Anonymous
03/31/2019 16:09
Subject: CES Decision Letters
Right, so the national norms should theoretically show decently high percentages for everyone tested (50th percentile or above at least.)
Obviously in this high performing pool the MCPS percentile score should range from 1 percentile to 99th percentile but as PP pointed out it's unclear whether they would actually report a 1 percentile score.
Obviously in this high performing pool the MCPS percentile score should range from 1 percentile to 99th percentile but as PP pointed out it's unclear whether they would actually report a 1 percentile score.
Anonymous
03/31/2019 15:02
Subject: CES Decision Letters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With universal screening, does it mean someone will receive a letter with scores in single digit (e.g. 5% National, 1% MCPS)?
That one is really hurting.....
Can someone from DCUM post this if they receive scores like these?
No universal screening, only a portion of potentially high scorers took the test.
Yes, and only the students who took the test are included in the MCPS percentile... and the students in a school with "similar" socio-economic stats. So, the MCPS group is much smaller and is a "selective" group to begin with, which explains why MCPS percentiles are typically lower than national where it includes all students of the same age/grade who took the same test at a similar time. Many systems use the test system wide with all students, so not just a selected group of high performing students.
No. It is universal screening unless opted out by parents. the whole point is to cast a wider net. So there are more students taking the test and they can catch more high potential students. At the same time, they will catch more lower potential students who maybe 5% National,
2% MCPS
All Grade 3 students will be reviewed for the CES process and notified in early February 2019. At that time, parents will have the option to decline or request consideration.
Yes, but the universal review was the letter, not the actual test.
+1
The universal review is of the existing data, they review all of that and invite those who meet a certain threshold to test - or be "further considered", the universal screening in third grade does not test everyone, so everyone is not included in the MCPS percentiles, only those who tested, who are presumably those the system thought or whose parents felt had a shot at attending a CES.
Anonymous
03/31/2019 14:12
Subject: CES Decision Letters
Yeah, there probably wasn't anybody tested who would score a 5% on the national norm, but if they took all the scores and turned them into local norms using the full scale of 0-100% there have to be some low local scores. I wonder if they reported single digits to anyone, or if they had a floor on how low they reported (like <20% or something like that).
Anonymous
03/31/2019 14:05
Subject: CES Decision Letters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With universal screening, does it mean someone will receive a letter with scores in single digit (e.g. 5% National, 1% MCPS)?
That one is really hurting.....
Can someone from DCUM post this if they receive scores like these?
No universal screening, only a portion of potentially high scorers took the test.
Yes, and only the students who took the test are included in the MCPS percentile... and the students in a school with "similar" socio-economic stats. So, the MCPS group is much smaller and is a "selective" group to begin with, which explains why MCPS percentiles are typically lower than national where it includes all students of the same age/grade who took the same test at a similar time. Many systems use the test system wide with all students, so not just a selected group of high performing students.
No. It is universal screening unless opted out by parents. the whole point is to cast a wider net. So there are more students taking the test and they can catch more high potential students. At the same time, they will catch more lower potential students who maybe 5% National,
2% MCPS
All Grade 3 students will be reviewed for the CES process and notified in early February 2019. At that time, parents will have the option to decline or request consideration.
Yes, but the universal review was the letter, not the actual test.
Anonymous
03/31/2019 13:35
Subject: CES Decision Letters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With universal screening, does it mean someone will receive a letter with scores in single digit (e.g. 5% National, 1% MCPS)?
That one is really hurting.....
Can someone from DCUM post this if they receive scores like these?
No universal screening, only a portion of potentially high scorers took the test.
Yes, and only the students who took the test are included in the MCPS percentile... and the students in a school with "similar" socio-economic stats. So, the MCPS group is much smaller and is a "selective" group to begin with, which explains why MCPS percentiles are typically lower than national where it includes all students of the same age/grade who took the same test at a similar time. Many systems use the test system wide with all students, so not just a selected group of high performing students.
No. It is universal screening unless opted out by parents. the whole point is to cast a wider net. So there are more students taking the test and they can catch more high potential students. At the same time, they will catch more lower potential students who maybe 5% National,
2% MCPS
All Grade 3 students will be reviewed for the CES process and notified in early February 2019. At that time, parents will have the option to decline or request consideration.
Anonymous
03/31/2019 12:48
Subject: CES Decision Letters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With universal screening, does it mean someone will receive a letter with scores in single digit (e.g. 5% National, 1% MCPS)?
That one is really hurting.....
Can someone from DCUM post this if they receive scores like these?
No universal screening, only a portion of potentially high scorers took the test.
Yes, and only the students who took the test are included in the MCPS percentile... and the students in a school with "similar" socio-economic stats. So, the MCPS group is much smaller and is a "selective" group to begin with, which explains why MCPS percentiles are typically lower than national where it includes all students of the same age/grade who took the same test at a similar time. Many systems use the test system wide with all students, so not just a selected group of high performing students.
Anonymous
03/31/2019 10:56
Subject: CES Decision Letters
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone received rejection letters? We didn’t get a letter but a friend in the same zip code got a waitlist. Our eldest went to CES so we’re really hoping the youngest can too.
This is the third ask in this thread and no one has reported a rejection. I assume ours is coming this week.
Anonymous
03/31/2019 09:48
Subject: CES Decision Letters
Has anyone received rejection letters? We didn’t get a letter but a friend in the same zip code got a waitlist. Our eldest went to CES so we’re really hoping the youngest can too.
Anonymous
03/31/2019 07:02
Subject: CES Decision Letters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Waitlisted to Cold Spring, 98% MCPS, 99% National, 20854
[Post New]03/30/2019 14:25 Subject: Re:CES Decision Letters [Up]
Anonymous
Acceptance. 20850. Cold Spring. 99th National, 94th MCPS.
Remember that the test is only one factor in admission, and the posts here don't tell you about the others: Grade 3 report card, percentile ranks for the MAP- R and MAP-M, student services (ESOL, 504, FARMS), the non-scored student questionnaire, and the home school cohort. I feel like the test scores here are useful in understanding the type of score needed as a threshold, but there's more to the picture than just the score.
Anonymous
03/31/2019 05:33
Subject: CES Decision Letters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Waitlisted to Cold Spring, 98% MCPS, 99% National, 20854
[Post New]03/30/2019 14:25 Subject: Re:CES Decision Letters [Up]
Anonymous
Acceptance. 20850. Cold Spring. 99th National, 94th MCPS.
They do try to balance out the gender. In my kid's year, there were 60% boys versus 40% girls so they might be trying to balance it out.
Anonymous
03/30/2019 23:51
Subject: CES Decision Letters
Anonymous wrote:Waitlisted to Cold Spring, 98% MCPS, 99% National, 20854
[Post New]03/30/2019 14:25 Subject: Re:CES Decision Letters [Up]
Anonymous
Acceptance. 20850. Cold Spring. 99th National, 94th MCPS.
Anonymous
03/30/2019 23:47
Subject: CES Decision Letters
Anonymous wrote:This seems a little weird.
Anonymous wrote:Waitlisted to Cold Spring, 98% MCPS, 99% National, 20854
Overheard that lots of 99% kids feeding Cold Spring CES got waitlisted last year.
Anonymous
03/30/2019 22:46
Subject: CES Decision Letters
Accepted to Barnsley: 98/94 percent.
Anonymous
03/30/2019 22:19
Subject: Re:CES Decision Letters
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Acceptance at Oakview, 95% for both MCPS and National.
Sounds like only acceptances were received today?
Notified today. Waitlisted. Is everyone that doesn’t get in waitlisted?
The FAQ says the waitlist is typically 20-35 for each center. Last year there was a mistake with the letters and everybody who wasn't accepted initially got waitlist letters. Presumably they triple-checked that this year.
Anonymous
03/30/2019 22:01
Subject: CES Decision Letters
Anonymous wrote:Did anyone receive rejections today? Also, are there any similarities - like last name is A or Z? I hate the USPS wild card factor.
Our child's last name is K, we live in 20814, and received an acceptance today.