Anonymous
Post 03/07/2019 22:04     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why hasn't the Trump administration hired more Border Patrol agents and immigration officials? Fiddling while Rome burns seems to be this administration's MO.


Why hasn't Congress passed a bill that would allow for more border barriers to discourage easy entry to our country?

There was $25billion in border security funding that was offered just this past December. Trump turned it down. Instead he opted for about $5bil. Not sure how that helps the border situation.

Exactly. Why is Trump not serious about border security? He seems more interested in using immigration as a wedge issue for the election than in any meaningful actions.

It's all a show for his base. And they think the $5 billion is so much better than the $25 billion in border security.


Does it make any sense to you that Trump didn’t take $25 billion in December and now he’s fighting for $5 billion? Trump didn’t wanted $25 billion because there were many other demands from Democrats that Trump didn’t wanted to give .

In December, Democrats just wanted to give Trump $25b and later same Democrats don’t want to give $5 b ?



They offered the promise of 25 billion, not 25 actual billion. Reagan was fooled. Trump was not.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2019 22:02     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Borders are so 19th century


With this attitude northern VA will look like El Salvador in no time!


It already does in places. And those places are slowly looking very run down.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2019 21:30     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Borders are so 19th century


With this attitude northern VA will look like El Salvador in no time!


It already does, in areas.

True.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2019 21:26     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Borders are so 19th century


With this attitude northern VA will look like El Salvador in no time!


It already does, in areas.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2019 20:55     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The administration can do what Europe started doing in Africa and set up asylum hearing centers in Mexico, so people can be screened without having to enter the US first. It would of course have to involve Mexico's cooperation but it might be more productive than threatening to make them pay for the wall.

Mexico has no incentive to curb the flood of drugs or sex trafficking. Cartels are making Mexican politicians very rich.


Question....

When seeking asylum, isn't it incumbent upon the seeker of asylum to request it in the first country in which he or she arrives?


Did any of you follow the Kirstjen Nielsen hearing with Congress a few days ago? Wow. Scathing. Border Patrol was breaking laws right and left and it was witnessed by members of Congress. Refugees are supposed to go to ports of entry and on getting to the US side, request asylum, and were doing exactly that - and that is 100% legal - yet they were being treated like as if they had illegally snuck in, they were being treated as though they had not requested asylum, et cetera. And people have witnessed it first hand. And let's not even get into all of the other scathing items that came up in that hearing about numerous kids dying in ICE custody, being raped while in ICE custody, et cetera. Truly disgusting. No matter how you feel about the wall, DHS is completely mishandling all of it and frankly Nielsen needs to step down, along with many others in the CBP chain of command.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2019 20:49     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or, jut maybe, it shows how precarious their home country situation is, and how desperate they are to leave, you know, the way your grandparents or great grandparents where when they came to the US?


And there's nothing anyone wants to do to help their home countries deal with the problems, so as to make them more safe and stable so that there would be less people fleeing. The refugees showing up at our border are a symptom, but instead they are treated as the disease, and that approach will never solve anything, because people desperate to flee will continue to do so. It's like there's broken glass on your kitchen floor and you're complaining about how many band-aids you've used and how you need shoes with thicker soles instead of even giving any consideration to sweeping the glass up. Instead we should be looking to help those countries. But we don't even want to, because they are "shitholes" not worthy of further consideration, per brilliant Trump foreign policy.


Uhh did you 2 forget about mexico who wanted to give them residency? They also had the option to travel to closer countries which are just as safe. We have central americas gangs in the US too but then again we also have the almighthy dollar that attracts them. So its greed bringing them here plain and simple.


Nope, that "Mexico offered to take them in" narrative was utter and complete bullshit. Numerous reporters and others tried following up on that and even went with refugees as they tried getting visas and legal asylum in Mexico and saw that they were getting absolutely nowhere with Mexican officials. There were many reports on this, video accounts of their attempts to get papers, et cetera. Mexico was refusing them.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2019 20:46     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why hasn't the Trump administration hired more Border Patrol agents and immigration officials? Fiddling while Rome burns seems to be this administration's MO.


Why hasn't Congress passed a bill that would allow for more border barriers to discourage easy entry to our country?

There was $25billion in border security funding that was offered just this past December. Trump turned it down. Instead he opted for about $5bil. Not sure how that helps the border situation.

Exactly. Why is Trump not serious about border security? He seems more interested in using immigration as a wedge issue for the election than in any meaningful actions.

It's all a show for his base. And they think the $5 billion is so much better than the $25 billion in border security.


Does it make any sense to you that Trump didn’t take $25 billion in December and now he’s fighting for $5 billion? Trump didn’t wanted $25 billion because there were many other demands from Democrats that Trump didn’t wanted to give .

In December, Democrats just wanted to give Trump $25b and later same Democrats don’t want to give $5 b ?



YUP! Trumpian idiocy. He goes for the lose-lose.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2019 20:45     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or, jut maybe, it shows how precarious their home country situation is, and how desperate they are to leave, you know, the way your grandparents or great grandparents where when they came to the US?


And there's nothing anyone wants to do to help their home countries deal with the problems, so as to make them more safe and stable so that there would be less people fleeing. The refugees showing up at our border are a symptom, but instead they are treated as the disease, and that approach will never solve anything, because people desperate to flee will continue to do so. It's like there's broken glass on your kitchen floor and you're complaining about how many band-aids you've used and how you need shoes with thicker soles instead of even giving any consideration to sweeping the glass up. Instead we should be looking to help those countries. But we don't even want to, because they are "shitholes" not worthy of further consideration, per brilliant Trump foreign policy.


I can’t even with the stupidity. Are you aware of how many billions of dollars the U.S. has given to these countries already, and many more billions are pledged for the future (by the Trump administration, btw) to “help them deal with their problems”?? How much good has this done so far?? It’s as if no money was spent at all. Nothing to show for it. And it’s somehow our fault that these countries can’t manage the money that we’ve pissed away on them? Newsflash: their people will continue coming to the border because they believe they will be admitted to this country. And the U.S. will always be attractive to them, no matter how much money we send to their countries, because liberals have made it their mission to let in as many as possible, for some inexplicable reason.


We've given central America pennies compared to Israel. And you "can't even" with the stupidity given we've thrown vastly more money at other countries at the bidding of their lobbyists? Where's your fiscal outrage over that stupidity?

You "can't even?" LMAO! Come on, do you know how stupid that statement looks?
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2019 20:41     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Borders are so 19th century


With this attitude northern VA will look like El Salvador in no time!


and guess who's complaining about Amazon? The post DACA surge in unaccompanied minors released to sponsors [don't have to be legally present] by ORR from October 2013 through September 2018 is a good indicator of destination jurisdictions in the USA. Counties that got 50+ in any fiscal year are shown plus entire states. Top recipients:
1. NY/NJ as a region
2. DMV as a region [4x AZ+NM two border states combined]
3. CA - a mammoth geographic border state
4. TX-a mammoth geographic border state

Comical thing about this thread is I know some Trump voters from a non high impact state who think we should allow them in - not Illinois but Durbin's entire state had 2317 while PG County got 5037, FX County 4680, MOCO 3861, Baltimore City + County 2599. Yes- Baltimore Metropolitan area got more than Durbin's state. All the dialogue about the border and humanitarian aid - what about localities and long term costs including facilties bonds for schools? Operating funds for schools? Dramatic measures like FCPS procurring and retrofitting an office building for rapid capacity?



Yeah take a look at the shithole MoCo schools has become. No thanks. This needs to stop. Maybe once these kids start showing up at Sidwell Friends and Georgetown Prep maybe congress will care. Until then the rest of us schmucks just have to take it.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2019 20:30     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Borders are so 19th century


With this attitude northern VA will look like El Salvador in no time!


and guess who's complaining about Amazon? The post DACA surge in unaccompanied minors released to sponsors [don't have to be legally present] by ORR from October 2013 through September 2018 is a good indicator of destination jurisdictions in the USA. Counties that got 50+ in any fiscal year are shown plus entire states. Top recipients:
1. NY/NJ as a region
2. DMV as a region [4x AZ+NM two border states combined]
3. CA - a mammoth geographic border state
4. TX-a mammoth geographic border state

Comical thing about this thread is I know some Trump voters from a non high impact state who think we should allow them in - not Illinois but Durbin's entire state had 2317 while PG County got 5037, FX County 4680, MOCO 3861, Baltimore City + County 2599. Yes- Baltimore Metropolitan area got more than Durbin's state. All the dialogue about the border and humanitarian aid - what about localities and long term costs including facilties bonds for schools? Operating funds for schools? Dramatic measures like FCPS procurring and retrofitting an office building for rapid capacity?

Anonymous
Post 03/07/2019 19:59     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:Borders are so 19th century


With this attitude northern VA will look like El Salvador in no time!
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2019 19:30     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Funny how Libs were so fine about Obama’s cages.


Yep. Funny how they conveniently forget about that.

Exactly.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2019 19:29     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why hasn't the Trump administration hired more Border Patrol agents and immigration officials? Fiddling while Rome burns seems to be this administration's MO.


Why hasn't Congress passed a bill that would allow for more border barriers to discourage easy entry to our country?

There was $25billion in border security funding that was offered just this past December. Trump turned it down. Instead he opted for about $5bil. Not sure how that helps the border situation.

Exactly. Why is Trump not serious about border security? He seems more interested in using immigration as a wedge issue for the election than in any meaningful actions.

It's all a show for his base. And they think the $5 billion is so much better than the $25 billion in border security.


Does it make any sense to you that Trump didn’t take $25 billion in December and now he’s fighting for $5 billion? Trump didn’t wanted $25 billion because there were many other demands from Democrats that Trump didn’t wanted to give .

In December, Democrats just wanted to give Trump $25b and later same Democrats don’t want to give $5 b ?

Anonymous
Post 03/07/2019 18:19     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Borders are so 19th century
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2019 17:48     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump is one to talk. He has been hiring illegals for years and more keep coming out of the woodwork everyday.


We will never get anywhere if every time one side is presented with facts the response is "but Trump!" And then they ignore literally mountains of data to focus on an anecdote.

Geez. Yes he hired illegal immigrants. Now let's move on to solutions for this crisis of illegal immigration that both liberal leaning, illegal immigration supporting, prominent newspapers have acknowledged.

The hypocrisy is strong with this one.


DP. You mean the common sense is strong with this one. Stop whatabouting and seek solutions.

Stop telling others what to do when your Dear Leader himself is breaking the rules.