Anonymous
Post 07/25/2019 10:38     Subject: Re:Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Years ago, I went to a boundary meeting held by SB members when a new school was being built in Western Fairfax. People were heated--no one wanted to be moved. Many people on this forum when be surprised to know that even people whose kids went to lower performing schools did not want to be redistricted. It was enlightening.

The friend who went with me commented later that it was good to see that no matter where the kids went to school, the parents wanted their neighborhoods to stay put.

I suspect the same is true of most people today. I'd bet that the people in the lower SES part of the McLean boundary also don't wish to be redistricted to Langley. It is ironic that all these people who accuse others of being racist are happy to think that the lower income people don't care where they go to school.


Anonymous
Post 07/25/2019 10:30     Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Confused - honest question...
Why would people be sent out of Langley if it is under capacity? Or does Langley not want people from mcclean coming to their school? I am not understanding what the issue is.


Langley parents don't care if anyone gets redistricted to Langley. Langley parents do care if their kids get redistricted to a lower-performing school, in part because of the academics and in part because of property values.
Anonymous
Post 07/25/2019 10:28     Subject: Re:Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
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Furthermore, I do think PROXIMITY should matter when doing school zoning. The schools we are zoned to are also the closest ones to our house, so I would also be annoyed for that reason if they changed.


+1


Which is why the western GF people should go to Herndon HS and shut up about it.


In that case, then maybe they should close Langley? Because only a small number of homes are closer to Langley than other schools, especially with McLean HS in existence.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2019 20:33     Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Confused - honest question...
Why would people be sent out of Langley if it is under capacity? Or does Langley not want people from mcclean coming to their school? I am not understanding what the issue is.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2019 19:21     Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
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Anonymous wrote:Time to resurrect this thread. Remind me again why Great Falls residents seem to think they are entitled to never experience a school boundary change?


Because they are currently in a school with excess capacity? And, the school to which you wish to move them is full?


People are really angry at Langley and Great Falls for existing.


Not all of them. But some of them are so freaking ugly. Men yelling at School Board members to wrap up a discussion. And like when staff refers to growth in the county and some shrill from Great Falls yells out “that’s because you let in all the illegals.”

It seems like a toxic group of people, so I assume their kids have serious issues, too.


Best keep them away from everyone else then.


Have you ever gone through a redistricting? My neighborhood has. When you have a kid in high school and another in middle school, it is quite upsetting. And, FWIW, the SB members don't always level with you. It is extremely disruptive for neighborhoods because you are being pulled out of your "community" because that is what a high school is.

Remember when Kathy Smith was running for Supervisor and was attacked by a constituent in her district? The woman was still angry because of the boundary adjustment. (Kathy Smith was the worst about being honest with people.) And, for those of you who think this is about race and money--the mom was upset because her kids were moved from Chantilly to Oakton. That neighborhood had been assigned to Chantilly since the houses were built. And, it was only about two miles (at most) from Chantilly. But, to justify the South Lakes redistricting, they had to move kids from Chantilly. (Oakton was losing kids to South Lakes.) Of the Chantilly neighborhoods, it was the closest to Oakton--but still miles and miles away. Kind of like Great Falls and Herndon, Langley. Closer to one school but sent to another because it was the most logical one to go there because the school would be too small otherwise.


I am merely agreeing that Langley parents are terrible people whose children are terrible as well, and drawing the logical conclusion that the terribleness needs to be confined within current boundaries .
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2019 19:05     Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Time to resurrect this thread. Remind me again why Great Falls residents seem to think they are entitled to never experience a school boundary change?


Because they are currently in a school with excess capacity? And, the school to which you wish to move them is full?


People are really angry at Langley and Great Falls for existing.


Not all of them. But some of them are so freaking ugly. Men yelling at School Board members to wrap up a discussion. And like when staff refers to growth in the county and some shrill from Great Falls yells out “that’s because you let in all the illegals.”

It seems like a toxic group of people, so I assume their kids have serious issues, too.


Best keep them away from everyone else then.


Have you ever gone through a redistricting? My neighborhood has. When you have a kid in high school and another in middle school, it is quite upsetting. And, FWIW, the SB members don't always level with you. It is extremely disruptive for neighborhoods because you are being pulled out of your "community" because that is what a high school is.

Remember when Kathy Smith was running for Supervisor and was attacked by a constituent in her district? The woman was still angry because of the boundary adjustment. (Kathy Smith was the worst about being honest with people.) And, for those of you who think this is about race and money--the mom was upset because her kids were moved from Chantilly to Oakton. That neighborhood had been assigned to Chantilly since the houses were built. And, it was only about two miles (at most) from Chantilly. But, to justify the South Lakes redistricting, they had to move kids from Chantilly. (Oakton was losing kids to South Lakes.) Of the Chantilly neighborhoods, it was the closest to Oakton--but still miles and miles away. Kind of like Great Falls and Herndon, Langley. Closer to one school but sent to another because it was the most logical one to go there because the school would be too small otherwise.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2019 18:48     Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Time to resurrect this thread. Remind me again why Great Falls residents seem to think they are entitled to never experience a school boundary change?


Because they are currently in a school with excess capacity? And, the school to which you wish to move them is full?


People are really angry at Langley and Great Falls for existing.


Not all of them. But some of them are so freaking ugly. Men yelling at School Board members to wrap up a discussion. And like when staff refers to growth in the county and some shrill from Great Falls yells out “that’s because you let in all the illegals.”

It seems like a toxic group of people, so I assume their kids have serious issues, too.


Best keep them away from everyone else then.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2019 18:46     Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Time to resurrect this thread. Remind me again why Great Falls residents seem to think they are entitled to never experience a school boundary change?


Because they are currently in a school with excess capacity? And, the school to which you wish to move them is full?


People are really angry at Langley and Great Falls for existing.


Not all of them. But some of them are so freaking ugly. Men yelling at School Board members to wrap up a discussion. And like when staff refers to growth in the county and some shrill from Great Falls yells out “that’s because you let in all the illegals.”

It seems like a toxic group of people, so I assume their kids have serious issues, too.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2019 16:49     Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Time to resurrect this thread. Remind me again why Great Falls residents seem to think they are entitled to never experience a school boundary change?


Because they are currently in a school with excess capacity? And, the school to which you wish to move them is full?


People are really angry at Langley and Great Falls for existing.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2019 16:48     Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Time to resurrect this thread. Remind me again why Great Falls residents seem to think they are entitled to never experience a school boundary change?


Remind me why people not from Great Falls are upset that residents have the nerve to have an opinion about a possible boundary change?

Is there some evidence that masses of GF residents have marched around NOVA telling other neighborhoods not to advocate for or oppose particular boundary adjustments, that only GF should have a voice?

Anonymous
Post 07/23/2019 16:43     Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Time to resurrect this thread. Remind me again why Great Falls residents seem to think they are entitled to never experience a school boundary change?


Because they are currently in a school with excess capacity? And, the school to which you wish to move them is full?
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2019 16:36     Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Time to resurrect this thread. Remind me again why Great Falls residents seem to think they are entitled to never experience a school boundary change?
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2019 12:28     Subject: Re:Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
There is also Justice/Annandale and no clear explanation as to why Madison but not other schools is being favored with an addition.

Anonymous
Post 05/30/2019 11:04     Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
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Anonymous wrote:If everyone is completely fine with the 16+ mile bus rides in Langley district, they should be more than fine bussing in some high FARM apartment complexes from Herndon to Langley high school.


Langley can take some apartment complexes zoned to crowded McLean and Marshall that are a lot closer than 16 miles from the school.


"Whenever" is not happening.

Virginia Law https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title22.1/chapter7/section22.1-79/

[i]§ 22.1-79. Powers and duties.
A school board shall:
1. See that the school laws are properly explained, enforced and observed;
2. Secure, by visitation or otherwise, as full information as possible about the conduct of the public schools in the school division and take care that they are conducted according to law and with the utmost efficiency;
3. Care for, manage and control the property of the school division and provide for the erecting, furnishing, equipping, and noninstructional operating of necessary school buildings and appurtenances and the maintenance thereof by purchase, lease, or other contracts;
4. Provide for the consolidation of schools or redistricting of school boundaries or adopt pupil assignment plans [b]whenever such procedure will contribute to the efficiency of the school division[/b];

FCPS staff Supt Brabrand, Chief Operating Officer Smith, Asst Supt for Facilities and Transportation Platenburg are in a moratorium on boundary processes other than what was voted on - p 46 of the CIP. Years of negative impact on operating efficiency by this school board while it discusses /revises it's Regulation 8130 on boundaries, school and program assignment?

Examples of operating inefficiency:
Mount Vernon/West Potomac.
Sandburg 105% [feeds West Potomac]/Whitman 85%[feeds Mount Vernon] is in the Sandburg attendance area
Langley/Marshall/Mclean.

https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BA3TCA51759A/$file/Attachment%20Item%20285.pdf

Is BM capacity[bricks and mortar] versus BM+M capacity [bricks and mortar plus modulars] equitable under OneFairfax?






Anonymous
Post 05/30/2019 08:31     Subject: Re:Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
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Anonymous wrote:The SB's job is not to build affordable housing. That belongs to the supervisors.
The SB's job is to educate the children in the most effective way with the resources they are given. We can talk all day about building affordable housing,but that is the future--just as building a new high school.

For now, the boundaries should reflect in this order:
proximity/commute time
community (keeping feeder schools together as much as possible)
SES should be considered when possible--but not to require busing past other communities


Obviously, schools like Langley which is at the edge of the county will have strange boundaries. There is no way to draw a circle around Langley--because then you are in Arlington. That is just a fact.


I mostly agree with this post, although I can’t figure out if you omitted capacity in your list or if it is implied in your resources comment and you felt it unnecessary to list? Because capacity needs to be utilize Id as much as possible as the rest of the factors are considered. Obviously long bus rides are NOT the ideal way to deal with school boundary issues.


PP here. I just assumed that consideration of capacity is a given.


Big assumption given some of the clueless School Board members.