that. Susan Collins and lisa murkowski said they wouldn’t support a vote. Even Lindsey Graham might be threatened by actually having to face voters this year.

What would they do after November 3?

Collins has said that she would not vote in lame duck session. Murkowski has not said. However, both Grassley and Romney have also said, like Collins, that the would not vote in 2020 for a SC nomination.

However, after the election, as long as Martha McSally is not certified the winner, then her appointment expires on November 30. That gives McConnell a 3.5 week window that includes Thanksgiving weekend (from Nov 4-30) to hold Senate judicial hearings, questions from Democrats, a vote, then hold a full Senate hearing, questions from Democrats, and a vote. And that assumes that AZ does not certify Mark Kelly as a winner before 11/30 AND that he can convince Murkowski to agree to push a rushed vote through a lame duck Senate AND that he does not get any other defections over that time.

Honestly, while it is possible, it's going to be an uphill battle for the next 2.5 months for McConnell to get this done.

Hope it's Barrett

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can scream and cry all you want, but Trump will nominate an extreme conservative and a Republican Senate will quickly confirm. Is it fair? No, absolutely not. But that’s what’s going to happen. And the Dems won’t pack the Court if they win the Presidency and the Senate (and that’s a big if), because then the Republicans would just do the same down the road. This is all very nasty and sad, but it’s what will happen. End of debate. End of story.

Glad to see someone has already reached the Acceptance phase of Grief.

I don’t know about that. Susan Collins and lisa murkowski said they wouldn’t support a vote. Even Lindsey Graham might be threatened by actually having to face voters this year.

What would they do after November 3?

I think Trump will nominate an ultra religious conservative for the seat, knowing confirmation hearings will be dragged out and will bait the Democrats into questioning the nominee’s religion and abortion stances. Nominee won’t get through before the election, as expected (giving cover to some R senators to vote no). They will hope this rallies the old reliable religious/evangelical crowd like never before (especially if they can get some good sound bytes to push the “Christian persecution”’angle and so forth), pushing Trump over the finish line, and maybe even hold the Senate. Will it work? I don’t know...but it won’t matter..

If Trump loses, they’ll just do a lame duck appointment and push it through before inauguration. Lame duck “R” senators will have nothing to lose at that point and will vote party line to ensure various gigs after this is all over.

In short- yeah, we are screwed.

Not gonna happen by November. If Trump loses, as he surely, will, watch out fir the lame duck. It’ll be 52 R 42 D (Kelly sworn in). How will the defeated Tillis, Collins, Gardner, and Graham respond?

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Anonymous wrote:The Democrats have only one card that they can play:

Refusing to fund the government.

It's time to play dirty. So be it.

They’ve been playing that card with unemployment for six weeks now. Don’t see how this is going to move the needle more than UI, wildfire aid, hurricane response, COVID testing, USPS funding and whatever else.

Maybe time to review the second paragraph of the Declararion of Independence

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security

at what point does the GOP push us to reform the government away from the abuses and usurpations taking place?

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats have only one card that they can play:

Refusing to fund the government.

It's time to play dirty. So be it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can scream and cry all you want, but Trump will nominate an extreme conservative and a Republican Senate will quickly confirm. Is it fair? No, absolutely not. But that’s what’s going to happen. And the Dems won’t pack the Court if they win the Presidency and the Senate (and that’s a big if), because then the Republicans would just do the same down the road. This is all very nasty and sad, but it’s what will happen. End of debate. End of story.

Glad to see someone has already reached the Acceptance phase of Grief.

I don’t know about that. Susan Collins and lisa murkowski said they wouldn’t support a vote. Even Lindsey Graham might be threatened by actually having to face voters this year.

LOL, they both talk big but fold every time. And Graham will do whatever Trump wants.

The Democrats have only one card that they can play:

Refusing to fund the government.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can scream and cry all you want, but Trump will nominate an extreme conservative and a Republican Senate will quickly confirm. Is it fair? No, absolutely not. But that’s what’s going to happen. And the Dems won’t pack the Court if they win the Presidency and the Senate (and that’s a big if), because then the Republicans would just do the same down the road. This is all very nasty and sad, but it’s what will happen. End of debate. End of story.

Glad to see someone has already reached the Acceptance phase of Grief.

Yep, it doesn’t do anyone any good to live in denial. Andiamo!

Mitch McConnell is a warped and depraved person. Even his own daughters hate him.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/410686-grassley-says-judiciary-panel-wouldnt-consider-supreme-court-nominee-in

Grassley has already said that he would not consider a SC justice nomination in 2020. So have Murkowski, Collins and Romney. Unless McConnell can pressure these four to change their minds, they have all publicly said that they would not vote to fill a SC seat in 2020. And they have all said so in the last few months.

Graham said it in 2018. So we'll see if he keeps his word.

Lindsey has a surprisingly tough re-election this year. He’ll cave.

Nope. He will stand with Mitch. All of them will cram a vote through. It's how they roll.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can scream and cry all you want, but Trump will nominate an extreme conservative and a Republican Senate will quickly confirm. Is it fair? No, absolutely not. But that’s what’s going to happen. And the Dems won’t pack the Court if they win the Presidency and the Senate (and that’s a big if), because then the Republicans would just do the same down the road. This is all very nasty and sad, but it’s what will happen. End of debate. End of story.

Glad to see someone has already reached the Acceptance phase of Grief.

I don’t know about that. Susan Collins and lisa murkowski said they wouldn’t support a vote. Even Lindsey Graham might be threatened by actually having to face voters this year.

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Anonymous wrote:Just vile.

I wouldn’t put it past them to hasten her death.

I posited this in the original thread. It would be an effort to reign in stray Reoublican voters who hate Trump.