Anonymous wrote:Since I know many of you live and breathe the almighty US News rankings, you all should look at undergrad teaching rankings. Michigan is ranked #13 in the nation for undergraduate teaching. Cornell? #61. Oof.

Ok, then choose Elon over Harvard or Yale or MIT. The number of people go by that ranking - zero.
Why do such rankings even exist?

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Anonymous wrote:The odd thing here is that the schools and their atmospheres are very different. It really should be based on where the kid feels most comfortable and where the academic opportunities provide a decent possible fit (provided the kid is not looking for some very specific program or has scholarship possibilities, etc. . . that would lead to a different analysis).

Kids rejected from Cornell handle Ann Arbor and Charlottesville just fine.

But everyone at Ithaca would rather be at one of the other Ivy cities so we will call that a push.

Since I know many of you live and breathe the almighty US News rankings, you all should look at undergrad teaching rankings. Michigan is ranked #13 in the nation for undergraduate teaching. Cornell? #61. Oof.

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Anonymous wrote:Fake thread. This isn't a real decision. Nobody with a brain chooses public u over an Ivy.

Except the donut hole families that’s not prepared to pay $70,000+ per year for 4 years.

This is a baseless myth spread by tailgate state dimwits on message boards. The avg Cornell debt load is less than Michigan's according to US Gov Scorecard. And Cornell grads make a lot more money! You sorry dimwits need to just stop.

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?170976-University-of-Michigan-Ann-Arbor

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?190415-Cornell-University

Does that include parent HELOC loans?

And what about average out-of-pocket expenses?

Does Michigan offer merit aid?

Yes, we know many top schools provide great financial aid for low-income folks, but $280,000 per kid is not trivial for the vast majority of middle & higher-income families.

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Anonymous wrote:The odd thing here is that the schools and their atmospheres are very different. It really should be based on where the kid feels most comfortable and where the academic opportunities provide a decent possible fit (provided the kid is not looking for some very specific program or has scholarship possibilities, etc. . . that would lead to a different analysis).

Kids rejected from Cornell handle Ann Arbor and Charlottesville just fine.

Good lord, you do luv you some Cornell. Tenacious little bear.

Anonymous wrote:The odd thing here is that the schools and their atmospheres are very different. It really should be based on where the kid feels most comfortable and where the academic opportunities provide a decent possible fit (provided the kid is not looking for some very specific program or has scholarship possibilities, etc. . . that would lead to a different analysis).

Kids rejected from Cornell handle Ann Arbor and Charlottesville just fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Fake thread. This isn't a real decision. Nobody with a brain chooses public u over an Ivy.

Except the donut hole families that’s not prepared to pay $70,000+ per year for 4 years.

This is a baseless myth spread by tailgate state dimwits on message boards. The avg Cornell debt load is less than Michigan's according to US Gov Scorecard. And Cornell grads make a lot more money! You sorry dimwits need to just stop.

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?170976-University-of-Michigan-Ann-Arbor

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?190415-Cornell-University

The odd thing here is that the schools and their atmospheres are very different. It really should be based on where the kid feels most comfortable and where the academic opportunities provide a decent possible fit (provided the kid is not looking for some very specific program or has scholarship possibilities, etc. . . that would lead to a different analysis).

Anonymous wrote:Fake thread. This isn't a real decision. Nobody with a brain chooses public u over an Ivy.

Except the donut hole families that’s not prepared to pay $70,000+ per year for 4 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Fake thread. This isn't a real decision. Nobody with a brain chooses public u over an Ivy.

Especially if you are from the East Coast (mid-Atlantic). The price tag isn't that different between the two. And the driving time is less for Cornell. Its an Ivy and attracts more geographic diversity and better prepared cohorts.

When deciding between a school ranked 17 and a school ranked 25, you go where your heart and your pocketbook take you.

And you wonder why the people in flyover country hate their Ivy-"educated" shithead masters in DCUM-land?

Anonymous wrote:Fake thread. This isn't a real decision. Nobody with a brain chooses public u over an Ivy.

Especially if you are from the East Coast (mid-Atlantic). The price tag isn't that different between the two. And the driving time is less for Cornell. Its an Ivy and attracts more geographic diversity and better prepared cohorts.

Fake thread. This isn't a real decision. Nobody with a brain chooses public u over an Ivy.

Michigan and Cornell both are great in a wide range of majors. In fact, Michigan is ranked 6th and Cornell ranked 9th in Undergraduate Engineering. No Ivy ranked ahead of Cornell in Engineering. For example, the vaunted Harvard is ranked 25th, along with Penn State University and University of Maryland.

So folks, it depends on what major one likes to pursue. I wouldn't go to Harvard for Undergrad Engineering if I get admission offer from MIT, the God of Engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:You have to question the capacity of anyone who genuinely turns down a more competitive, more elite, resource-rich college for the 40,000-student rah-rah diploma mill full of slackers who paint their faces for sport ball matches. Such a decision would be a MAJOR personality red flag at the very least.

Cornell is great. Michigan is great. No red flags if someone gets into both and has the choice and chooses one over the other.

+1. All this hue and cry over two schools that are ranked 17 and 25 respectively.

25 could be Cornell - easily. It’s Soft Ivy that overlaps with Almost Ivies.

If someone thinks it is the right fit for them, and they are part of the single digits to be admitted, who are you to rain on that parade?

OP’s kid chose M over Cornell. Who are you to say she’s wrong about her choice?

Your reading comprehension skills are atrocious.

Waaah!