Anonymous
Post 07/03/2020 23:08     Subject: Re:DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance

Anonymous wrote:^ Thank you!

Some fool trying to gaslight teachers. I'm sure some do feel no in-person til a vaccine, however the MAJORITY just do not trust DCPS to follow through on basic safety precautions. And the poll was worded to reflect that.

We also want to push DCPS on actually providing a clear plan and work with teachers as well as parents in carving that plan.


Teacher here. This x1000^
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2020 22:14     Subject: Re:DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance

No one has answered my question- how do parents vision learning in the fall? No one is talking about learning. How do you think instruction is going to happen? It will NOT be the way we’ve been doing it.


I would like to see a hybrid. 2 days in - 3 days distance learning. Teachers can introduce new topics and do testing on in-person days. Distance learning I think would be smoother. I think the partial in-person will allow schools an easier number to social distance.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2020 21:23     Subject: Re:DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance

Again , PP use logic : given cost of housing innDC most of the hospital staff, grocery clerks, etc...don’t send their kids to DCPS as they can’t afford to live in DC

Seems that there is resentment here directed at Ward 3 parents “ those are the ones in surveys who want schools open”

Well, as anyone who works in ward 3 knows , a huge portion of the kids at Eaton, Horace Mann , etc are out of bounds kids from other wards

There are about 50k kids in DC who attend DCPS ( public and charter ) and about 15k kids innDC who go to private school

Most , not all, but most of the kids in ward 3 go to Marey, Sidwell, Cathedral Schools, GDS, , Sheridan, Lowell, WIS , Landon , Prep, Holton ....you get the picture

So this idea that it’s a bunch of what do you call us ,”Karens “ who are demanding ward 3 public’s re-open is just you spinning that taped message in your head
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2020 21:14     Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance

Anonymous wrote:I do think below about 3rd or 4th grade it will not be possible to expect masks to be worn all day.

But all classrooms should employ multiple measures like opening windows, plastic screens, and face shields and masks on teachers.

And if teachers really can’t won’t teach the same grade they should offer to be re-assigned. The ongoing education of the children needs be prioritized, we cannot wait for a vaccine.


+ 1,000
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2020 20:50     Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teachers- we need to be back at work. Parents- you need to help us fight for cleaning & class sizes. Without it- we’ll get shut down again. Parents- you've also gotta understand that DC still hasn’t given us a definition of what hybrid looks like. Covid kiddo care is hard to find & we find need a running head start.
We miss your students. We love our jobs.
We can make this work.


Yes we can. Parents, please reach out to DCPS and demand details and guarantees of the protocols and protections they claim they will provide!

Also- under the current directives from DCPS of we go back to work & catch Covid- from being back & have to quarantine for 2 weeks well have to burn our leave. This can easily be remedied. Many of us are willing to bump up against the risks, because they are minimal for healthy folks- but don’t then penalize us for coming back to work.
Dcps can do this right. But it’s going to take a lore more thought & accountability than that awful document they sent out last week


So, PP how is your mailman managing ? And your grocery store check out person ?
And all the staff at the hospital . Not just doctors and nurses but the cleaners, the security people? Just how is DC fire managing to show up ?

Everyone except teachers , right ?

Now THAT’s entitlement!
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2020 18:43     Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance

Parents- have any of you used the CARES act for 12 weeks of leave? If not, why?
Most of you all have 3 months that you could use so your not stressed with work & being with your children.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2020 16:56     Subject: Re:DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not only are there supply and cleaning issues but some of the practices around sick students have to change. I’ve had a kid throw up on the floor and take the whole class outside because it took too long to get a custodian to clean up. I’ve had kids sent back to class with a basin because they didn’t actually throw up in front of the nurse. Kids come back to class if they don’t have a fever or they can’t get in contact with a parent/guardian but are clearly ill. And of course there are the kids who tell you they had a fever or threw up that morning but there they are at school. All of this has become the teacher’s problem and that has to change if we plan to keep students and teachers safe.


I'm a parent and I completely agree, and wish this had never been handled so laxly. When a kid in my kid's class throws up at school (my kids always report this to me) and then is back the next day, I strongly resent their parents for sending them.


Vomit doesn’t always require quarantine. Many vomiting instances are a result of food poisoning which is not contagious. Why the contempt? Kids need to be in school and parents know their kids better than your 3rd hand expertise.


It's parents like you who will make it impossible to have in-person school in times of Covid.


+1000

I know my kid better than you is the most annoying line parents give. Of course teachers know that, but anyone with half a brain knows puking on the floor at school means you are ill. The entitlement is astounding. And if that's how you plan to act please also plan for full time DL.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2020 16:54     Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I think it’s really a matter of whether you trust your school leadership. DCPS won’t be doing anything on a day-to-day basis re: scrubbing schools, etc; your principal and admin team will. Same with putting desks far enough apart, etc, etc. This is going to look very different at different schools and, actually, some of the most well off schools are going to have the biggest problems. Our school is at capacity basically (just had a self contained classroom removed to accommodate an extra class), but not over... no trailers, no classes with more than 22-23 kids max. If DCPS just left it up to our school to implement, I think we could do it; we have a good active PTA that has just recently proved it has teachers’ backs. I’m cautiously optimistic.

Our administrators are absolutely not cleaning anything. That's a total joke. They hid in their offices in March when it was clear that this was a widespread problem, and they will continue to do so next year. They also don't purchase cleaning supplies out of their (much higher) salaries. Both the cleaning and providing supplies will fall to the teachers, as it always has.
22-23 kids is not actually going to work in the fall-try nine or ten.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2020 16:27     Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance

Honestly, I think it’s really a matter of whether you trust your school leadership. DCPS won’t be doing anything on a day-to-day basis re: scrubbing schools, etc; your principal and admin team will. Same with putting desks far enough apart, etc, etc. This is going to look very different at different schools and, actually, some of the most well off schools are going to have the biggest problems. Our school is at capacity basically (just had a self contained classroom removed to accommodate an extra class), but not over... no trailers, no classes with more than 22-23 kids max. If DCPS just left it up to our school to implement, I think we could do it; we have a good active PTA that has just recently proved it has teachers’ backs. I’m cautiously optimistic.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2020 16:01     Subject: Re:DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance

I'm wondering why so many parents here are so trusting that DCPS will adhere to protocols? Even with anecdotal evidence from plenty of teachers on this board we have some clear published evidence that they DO NOT.

Hello...we just lost Head Start funding. Or rather or application was pulled, please don't be so daft as to not know the reason why.

As a young, and healthy teacher I am fine with the IDEA of hybrid. In fact I know I have a greater risk as a self-contained teacher with a tiny classroom and students who 100% will not meet social distancing requirements or mask regulations.

Now I am not fine with the reality because like many other teachers said they can't even keep the school clean on a regular basis...you think I want to return under those conditions.
Please don't say I am lazy and I am not passionate, that narrative is so gaslighting and you know it. Even grocery store workers have more protection now, plexiglass and literally constant cleaning! I have never seen Trader Joe's for example so sparkling clean!

We need some guarantees that policies will be followed and if not suing the District is acceptable. Though I'm not even sure that's enough since I know how often they're already sued.

Once again the problem is not hybrid learning but DCPS following actual protocols to the letter.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2020 15:49     Subject: Re:DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not only are there supply and cleaning issues but some of the practices around sick students have to change. I’ve had a kid throw up on the floor and take the whole class outside because it took too long to get a custodian to clean up. I’ve had kids sent back to class with a basin because they didn’t actually throw up in front of the nurse. Kids come back to class if they don’t have a fever or they can’t get in contact with a parent/guardian but are clearly ill. And of course there are the kids who tell you they had a fever or threw up that morning but there they are at school. All of this has become the teacher’s problem and that has to change if we plan to keep students and teachers safe.


I'm a parent and I completely agree, and wish this had never been handled so laxly. When a kid in my kid's class throws up at school (my kids always report this to me) and then is back the next day, I strongly resent their parents for sending them.


Vomit doesn’t always require quarantine. Many vomiting instances are a result of food poisoning which is not contagious. Why the contempt? Kids need to be in school and parents know their kids better than your 3rd hand expertise.


The rule is 24 hours vomit and fever free. Come on, if your kid threw up on Tuesday don’t bring them back Wednesday. It’s disgusting and an obvious F you to the rules and others in the class (students and teachers).


This. I don't care what you think the reason is your kid threw up. There is always the chance they have a stomach virus or the flu. Follow the rules which are there to protect everybody.

Exactly. You don’t get to dismiss your child’s illness as “not contagious” and send them to school. Sick children actually DON’T need to be in school, and in fact should never be. If your child is sick then you are responsible for keeping them home, at whatever cost to you. That’s how being a parent works.
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2020 15:31     Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teachers- we need to be back at work. Parents- you need to help us fight for cleaning & class sizes. Without it- we’ll get shut down again. Parents- you've also gotta understand that DC still hasn’t given us a definition of what hybrid looks like. Covid kiddo care is hard to find & we find need a running head start.
We miss your students. We love our jobs.
We can make this work.


Yes we can. Parents, please reach out to DCPS and demand details and guarantees of the protocols and protections they claim they will provide!

Also- under the current directives from DCPS of we go back to work & catch Covid- from being back & have to quarantine for 2 weeks well have to burn our leave. This can easily be remedied. Many of us are willing to bump up against the risks, because they are minimal for healthy folks- but don’t then penalize us for coming back to work.
Dcps can do this right. But it’s going to take a lore more thought & accountability than that awful document they sent out last week


I thought the FFCRA gives two weeks paid leave if a person has coronavirus. From the DOL site: Two weeks (up to 80 hours) of paid sick leave at the employee’s regular rate of pay where the employee is unable to work because the employee is quarantined (pursuant to Federal, State, or local government order or advice of a health care provider), and/or experiencing COVID-19 symptoms and seeking a medical diagnosis
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2020 15:19     Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teachers- we need to be back at work. Parents- you need to help us fight for cleaning & class sizes. Without it- we’ll get shut down again. Parents- you've also gotta understand that DC still hasn’t given us a definition of what hybrid looks like. Covid kiddo care is hard to find & we find need a running head start.
We miss your students. We love our jobs.
We can make this work.


Yes we can. Parents, please reach out to DCPS and demand details and guarantees of the protocols and protections they claim they will provide!

Also- under the current directives from DCPS of we go back to work & catch Covid- from being back & have to quarantine for 2 weeks well have to burn our leave. This can easily be remedied. Many of us are willing to bump up against the risks, because they are minimal for healthy folks- but don’t then penalize us for coming back to work.
Dcps can do this right. But it’s going to take a lore more thought & accountability than that awful document they sent out last week
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2020 14:54     Subject: DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance

*have not half
Anonymous
Post 07/03/2020 14:54     Subject: Re:DCPS Employee Return to In Person Work Guidance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some child care centers never closed during the lockdown. The YMCA has taken care of 40,000 children of essential workers since March. Guess how many coronavirus outbreaks they've had.

Zero.

From NPR:


https://www.npr.org/2020/06/24/882316641/what-parents-can-learn-from-child-care-centers-that-stayed-open-during-lockdowns



This


It’s because kids are the least likely to get and to spread the virus.