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Yes and I hope that MD state makes Montgomery County pay for most of that $250M charge since the majority of those cost overruns were from the NIMBYs who tried to halt the project so that a train wouldn't go through their back yards. The state should take $200M out of the county budget next year when they apportion the tax money.

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Anonymous wrote:That project is cursed.

The project is mostly cursed by well-funded, well-connected literal NIMBYs.

Yes and I hope that MD state makes Montgomery County pay for most of that $250M charge since the majority of those cost overruns were from the NIMBYs who tried to halt the project so that a train wouldn't go through their back yards. The state should take $200M out of the county budget next year when they apportion the tax money.

That's ridiculous. Montgomery County government and Montgomery County taxpayers are not responsible for the actions of some Chevy Chase NIMBYs, the Town of Chevy Chase, and the Columbia Country Club.

Then Montgomery County can take the money out of money that the county will apportion to Chevy Chase and public projects in Chevy Chase. The state needs to pass the costs down to the people who caused the problems and cost the state the money and that is how they pass the costs down.

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Anonymous wrote:That project is cursed.

The project is mostly cursed by well-funded, well-connected literal NIMBYs.

Yes and I hope that MD state makes Montgomery County pay for most of that $250M charge since the majority of those cost overruns were from the NIMBYs who tried to halt the project so that a train wouldn't go through their back yards. The state should take $200M out of the county budget next year when they apportion the tax money.

That's ridiculous. Montgomery County government and Montgomery County taxpayers are not responsible for the actions of some Chevy Chase NIMBYs, the Town of Chevy Chase, and the Columbia Country Club.

Then Montgomery County can take the money out of money that the county will apportion to Chevy Chase and public projects in Chevy Chase. The state needs to pass the costs down to the people who caused the problems and cost the state the money and that is how they pass the costs down.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That project is cursed.

The project is mostly cursed by well-funded, well-connected literal NIMBYs.

Yes and I hope that MD state makes Montgomery County pay for most of that $250M charge since the majority of those cost overruns were from the NIMBYs who tried to halt the project so that a train wouldn't go through their back yards. The state should take $200M out of the county budget next year when they apportion the tax money.

As I understand it, the train isn’t going through anyone’s yard, but next to, on land set aside by the government for rail. The residents tried to build sheds and the like on this land to claim it was theirs but in the end no one was having any of it and they lost.

Slippery slope. Be careful what you wish for. Metro access did Tyson's no favors.

Oh yeah Tysons is just horrible now. You should see what’s happened to the property values there.

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Anonymous wrote:That project is cursed.

The project is mostly cursed by well-funded, well-connected literal NIMBYs.

Yes and I hope that MD state makes Montgomery County pay for most of that $250M charge since the majority of those cost overruns were from the NIMBYs who tried to halt the project so that a train wouldn't go through their back yards. The state should take $200M out of the county budget next year when they apportion the tax money.

That's ridiculous. Montgomery County government and Montgomery County taxpayers are not responsible for the actions of some Chevy Chase NIMBYs, the Town of Chevy Chase, and the Columbia Country Club.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re clearly threatened locally by the construction. Once extirpated from an area, they aren’t likely to return. That makes them threatened.

I’m not a wildlife expert, so that’s a question for the people who understand it better than I.

In any case, the court will have plenty of time to go over all the findings of the survey.

Years, probably.

That's so not the way NEPA works that I don't even have words for it.

Again, I’m not the environmental expert. I just know the results of the survey undertaken, and the four species of local concern that were identified.

There will be plenty of opportunities for the Maryland Department of the Environment to conduct their own studies next year to confirm the results that the survey company we hired found. The courts will surely make time available for them to do so.

I just hope it’s not too late for these poor creatures.

"I just hope it's not too late for these poor creatures." Same could be said of Montgomery County residents' economic prospects after this fiasco...

Uh, I LIVE in MoCo. I pay taxes here, too.

And I didn’t vote for this boondoggle, or anyone who supported it. And I’m doing my best to help shut it down, even though I know it’s wasted my money as a taxpayer.

And the more you fight to shut it down, the more you'll end up paying. The trail lovers have already lost the tunnel that would've gone under Wisconsin Ave.

Wait I'm confused - I thought the people fighting the Purple Line are trail lovers?

http://savethetrail.org/the-benefits/

No the people fighting the Purple Line are privileged Bethesda and Chevy Chase residents whose properties abut the line. They are trying to destroy the project just to prevent a train from running through their backyards. They are very selfish and self-centered people. They bought their properties knowing that these plans were there. Their properties were valued less than similar properties that were further away from the train line and they took that discount. Now they want to stop the line so that their properties will appreciate from NOT being next to a train line and they will take advantage of having prime real estate whenever they decided to sell. For them, they took advantage of the system and now are trying to destroy the original plans.

They will lose, but it will cost the state and counties millions of dollars. I really hope that the counties find a way to penalize the residents that live near the train line for all of the delays and expenses they've caused. They will have deserved it.

It’s probably not totally organic. One of the major goals of the Koch org is to kill public transit projects (for their typical reasons: shrink government to cut taxes on greedy billionaires.)


Also we really really need to fix our zoning codes. NIMBYs shouldn’t be able to block projects like this — and in most other countries, they can’t. Here in the US we sacrifice freedom for all to let individuals object for their own financial interest.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That project is cursed.

The project is mostly cursed by well-funded, well-connected literal NIMBYs.

Yes and I hope that MD state makes Montgomery County pay for most of that $250M charge since the majority of those cost overruns were from the NIMBYs who tried to halt the project so that a train wouldn't go through their back yards. The state should take $200M out of the county budget next year when they apportion the tax money.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re clearly threatened locally by the construction. Once extirpated from an area, they aren’t likely to return. That makes them threatened.

I’m not a wildlife expert, so that’s a question for the people who understand it better than I.

In any case, the court will have plenty of time to go over all the findings of the survey.

Years, probably.

That's so not the way NEPA works that I don't even have words for it.

Again, I’m not the environmental expert. I just know the results of the survey undertaken, and the four species of local concern that were identified.

There will be plenty of opportunities for the Maryland Department of the Environment to conduct their own studies next year to confirm the results that the survey company we hired found. The courts will surely make time available for them to do so.

I just hope it’s not too late for these poor creatures.

"I just hope it's not too late for these poor creatures." Same could be said of Montgomery County residents' economic prospects after this fiasco...

Uh, I LIVE in MoCo. I pay taxes here, too.

And I didn’t vote for this boondoggle, or anyone who supported it. And I’m doing my best to help shut it down, even though I know it’s wasted my money as a taxpayer.

And the more you fight to shut it down, the more you'll end up paying. The trail lovers have already lost the tunnel that would've gone under Wisconsin Ave.

Wait I'm confused - I thought the people fighting the Purple Line are trail lovers?

http://savethetrail.org/the-benefits/

No the people fighting the Purple Line are privileged Bethesda and Chevy Chase residents whose properties abut the line. They are trying to destroy the project just to prevent a train from running through their backyards. They are very selfish and self-centered people. They bought their properties knowing that these plans were there. Their properties were valued less than similar properties that were further away from the train line and they took that discount. Now they want to stop the line so that their properties will appreciate from NOT being next to a train line and they will take advantage of having prime real estate whenever they decided to sell. For them, they took advantage of the system and now are trying to destroy the original plans.

They will lose, but it will cost the state and counties millions of dollars. I really hope that the counties find a way to penalize the residents that live near the train line for all of the delays and expenses they've caused. They will have deserved it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That project is cursed.

The project is mostly cursed by well-funded, well-connected literal NIMBYs.

Yes and I hope that MD state makes Montgomery County pay for most of that $250M charge since the majority of those cost overruns were from the NIMBYs who tried to halt the project so that a train wouldn't go through their back yards. The state should take $200M out of the county budget next year when they apportion the tax money.

As I understand it, the train isn’t going through anyone’s yard, but next to, on land set aside by the government for rail. The residents tried to build sheds and the like on this land to claim it was theirs but in the end no one was having any of it and they lost.

Slippery slope. Be careful what you wish for. Metro access did Tyson's no favors.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That project is cursed.

The project is mostly cursed by well-funded, well-connected literal NIMBYs.

Yes and I hope that MD state makes Montgomery County pay for most of that $250M charge since the majority of those cost overruns were from the NIMBYs who tried to halt the project so that a train wouldn't go through their back yards. The state should take $200M out of the county budget next year when they apportion the tax money.

As I understand it, the train isn’t going through anyone’s yard, but next to, on land set aside by the government for rail. The residents tried to build sheds and the like on this land to claim it was theirs but in the end no one was having any of it and they lost.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That project is cursed.

The project is mostly cursed by well-funded, well-connected literal NIMBYs.

Yes and I hope that MD state makes Montgomery County pay for most of that $250M charge since the majority of those cost overruns were from the NIMBYs who tried to halt the project so that a train wouldn't go through their back yards. The state should take $200M out of the county budget next year when they apportion the tax money.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That project is cursed.

The project is mostly cursed by well-funded, well-connected literal NIMBYs.

Anonymous wrote:That project is cursed.