Poet Clint Smith nailed how absolutely unbelievable and unjust this is on Twitter today:

https://twitter.com/ClintSmithIII/status/1105502435886407682

Wow! US is not better than any third world corrupt country! And additionally it has guns in the hands of deranged people!!

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone donate to a fake charity to get their kids into college when it's legal to just donate to the university to get your kids in?

Did you see the wire tap..,.

"okay, so, who we are-- what we do is we help the wealthiest families in the U.S. get their kids into school …. Every year there are-- is a group of families, especially where I am right now in the Bay Area, Palo Alto, I just flew in. That they want guarantees, they want this thing done. They don’t want to be messing around with this thing. And so they want in at certain schools. So I did 761 what I would call, “side doors.” There is a front door which means you get in on your own. The back door is through institutional advancement, which is ten times as much money. And I’ve created this side door in. Because the back door, when you go through institutional advancement, as you know, everybody’s got a friend of a friend, who knows somebody who knows somebody but there’s no guarantee, they’re just gonna give you a second look. My families want a guarantee. So, if you said to me ‘here’s our grades, here’s our scores, here’s our ability, and we want to go to X school’ and you give me one or two schools, and then I’ll go after those schools and try to get a guarantee done. So that, by the time, the summer of her senior year, before her senior year, hopefully we can have this thing done, so that in the fall, before December 15th, you already knows she’s in. Done. And you make a financial commitment. It depends on what school you want, may determine how much that actually is. But that’s kind of how the the side and back door work. "

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Anonymous wrote:This is the downside of holistic admissions. Too easy to manipulate the results.

Yet another reason why schools should no longer be allowed to offer preferences or scholarships to athletes.

It wasn't just athleticism. These parents paid people to take the SAT and ACTs in place of their kids and submit those scores in the admissions packet.

They'll get them on all counts of fraud.

Look, colleges have been known to drop students if they do something inappropriate during their senior year of High School. This is outright fraud on the part of the students and their families. The students know they didn't take the SAT or ACT and yet mysteriously got a great score; the students know they don't play certain sports and yet are getting accepted due to their sports performance.

I scanned the 200-page complaint. It looks like at least some of the students did take the SAT and /or ACT, just with accommodations at a particular testing center. One parent was warning Key to not make the corrected score too high or the kid wouldn’t believe it. Obviously the athletes who weren’t athletes are a different case, but from what I read it seems possible that the kids didn’t know.

Lori Loughlin’s kids definitely knew. They even posed on an ERG machine to help their application as crew recruits. LOL

Erg is short for ergometer. It's not an acronym.

Anonymous wrote:It seems the Asians are the only ones who are actually relying on merit to get into elite colleges.

Yea... Asians don't cheat.

Why would anyone donate to a fake charity to get their kids into college when it's legal to just donate to the university to get your kids in?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like there's a real viral marketing opportunity for ASU here. Hope they take advantage of it.

Arizona State?

I am not following.

The whole reason Lori Laughlin did this was so her daughter could go somewhere that wasn't ASU.

But was that where she was initially supposed to go, or are you just bashing ASU for no reason? That college does a lot of good for their instate students. President made it bigger and adds online online opportunities to equal over 80K students. little to no-one gets rejected in-state. Smart kids get full rides. He stated he wanted everyone an opportunity to get educated. I rather my kid go to a school like that, than an uptight rich white school these parents bribed for.

Sorry, just not a fan of college bashing

This isn't college bashing. The person was referencing the leaked conversation where Lori Laughlin said she wanted her daughter to go somewhere better than ASU.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe this will bring about some change. It’s equally unfair for someone like Jared Kushner to have gotten into Harvard because his parents gave a massive (also tax deductible) donation. In my opinion, schools that receive federal funding should not be allowed to accept bribes to admit kids but it happens all the time.

Are you kidding.. those rich people in power will never let this happen. Trump also got into UPenn with his father's "donation".

And Trump bought Tiffany, Junior and Ivanka’s way into Penn (the latter two were qtransfers from Georgetown). However, he couldn’t buy Eric’s way into Penn—he stayed at Georgetown.

Anonymous wrote:I sort of feel bad for the kids - in some cases they probably didn't even know this was happening, and now they are screwed.

They didn't know they aren't on the crew team and don't even know how to row? They don't know how they magically got a great SAT or ACT score when they didn't even take the exam?

They may be dumb but they aren't braindead.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the downside of holistic admissions. Too easy to manipulate the results.

Yet another reason why schools should no longer be allowed to offer preferences or scholarships to athletes.

It wasn't just athleticism. These parents paid people to take the SAT and ACTs in place of their kids and submit those scores in the admissions packet.

They'll get them on all counts of fraud.

Look, colleges have been known to drop students if they do something inappropriate during their senior year of High School. This is outright fraud on the part of the students and their families. The students know they didn't take the SAT or ACT and yet mysteriously got a great score; the students know they don't play certain sports and yet are getting accepted due to their sports performance.

I scanned the 200-page complaint. It looks like at least some of the students did take the SAT and /or ACT, just with accommodations at a particular testing center. One parent was warning Key to not make the corrected score too high or the kid wouldn’t believe it. Obviously the athletes who weren’t athletes are a different case, but from what I read it seems possible that the kids didn’t know.

Lori Loughlin’s kids definitely knew. They even posed on an ERG machine to help their application as crew recruits. LOL

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like there's a real viral marketing opportunity for ASU here. Hope they take advantage of it.

Arizona State?

I am not following.

The whole reason Lori Laughlin did this was so her daughter could go somewhere that wasn't ASU.

But was that where she was initially supposed to go, or are you just bashing ASU for no reason? That college does a lot of good for their instate students. President made it bigger and adds online online opportunities to equal over 80K students. little to no-one gets rejected in-state. Smart kids get full rides. He stated he wanted everyone an opportunity to get educated. I rather my kid go to a school like that, than an uptight rich white school these parents bribed for.

Sorry, just not a fan of college bashing

I'm not bashing it. She was literally quoted as saying that she was going through the process of bribing her daughter's way in because she didn't want her to go to ASU.

Here's a link to the names of the (now former) coaches -
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/656-college-admissions-and-testing/a01f87291e255a5f7c80/optimized/full.pdf#page=1

Georgetown's Tennis Coach
USC's women's soccer coaches and senior associate athletic director, water polo coach
UCLA's men's soccer coach
Wake Forest's Women's volleyball coach

Relevant colleges:

Stanford, UCLA, UCSD, USC, Georgetown, UT, Yale, Wake Forest

Fraud perpetrated - kids would request extra time for exams by faking learning disabilities which allowed for the falsification of the exam results

2017 payment of 1.2 million to get a child into Yale by faking soccer qualifications as part of "National Development Team in China"

Parent of UCLA applicant donated over 2000 shares of Facebook stock to get daughter admitted through fraudulent soccer designation

Stanford sailing program used to facilitate fraud

UT's tennis program used to facilitate fraud

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Anonymous wrote:Heh if you have to cheat to get into UCSD that's really lame.

Awesome. Quote of the Year!

Actually it was USD - Univ of San Diego, the private Catholic college - which is even easier to get into than UCSD

AKA the "University of Spoiled Daughters"

DP- Not following...
UCSD has a 34% acceptance rate. That’s quite competitive.

Thanks for ruining college admissions Lori and Felicity taking helicoptering to its highest level. Shame on you parents!

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like there's a real viral marketing opportunity for ASU here. Hope they take advantage of it.

Arizona State?

I am not following.

The whole reason Lori Laughlin did this was so her daughter could go somewhere that wasn't ASU.

But was that where she was initially supposed to go, or are you just bashing ASU for no reason? That college does a lot of good for their instate students. President made it bigger and adds online online opportunities to equal over 80K students. little to no-one gets rejected in-state. Smart kids get full rides. He stated he wanted everyone an opportunity to get educated. I rather my kid go to a school like that, than an uptight rich white school these parents bribed for.

Sorry, just not a fan of college bashing